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Does anyone elsee agree with the benefit cuts?

211 replies

mrsruffallo · 27/01/2012 13:07

Because I do. They make sense to me. Reward the workers, esp. those in low paid employment, and make it harder to be better off unemployed than working. If ConDem also taxed the rich in an appropriate mnner, I would be very happy.

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TheHumancatapult · 27/01/2012 15:54

nah no need there going to do that under pip dont you now thouands of wheelchair users going to be cured at tick of a pen .

MmeLindor. · 27/01/2012 15:55

Hmm. Cheese. Not sure I understand that.

DLA is paid to those who don't want to work, right?

*Housing
Transport
Childcare

are the reasons for the massive benefit bill*

I had a comment on my blog yesterday from city lawyer who is considering not going back to work after she has her second child because childcare for two young children would cost £2.5k a month.

MmeLindor. · 27/01/2012 15:59

Because, we don't really need that extra £49milllion in corporation tax receipts, do we? (And that's on top of the £180 million tax paid in the previous year). Oh, and doesn't include tax from VAT on UK sales and income tax from Rolls Royce employees....

Yes, that is jolly nice to have that money, but it does kind of pale in comparison to the massive profits that are going to the German owners, BMW.

yellowraincoat · 27/01/2012 15:59

"DLA is paid to those who don't want to work"

I am banging my head on my desk.

Can you hear it?

Hullygully · 27/01/2012 16:01

I don't want to work. I want DLA and a plasma telly please. And a pack of fags.

Hullygully · 27/01/2012 16:01

yellow - you did get that Mme was being ironic..?

MmeLindor. · 27/01/2012 16:03

yellow
I was being ironic. Sorry, thought that my views were well known.

yellowraincoat · 27/01/2012 16:04

Sorry, I don't pay any attention to who's posting and have no idea who has which views.

I apologise for my irony failure.

MmeLindor. · 27/01/2012 16:05

I should have added Wink or a Hmm but never quite sure which of those conveys [irony]

Sevenfold · 27/01/2012 16:06

did the op go out?
she is very quiet

bakingaddict · 27/01/2012 16:08

A very close family member has happily played the system and gets DLA and higher rate DLA and I know of plenty of other relatives who do the same, so my experience is first hand, while I wont go into exact detail once you have a bit of inside knowledge, people to guide you through the pitfalls, it's not so hard to do. You may have a bit of form filling but this can be overcome by taking it to a benefits adviser in a high street solicitors. While nobody denies DLA is there to help disabled people, maybe it's the definition and criteria for determining disabled people that warrants closer scrutiny, like everything else the devil is in the detail

Just because some of us suggest it can be open to abuse, doesn't mean we dont appreciate it's intended purpose and to accuse us of being thick or ranty Daily mail readers is unjust

yellowraincoat · 27/01/2012 16:10

I have applied for DLA year on year with help from advisers. Despite a personality disorder, depression and anxiety, I never get it. Fair enough, I just apply again.

Maybe your rellies could help me, baking addict?

You know, the number of people on here who know someone who's faking disabled, I'm surprised anyone in the country ISN'T receiving it.

KatieMiddleton · 27/01/2012 16:12
ApocalypseCheeseToastie · 27/01/2012 16:13

She's probably still reading my posts sevenfold Wink

Bakingaddict, nobody is saying fraud doesn't go on....we all know it does. But the fact remains the fraud rate is only 0.5 %.....the government are wanting to chop 20% of claims. Hmm

Also many people get DLA confused with incapacity benefit, which is much easier to claim and has a higher fraud rate.

Agincourt · 27/01/2012 16:15

maybe you wouldn't find it quite so great if your severely disabled childs care package had been cut and you had had to give up PAID employment to care for them Hmm It has put me in an incredibly vulnerable position, one which if i were not married (or ever become unmarried) the state will have to support me and my family FULLY. Housing, the lot.

TheHumancatapult · 27/01/2012 16:15

b anking addict now to play the sytem so must been the GP .Hopital Dr maybe a physio becuase trust me they dont take just what is ona orm no matter how well you word it they check

Very simple wording on mine how far can you walk , my reply I can not walk at all due to a spinal cord injury im a parpalegic .backed up by hopital consultant letter stating this and yet they still checked on it

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 27/01/2012 16:16

To get higher rate you'd need quite serious supporting evidence so it's not just a matter of going to a benefits adviser..is this family member also conning a hospital consultant or something? Hmm

yellowraincoat · 27/01/2012 16:17

Why do these threads always come back to DLA? Clearly that shouldn't be cut, and isolated cases of fraud are NOT why they're cutting it.

There are benefits that cost us a lot more, but I don't believe they should be cut either.

Why is it that the poor are being targeted AGAIN? Why not follow up tax evasion instead?

TheHumancatapult · 27/01/2012 16:18

or so great when your informed your going get no moblity help becuase teh nhs was genrours to give you a wheelchair even though wheelchair is not fit for purpose( under nhs rules they only need you to be mobile inside the house)

so many wheelchair users use DLA to buy a decent wheelchair , to use the few and far accessibile taxis .Becuase buses ar enot all accessibile becuase we can not get a train without 24 hrs notice , becuase we can not drive a normal car so often people exchange for adapted car which then means then can get to WORK

Agincourt · 27/01/2012 16:19

I would like all the people who don't think my daughter should get dla and that i shouldn't get carers allowance to have my child for me for a few hours and then see what they thought of the situation Hmm It's a walk in the park, it really is Hmm

TheHumancatapult · 27/01/2012 16:20

yep gincourt .Im willing to trade them mine ands3 disablites for life and they can have the DLA to

webwiz · 27/01/2012 16:23

I think there is a massive muddle in people's minds about DLA and the old "going on the sick" mentality from years ago. My impression was that DLA was already difficult to claim so bakingaddicts benefit advisers in the solicitors must be doing better job of helping people than we are at the CAB.

GypsyMoth · 27/01/2012 16:30

Has mrsruffalo abandoned her thread? She didn't hang around long, as predicted!!

Hullygully · 27/01/2012 16:31

funny that

webwiz · 27/01/2012 16:34

Goodness me its a bit mad in mumsnet world at the moment.