I'm not quite a frothing berserker but I am getting rather cross with our government messing with the good stuff.

[KateMiddIeton]

Just off the top of my head:

• Student fees
• Public sector workers terms and conditions (otherwise known as moving the goal posts after the match has started)
• Women (Report on Fawcett legal challenge result here)
• Sure Start
• NHS
• Erosion of employment rights
• Removal of EMA
• Removal of universal child benefit
• Unfair changes to DLA
• Unfair changes to ESA assessment

I am getting more and more fed up that these decisions are being made to take away some of the things we should be most proud of and that took years to be achieved.

This thread is a safe haven for some ranting as I know some of us are feeling sick and tired of it all.

or rather

yeah i'm thinking it's time for rather than

enough of

Am reading but not keeping up.

I'm @nymphadora1978 on twitter

Right, I'm signing up for Twitter.

I am spectacularly useless at techno stuff: I may be some time.

78% of the budget 'savings' borne by women?
Do these people not love their mothers?

sorry i'm going to copy and paste a couple of my posts from the other thread on 2yo nursery time into here so i have it all in the same place.

that's another thing that surestart was criticised for wasn't it? that it wasn't only poor people who were using it?

are the stinkingly poor, the average poor and the just about keeping our head above water people not allowed to mix and use the same services? are we meant to be ghettoised and not allowed to talk to each other in case we realise that heck, most of our worries and problems are all the same so we don't need to be being divided and ruled!

if so called deprived people get too much the middle classes or those just above the cut off point complain. if the middle classes get to use a facility we complain they're using it. we have to get past this. we need the mixing of classes and the understanding that no one is a foreign body alien to your concerns.

davey boy is not wrong - WE are all in it together it's just that he and his cronies are not part of the WE. they're in their own little safe gang that the absolute vast majority of us will never be in so we need to stick together to protect ourselves from them draining every last bit of blood out of society and the economy for their own profits and ideological imperatives.

and if they get their way of bloody purging the poor from london and the south east that mixing of classes and realisation of shared concerns will really grind to a halt. they won't even see or be near the realities 90% of the population live in - they won't even have to see it out of the car window.

we really have to stick together in a time where i'm tempted to say 'evil' men are trying to drive us all into hating and resenting each other. it's a ploy that we have to rise above. we fall into it far too much here on mn where very many of us are educated and fairly open minded so what chance is there for the community of sun readers to see through this shite and rise above it if we don't?

i'm sorry - someone else used the phrase, "soapbox nailed to my feet at birth" on here the other day. beginning to feel i had the same.

i'm beginning to see how joined up all of this divide and rule goes and how wide a strategy it is. it goes through media, spin, economic decisions, housing policies every bloody thing. i swear they literally want to ghettoise the country.

most of them grew up in boarding school knotty - maybe that answers your question

Marking my place so can try and get my head round Twitter later.

DH and I are both frothing, more like a volcano than a Costa coffee machine. Our MP is Lib Dem with a 300 majority against Con candidate at last election. Most she will say she will do on anything is consider abstaining in any votes. But she will get emails from us both to let her know what we think about what is going on.

I think after Christmas when the bills come in and there's the rest of January and February to get through, people will froth over. I'm going to make it my mission to see what's going on in our local area this Christmas to support the vulnerable and make sure it is highlighted all over our local press what's being done and how people are being affected locally by what's going on. And work on DD's generation (she's 13). We're in a bubble here and they need to realise how sheltered they are and what the harsh reality of what's going on out there .

i think you should be thrown out of the job if you abstain. people didn't elect representatives to go to parliament and abstain ffs. they voted for them to represent not sit on the fence.

Hopefully today's (genius) strike is the next stage of the effective fight back. (All together - 'You say Cutback, we say Fightback Cut cut cutback Fight fight '...repeat and fade)

'People Not Profit'

Yay! Good news if you fly by Lear Jet Unfortunately I can't afford to fly at all but all you Public Sector workers flitting about in your lear jets will be ok.........

huh? don't see many nurses and teachers and care workers and teaching assistants jetting around

Hello lovely people.

I'm on strike today and woke up this morning feeling totally depressed and impotent - not just about the Public Sector issues (that increased after yesterdays statement) but everything, the undermining of ordinary peoples employment rights, the changes to legal aid which means that unless you're rich you can't get justice, the changes to the NHS, the closure of surestart centres and libraries.

And the dogged belief by so many people that this is all necessary because of 'austerity'.

So it is nice to find some like minded people - I feel I've become a bit of rabid political ranter over the last few months. .

Hully - do you want to come outside and have a joint shouting session? It would probaby make me feel better

malakadoush get thee to a rally, there will be much shouting

One minute of noise at 1pm , get thee there!

That's a good idea julie.

I think this strike should be longer to actually get the governments attention. Like a week or two - a day is really nothing to them.

And then they'd want to be something better than janitors?