Well done George Osborne - stonking budget

[claig]

Tax free Allowance rising to £11000
40% tax threshold rising to £43000
Corporation Tax falling to 19% and then 18%
National Living Wage will reach £9 by 2020, will start at £7.20

If they carry on like this, Labour are finished and poor old UKIP and Farage won't stand a chance of getting a look in. But credit where credit is due - well done Osborne!

Well, walking, they line 'em up, I just hit them out the park.

right back atcha.

It's because they have been conditioned to believe that those human beings are undeserving scroungers.

we aren't loaded as we've paid for private education

Then you're clearly better off that most of the UK, and I would hope you wouldn't be so insensitive to claim otherwise.

Why isn't it illegal under equality law for people to be paid less for the same job because they're younger? I can't even stipulate how much experience someone has when I advertise a job as its discriminatory but I can pay them less if they're under 25?? Madness.

These threads show who the true cunts of MN are, in all their glory. Almost as cunty as IDS's little dance. What a prick.

I actually have no words for the utter contempt people are showing towards others who are less well off. Like Laurie and Fanjo I'm marginally better off but would happily lose that if it would make this budget fairer.

I'm sickened by some of the things I've read on here today.

Holt I mentioned that earlier. I don't get it. I'm at the top of band 2 and on £9.10. So they are essentially saying that from 2020 bottom of band 2 is going to be paid what the top is earning now. More than that if you take band 1 needing to be paid £9 an hour. That's one hell of a pay rise across every single point on every band. Or a complete restructuring of pay

Quite, except everybody under £9 is capped at the 1% a year. So everybody on band 1 and 2 and maybe the bottom of band 3 will have to have a massive hoick in wages and at some point in band 3 it will just stop, so everyone who is getting higher than that due to qualifications/responsibility might as well just say 'fuck it, I'll do a band 1 job'.

I keep thinking they can't have thought it through, then I think what sort of bellend would present it to parliament without thinking it through. Then I think 'oh...'

Ah yeah the old cut your cloth accordingly bollocks. Well when there's fuck all left to fucking cut your fucked ent ya. Ffs.

If they don't like it sell the flat screen TV, unload the crates of booze and walk past the cigarette kiosk.in short Cut your cloth according to what you can afford

You do know that a second hand 'flat screen' i.e. 'less than 20 years old' TV will probably fetch less than £30, don't you? Hardly a substitute for a decent wage and job security.

The same patronising bollocks from so many of you here, Tories won and Tory voters are criticised as having been brain washed now people that are happy about the budget have been "conditioned to believe"
You come to this thread and accuse it of being insensitive to people who are struggling but you stay and do your best to turn it in to another thread like the others that already exist criticising the budget and the Tories.
Why do we have to put others feelings above having a conversation that isn't all doom and gloom?
I left the other thread after several people had started referring to soldiers as cannon fodder, I told them I didn't like it and came here why can't you disagree with what people have said and then leave the thread behind?

I am a socially responsible person I only accept a salary that will be taxed fully at 45% I have refused all equity and any other form of compensation that isn't taxed as highly. I only use the NHS when I need to and I never miss an appointment,i help my friends and neighbours when I can.
I donate a percentage of my salary to charity and match what I spend on anything personal with a charitable donation.
I know I'm lucky to be able to do this and I know I'm not a saint but I would really like a place that I can discuss something that I think is positive without being accused of being a bad person.
Threads like these are always hijacked earlier I saw someone say they liked 1 point of the budget and they immediately got "another right wing poster "

No one here is claiming things are perfect and no one is suffering we just want to talk about how we feel the budget is without being insulted and criticised.

Excellent budget, fair at last to those of us who always miss out. If you want more money - work hard and climb the ladder like the rest of us!

I'll be £80 better off- I don't want or need the extra. I'm much more worried about disabled family members and the kids I teach who are from less privileged backgrounds going out into a world where you aren't considered a full, proper person until you're 25. I came from a fairly deprived working class background and I was a secondary HOD and homeowner by the time I was 25. (Only 3 years ago). For the kids leaving VI form now just 10 years after me I think that will be out of reach.

I am self employed and run my own company, as does DH.

The Small Business tax changes will leave us around £5000 a year worse off.
well they will unless I think and work very hard over the coming months, I should be able to keep the loss down to £2000

Having gone through the details, we are worse off as a household but I consider it to be generally a good budget.

'No one here is claiming things are perfect and no one is suffering we just want to talk about how we feel the budget is without being insulted and criticised.'

I know what you mean but it is impossible because that is the progressive tactic to stifle fredom and insult anyone who disagrees. The good news is there is a slient majority that grows everytime a progressive tries to induce guilt. The Tories won the election because of it and they will win for at least the next 15 years. Labour know it and Liz Kendall knows it, so they are trying to appeal to the silent majority and ignore the guilt-inducing progressives.

In 1969 the "silent majority" thought the Vietnam War was going well and Nixon was a thoroughly stand up guy. That's a strange political catch-phrase to draw on considering what we now know about both Vietnam and Nixon.

Claig, you are doing what they are doing.
You are reducing someone to an opinion and forgetting the humanity that's behind the opinion.
I think we all need to remember that humanity is good, humans want to do good and reducing someone to an opinion or a picture or a quote is frankly stupid.
We all need to have a little more faith in humanity and faith in people, let's not let hysteria and fear trump our connection as a species that inherently wants to succeed and do good things.

Craig is right. The non Conservatives were so sure they had won because they shouted louder. Only Liz Kendal can see that social media dominance does not mean electoral success.

In most of these discussions the Conservative posters give up so the non Conservatives think they've won the argument when the election would indicate otherwise. I suspect the Conservative party love it.

There be sharks in the water. Claig, it's impossible to crush the 'progressives' you name. It may be attempted but there will always be a vocal minority who can see how the silent majority are being conned and exploited and crushed.

Also, the only people stifling freedoms are the ones you praise for lick-arsing the money-business-establishment. Our so called government.

I hear tax avoidance schemes are quite profitable, Talk. And not much chased by the government.

I'm not sure I want to think about how much I'm possibly losing. Not sure how I'm going to even start making it up. Kind of stuck where I am for the moment and can't see an obvious way out.

I have been offered a job tonight, hours to suit on minimum wage. I want to accept it. But who then will look after my husband? How do we cope with him losing his Income Related ESA because I will be earning over £20 a week? I want to better myself, I want to climb back up that ladder but my hands are tied because there are no services left to care for my husband. Just how the fuck do I climb up that ladder to better myself? In the meantime we are losing money that I can ill afford to do without. Basically Im fucked.

But hey the rich get richer so I should just crawl back under my stone, after all the disabled are just an embarrassment to those of you who can look after yourselves. Everyone who voted Tory will have blood on their hands by 5 years time