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Milibrand will be released today! Sensation of the campaign!

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claig · 29/04/2015 06:42

Russell Brand will release the full video of Milibrand today. Fantastic stuff.

Forget Dimbleby, forget Evan Davis and even forget Kay Burley, Russell Brand is the real deal. He is the one we want to watch (apart from Farage).

The trailer shows what we are likely to get - more mockney than in Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels of Monkeys. Miliband looks like he no longer gives a monkeys, he's going flat out for it. His Oxbridge teenage advisers must have told him to watch the "characters" in Albert Square and make sure he drops as many aitches as he can, the public's "gotta" be done up like a kipper. There are more hand movements and "hell yeah" grimaces than Joe Pesci on steroids in Goodfellas, but these fellas ain't good, they're "bloody lively".

Ed is about to explain it to Russell and fortunately Russell stops him short and says let me say it in my own words, that'll be better. Better than predistribution, than predatry capitalism, than endogeneous growth theory? It doesn't get much better than that.

Can't wait for the full 20 minute video to be released. Forget the Labour Party political broadcasts with the usual list of luvvies, this is Russell Brand - a luvvie who still has some street cred - and the Oxford PPE egghead known as Red Ed. Will this finally put the election to bed?

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claig · 05/05/2015 02:51

'Perhaps they're metropolitan establishment elephants?'

No, those are found on the front bench of the Labour Party.

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LumpySpacedPrincess · 05/05/2015 07:07

claig, you attack Oxbridge yet Farage went to Dulwich College (where he was accused of holding racist and fascist views) hardly the local comp. Look at who funds UKIP, it's packed to the rafters with the Etonians you despise.

LumpySpacedPrincess · 05/05/2015 07:19

Farage's schooldays here

This is the man who wants to remove equality laws. Remove. Equality. Laws.

LumpySpacedPrincess · 05/05/2015 07:31

Farage is clever and charismatic and we have seen what men like that are capable of.

Don't be fooled that UKIP are anything but the far right wing branch of the Tory party, they will mop up the votes of disillusioned tories then squeeze them into the same filthy bucket.

JazzAnnNonMouse · 05/05/2015 08:29

Claig have you ever done a political spectrum quiz?
Id be interested to know where you fall.

claig · 05/05/2015 08:35

You have to understand that I don't despise Etonians and I don't despise Oxbridge.

I think that Jacob Rees-Mogg is by far the best MP the Tories have got and he went to Eton and Oxford. He is brilliant and our ruling Oxbridge political class is useless. Why? Because he has the courage to say what he thinks and they are told what to do by teenage advisers, focus groups and Oxbridge advisers from W1A.

"Children of the sun: David Cameron, Nick Clegg and the Conservative party elite "
...
It is appropriate that Eton and Oxford, Westminster and Cambridge should feature in the CVs of Cameron and Clegg because the ancient universities and the leading public schools have played a dominant role in the history of this singular culture, forging an upper middle class from which a much smaller ruling elite could be heavily recruited."

www.theguardian.com/books/2010/oct/02/conservative-party-elites-simon-head

The reason I keep emphasizing Oxbridge and Eton is because I want to make people realise that the leadership is "recruited" from that milieu deliberately by the Establishment in order to follow what they are told by teenage advisers. The brilliant Jacob Rees-Mogg will never be promoted to a leadership position because he says what he thinks and refuses to do as he is told. He is not a safe pair of hands for the Establishment.

Why does it matter? Why not just accept what the teenage advisers from Oxbridge decide for us? Because they are out of touch, they lack common sense, they are in thrall to a groupthink, politically correct, W1A, incompetent mentality that means they need luvvies and celebs to act as intermediaries with the people, they need Eddie Izzard or Steve Coogan or Jo Brand or Russell Brand to talk to us. They have lost over 30% of the people and they are in panic mode. They are holding W1A meetings every day and their Oxbridge teenage whizzkids from think tanks are coming out with ever more stupid policies to try and stem the flow. Now tey want the Estone planted in the garden of Number Ten. It is surreal, like something from Monty Python or W1A. What craziness, what groupthink, what teenage political correctness will they come up with if they ever hold the reins of power?

Why Farage? Because Farage is the nemesis of this W1A clique ffrom Oxbridge. He will restore common sense. As much as the groupthink geeks from Oxbridge are out of touch, they aren't so out of touch that they don't realise the threat to their Edstone folly and their "gotta" folly and their "get livelly" folly that the common sense People's Army and Farage represent. That is why they are terrified of UKIP and need celebs like Russell Brand to try and stop them.

This election is about which direction the country will follow - to W1A or on the road to common sense where the people live.

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claig · 05/05/2015 08:41

'Claig have you ever done a political spectrum quiz?
Id be interested to know where you fall.'

I did do one once. I would probably be a combination of most of them - common sense is what I believe in.

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claig · 05/05/2015 09:18

"He [Jacob Rees-Mogg"] was described by Camilla Long in a Sunday Times profile as "David Cameron’s worst nightmare" during the 2010 general election campaign.[17] At that election Rees-Mogg became the member of parliament for the new North East Somerset constituency with a majority of 4,914.[18] His sister, the journalist Annunziata Rees-Mogg, stood simultaneously in the neighbouring Somerton and Frome, but failed to win her seat by 1,817 votes.[5][19] The Guardian had previously criticised the damage done to the Tory message of social inclusion by the selection of two highly privileged candidates.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Rees-Mogg

I have nothing against privilege. If Jacob Rees-Mogg is politically correct, groupthink Cameron's worst nightmare, then he must be good. I want a meritocracy where the best people rule the country and by best I mean independent, free-thinking, common sense people and they can come from Eton and Oxford as well as Toxteth or Thurrock.

'The Guardian had previously criticised the damage done to the Tory message of social inclusion by the selection of two highly privileged candidates.'

I don't wnat "messages", I don't want spin, i don't want focus groups, I don't want teenage advisers (unless they have lots of common sense), I don't want luvvies, I don't want celebs, I don't want groupthink, I don't want Edstones, I don't want "gottas", I don't want "start getting livelys", all I want is common sense and the best people for the job. That is why I want Farage for PM.

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claig · 05/05/2015 10:53

Here is the left winger Piers Morgan missing the real point about Brand. Brand is not a joke, he is funny. The real joke is the metropolitan elite Establishment, the Oxbridge labour hierarchy, the BBC, the Guardian, the New Statesman and our Oxbridge left wing intelligentsia who thought the people were so stupid that they would fall for the luvvies. The BBC promoted Brand with our taxpayer money, they thought they could stop the People's Army but the polling figures have not budged at all. Farage has said he would like to "cut the BBC to the bone". There is panic in W1A.

"Should we let hypocritical clowns like Brand and Coogan tell us how to vote? Don't make me laugh

"Ché Brand's been exposed as a total fraud, someone whose 'Revolution' was built purely on a plinth of self-publicity designed to make him even more famous and wealthy. And whose own vote, it turns out, can be easily bought with a cheesy grin, a few cliché-d platitudes and a prime time photo-op.

I don't blame Miliband for trotting down to see Brand for an interview that has already been seen by millions of people. That was smart politics, because Brand has a lot of impressionable young followers.

But I hope those impressionable young followers now see their idol for the shallow waste of political and ideological space that he truly is.

Brand's only saving grace is that he's not quite as bad as Steve Coogan.

I used to love Coogan's character Alan Partridge because he lampooned the very two-faced, ludicrous kind of celebrity that he's now become.

“ Like his fellow press-loathing mate Brand, Coogan preaches from the high altar of ethics and morality, whilst privately preferring to wallow in the complete opposite social strata”

I watched his new Labour Party video and literally laughed out loud.

'I'm an ordinary bloke…' he began, which is exactly what Partridge would have said when he means the complete opposite.
...
I don't agree with much that David Cameron ever says about anything. He's always struck me as the worst kind of PR-speaking, slimy creep who will say and do anything for power.

But he was right when he called Russell Brand 'a joke'.

Only the joke's on all of us.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3067485/PIERS-MORGAN-let-hypocritical-clowns-like-Brand-Coogan-tell-vote-Don-t-make-laugh.html

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claig · 05/05/2015 11:16

Who is responsible for the Edstone? Which adviser could come up with such a W1A idea?

The Daily Mail is suggesting it may be the follwoing person

"His speaking up for the hubristic monument is the very least he could have done considering that Miliband’s too-clever-by-half policy director, Torsten Henricson-Bell, has been widely blamed for the idea."

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3068112/ANDREW-PIERCE-stories-spin-doctors-DON-T-want-read.html

I knew it before I even googled him - he is an Oxfor PPE 1st class Grin

They all are, our metropolitan elite. You couldn't make it up. Even the script writers in W1A couldn't make up our political class. The game is too much of a laugh.

"Torsten Henricson Bell, strategist

A former advisor to Alastair Darling, he is ‘terrifyingly bright’ but ‘totally devoid of any politics’, according to one MP. ‘Every shadow cabinet member he sits down with comes away thinking he’s just met an ideological soul mate.’

www.spectator.co.uk/features/9191741/meet-team-miliband/

I don't know about the bright bit, but this W1A stuff is absolutely terrifying. Are we run by clowns from Oxbridge - first class?

"One problem for Miliband is both Henricson Bell and Beales are currently looking for safe seats at the upcoming election. ‘That tells you all you need to know about what they think of Ed’s chances,’ said a shadow cabinet member."

Gawd help us. I can't stand the laughs, it's doing my Ed in.

Vote UKIP, vote People's Army, let's get back to some first class common sense!

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claig · 05/05/2015 11:26

This gets better all the time. This Edstone is straight out of W1A and the Daily Mail while penning serious articles on the matter is having a right laugh.

"Experts said the limestone slab was likely to have cost tens of thousands of pounds, taken several weeks to produce and weigh in excess of one ton.

Steve Walley, managing director of London Stone, said: ‘That will not be cheap. It looks to me like Portland limestone. We’re talking thousands of pounds just for the materials. What’s he going to do with it if he doesn’t get into No 10?’

Ryan Jennings, a stonemason from North-West London, said: ‘You are looking at quite a lot. I would charge £30,000 for that. A limestone slab that big is expensive, and you’ve got a lot of work to do to it.

‘You’ve got to find a competent stone carver to get all the words done properly.

‘There are not a lot of good stonemasons around of that quality, and the best ones charge on a “sky’s the limit” basis.’

Labour aides refused to discuss the cost of the carving, where it is being stored or suggestions that it was the brainchild of one of Mr Miliband’s senior aides, Torsten Bell.

John Rentoul, Tony Blair’s biographer, said: ‘Ed Miliband must have agreed to it. I think it’s the most absurd, embarrassing, childish, silly, patronising, ridiculous gimmick I have ever seen.’

London Mayor Boris Johnson described the monument as ‘some weird Commie slab’.

‘In true totalitarian fashion, he has signed it himself, and appended the red-rose Socialist logo of the Labour Party,’ he said.

‘Let us consign Milibandias and his tombstone to the bafflement of future archaeologists. Let it go down as the last act of a desperate candidate, and the heaviest suicide note in history.’

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3068029/Labour-wasted-tens-thousands-ridiculed-Milistone-Party-leader-defends-monument-plans-Cameron-vows-make-tombstone-Labour.html

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claig · 05/05/2015 11:43

Ed turns up at a stonemason's and asks for a quote for a huge slab of rock that weighs about one ton

Ed: "I say my good man, how much will it cost fo a huge rock weighing about a ton?"

Stonemason: "You're 'aving a laugh, aren't ya?"

Ed: "I most certainly am not. I'm from Oxford, I'll have you know. I've got a PPE. We all have, the entire team I am with today"

Stonemason: "PPE? You better get that seen to. That doesn't sound too good and by the way you're struggling with that bacon sandwich, it looks like you need all the help you can get"

Ed: "I say, can we cut the banter and cut to the chase. What will this rock cost the Labour Party? You gotta do it."

Stonemason: "Phew, um, cost ya, cost ya, bish bosh, loadsamoney"

Ed: "Money is no object, my good man. We're from Oxbridge and were once in charge of the nation's finances. We know how to run an economy and an election campaign. We're PPEs."

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Isitmebut · 05/05/2015 11:50

Claig …. The far right UKIP anti bourgeoisie class warrior, you really are an enigma, with so many political layers you almost remind me of a Russian Doll.

Let’s look at each ‘compartment’, based on both your activities and what you have told the Mumsnet Board since I’ve been posted.

Claig; Through The (Political) Key Hole.

Claig Room 1: An ex Conservative voter (when the party had no commonly perceived class bias?) and avid reader of The Daily Mail.

Claig Room 2: Totally against all of the UK political classes, wealth and privileges, suggesting that Farage was above that, yet if Farage tried to be a Conservative MP 6-times before – one should assume that he is GAGGING to join the ‘Westminster elite’.

Claig Room 3: A supposed far right UKIP voter, with an unswerving admiration for Farage, bordering on a cult obsession - the son of a stockbroker, educated privately and ex City Commodity Dealer whose career was speculating on the price of oil and other commodities.

Claig Room 4: Use any UKIP/Farage comments admiring Russia, or other thread e.g. Ukraine, to take Russia/Putin’s side against the West and diss the EU.

Claig Room 4: A poster that used to write at least 100 posts a day across numerous threads - often using your own opinions, as a platform to post MORE questions/answers - seemingly going for ‘quantity over quality’.

Claig Room 5: No Humour, I have joked with you that you must have had the (humour) by-pass operation, and even called you Comrade or ‘Wolfie’ from the old TV series ‘Citizen Smith’, representing the ‘Tooting Popular Front’ for your similar class rants to his.

Well none of it seemed to add up until I saw the following explaining everything and stitches you up like a U-kipper; Claig’s Home Revealed:

Putin's army of pro-Kremlin bloggers
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/revealed-putins-army-of-prokremlin-bloggers-10138893.html

”Hundreds of workers are paid around £500 a month and required to write at least 135 comments per day - or face immediate dismissal”

”There are teams dedicated to Facebook and other social media. “There are about 40 rooms with about 20 people sitting in each, and each person has their assignments. They write and write all day, and it’s no laughing matter - you can get fired for laughing.”

Based on their record vs Labour, and the only main party ability to deliver most of what Farage wants, I’m a Conservative voter and proud, what are you? lol

claig · 05/05/2015 11:52

'I’m a Conservative voter and proud, what are you?'

Why are you proud? Are you stupid?

I'm People's Army

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Isitmebut · 05/05/2015 14:33

'Wolfie', is that the Soviet Republic People's Army? lol

The Conservatives have a record of picking up a car crash of an economy from Labour, and handing back the keys when the UK had either fixed the UK economy or it was on its way back, growing faster than Europe - what record does UKIP have?

  • A 2010 General Election Farage called "drivel" so no solutions over the past parliament there.
  • With no UKIP policies to stand by (other than the EU and immigration) we've had 5-years of Farage 'pick n mixing' populist policies between the 3-main parties for cheap votes e.g. in 2010 UKIP wanted to electrify 3 train lines, yet oppose the Conservatives High Speed 2,3.4 etc,train line to go up to Scotland - connecting the north adding infrastucture in addition to helping businesses up there with other measures, to close the gap with the south.
  • A 2015 Manifesto spending commitment heavily paid for by money when LEAVING the EU (when?), relying on a Conservative administration to deliver it - that can't happen as UKIP takes more votes from the Conservatives, so ultra pro Labour and SNP will be the first and third largest parties in Westminster. Duh.

UKIP is still the 'party of protest' once the LIb Dems were in government, but unless protesting against Labour, you should get that old blue rosette out to get an EU Referendum and some chance to negotiate the EU open borders - as how the feck will a 2-10 UKIP MPs in Westminster introduce 'an Australian points system', when the UK is still IN the EU?

Isitmebut · 05/05/2015 14:41

And Russell Brand should be voting Conservative as well.

*As if Russell is anti corporate tax avoidance, anti bank bailout, anti RBS, well looking at the record of the past Labour Treasury 'dream team' of Brown/Miliband/Balls - Cameron has done more in 5-years than Labour did in 13-years.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/in_the_news/2366971-The-Russell-Brand-vs-Ed-Miliband-fireside-interview-clip

claig · 05/05/2015 14:42

It is Farage's People's Army. We will be cheering Farage on on Thursday night in Thanet South. Drinks will be drunk, glasses will be raised and horns will be hooted. The People's Army will be in celebratory mode. With Farage there will be no politically correct minimum alcohol pricing levels imposed by our Oxbridge "terribly bright" politically correct PPE political class. The people's revolution against our elites will have begun.

'what record does UKIP have?'
A record of common sense statements that are second to none.

'UKIP is still the 'party of protest''
It certainly is a party of protest against our politically correct political class, but it is also a party of the people and home to the People's Army.

UKIP is not only about an EU referendum, it is the party of common sense and change and the people.

Remember those historic words that Farage stated when he thrashed Establishment Clegg in the debate.

"Join the People's Army. Let's topple the Establishment"

Thursday is election day. Let's make history. Let's party into the night as we paint the town purple.

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claig · 05/05/2015 14:45

'And Russell Brand should be voting Conservative as well.'

Russell Brand doesn't vote. As I have said before, I think he is only the Establishment's weapon to try to stop the people's revolution.

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claig · 05/05/2015 15:18

Have you not heard about the Common Sense Tour?

It's sweeping the nation. Everyone's taking part, apart from the Oxbridge PPEs.

People are shaking rattles, they're waving flags, they're dancing in the streets. This is democracy at its finest, this is the people's revolution. Hope has returned and common sense will follow. Don't miss out, don't be like Establishment Russell Brand and not vote, turn out Thursday and participate in the people's purple revolution and don't be surprised to see purple Common Sense vans and buses and charabancs and horse-drawn carts and puffing billies (and I don't mean Farage) absolutely everywhere!

www.dianejamesukip.com/south-east/all-aboard-the-common-sense-tour

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claig · 05/05/2015 15:28

This is what Farage said

“I’ve got a feeling next Friday morning some of the liberal metropolitan elite may wake up with a bit of a hangover.”

Marvellous stuff Grin
Watch the panic in BBC studios on Thursday night as the People's Army's victories are read out.

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claig · 05/05/2015 15:36

Can you just imagine what it will be like on the BBC on election night?

Dimbleby:
What on earth is happening? Whole counties are in danger of going purple. No one apart from the People's Army predicted this. Russell Brand seems to have had no impact on results. Let's go over to our expert, Professor John Curtice, to try and make some sense of these extraordinary results. John, what on earth is going on?

Professor John Curtice:
Beats me, David. No one apart from some of the wiser heads in the People's Army predicted this. This is really quite extraordinary. Politics as we know it has changed forever. Everyone who was asked said they voted for common sense. As Farage said "some of the liberal metropolitan elite may wake up with a bit of a hangover" Grin

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Isitmebut · 05/05/2015 16:40

Claig ...good job, there is 5 of your Kremlin 135 comments straight off the bat; well done comrade.

If you go M.I.A, we'll assume you've been shot for being rumbled. lol

claig · 05/05/2015 16:57

You couldn't rumble a bee if it stung you on the nose. If that's the best you've got, CCHQ will ask for their money back.

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Isitmebut · 05/05/2015 17:08

claig .. like i'd have to be from CCHQ not to rumble Labour and UKIP's mistruths. lol

re your "UKIP is not only about an EU referendum, it is the party of common sense and change and the people."

"Remember those historic words that Farage stated when he thrashed Establishment Clegg in the debate."

"Join the People's Army. Let's topple the Establishment"

You missed out "FAIR" as that would have completed the mantra set of every clueless far left and far right wing party looking power in Europe.

'A grave moment for France': National Front sweeps to victory in Paris leaving Socialist government fighting for life - and in Germany a neo-Nazi is elected for first time in decades”
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2638965/Massive-victory-French-far-right-National-Front-record-quarter-vote-Euro-elections.html

• FN leader Marine Le Pen heralded victory for 'sovereign people of France'
• Results so far guarantee FN around a third of France's 74 seats
• Prime Minister Manuel Valls described result as 'a shock, an earthquake'
• President Francois Hollande holds 'urgent' talks with ministers after poll
• Germany faces having first far-Right candidate in decades
• Anti-Islamic party wins more than a quarter of vote in Denmark
• Radical left and far-Right in Greece both perform well
• Beppe Grillo's Five Star movement beaten into second place in Italy

What a shame they never point out what is "the change", "fair", or "common sense" policies are until they get in power and then see they have the same 'ol problems as the previous lot - funny that.

claig · 05/05/2015 17:17

You don't get it. UKIP are not politically correct progressives like the modernisibg Cameroons. UKIP don't bandy about platitudes like Nick "Fair Society" Clegg. UKIP are not PPEs from Oxbridge.

Here is a progressive former adviser to the progressive Blair, who is all for the Cameroons' Big Society - Fair Society.

www.thersa.org/discover/publications-and-articles/matthew-taylor-blog/2010/07/big-society---fair-society/

UKIP are different. UKIP are real

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