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Michael Buerk: BBC staff read Guardian "like their bible"

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longfingernails · 02/04/2011 09:40

Yet more confirmation of what we all know.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1372559/Left-wing-shallow-oh-politically-correct--verdict-BBC-Michael-Buerk.html

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newwave · 03/04/2011 10:32

newwave you're so naive. Of course they''re corrupt. Your Clegg in particular. Why do you think he propped up this vile coalition.

eeerr I think that is what i said, I doubt this bunch of tax evading scum millionaires have their hand in the till but as I said they are morally bankrupt.

Anyone who allows the criminals bankers to continue to benefit fom their "crimes" whilst punishing the victims of the "crimes" is immoral.

No doubt these ministers will end up on the boards of these companies as a reward for their doing the bidding of the Masters of the universe

ousel · 03/04/2011 10:33

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claig · 03/04/2011 10:39

Growth is good, that is why they keep talking about it. The opposite of growth is stagnation.

But what they say isn't what they do. The greens and other puppets of the elites don't want growth, they want "sustainability", a term used by Teddy Goldsmith way back when he was in the Ecology Party. They want the public restricted so that they are managed in a sustainable fashion. The result will be decline and poverty, exactly what the puppet masters want for the masses.

glasnost · 03/04/2011 10:41

Errr no newwave I meant they're properly corrupt. Been bought off, paid, taken the dodgy dollar. You know.

glasnost · 03/04/2011 11:19

Allegedly.

Happy Mother's Day everyone BTW. Or is that non MN to remind fellow MNers that we're all actually, like, you know, mums?

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edam · 03/04/2011 12:59

You've got the money trail the wrong way round with climate change. The big money is in denial. That's why multinational companies fund climate change denying thinktanks that don't actually do much thinking.

hogsback · 03/04/2011 13:04

edam - Bingo. The money available to scientists actually researching climate and atmospheric physics is peanuts compared to the money made available to lobbying groups (sorry, thinktanks) from big oil.

claig · 03/04/2011 13:08

Do you think that "cabs for hire" would go against the interests of BP? Don't you think that Exxon and Shell could buy them all out a million times over? Don't you realise that they are all in it together? If the big money was in denial, then why aren't the deniers on TV all the time selling their message. Why aren't there hundreds of books for sale in the shops explaining the climate catastrophe hoax? Why aren't there endless adverts on TV explaining the climate catastrophe hoax?

Why does Michael Buerk say the following?

'a left-wing culture means the national broadcaster has been cast ?adrift of the overriding national sentiment? on issues such as climate change.'

'Buerk also accuses BBC reporters of an ?uncritical love affair with environmentalism?.

claig · 03/04/2011 13:11

How much public money went to the Climategate scientists? Why do corporations back organisations that make adverts where deniers are blown up?

claig · 03/04/2011 13:13

Do you think that politicians provide 'light touch reguulation' for bankers and bail them out with huge amount of public money, but don't listen to the huge oil companies?

edam · 03/04/2011 13:19

The university department doesn't have a fraction of the money Bush and his cronies and the big oil companies have at their disposal. That's partly why they couldn't keep up with demands for information from climate change deniers.

The university that is well-funded is Imperial, which has oodles of cash from petro-chemical companies. NOT that that affects their scientific findings (I know some profs there, who are entirely reputable and ethical) but you can see the contrast between departments that obtain research funding from multi-national corporations and those that investigate climate change.

claig · 03/04/2011 13:22

But BP is not a climate change denier as far as I know. Don't they all have green adverts? Don't they all spend money on "saving the planet"? Don't EDF, who will probably build our new nuclear plants, also promote the same green message? Who doesn't believe in it, apart from the public?

claig · 03/04/2011 13:24

Aren't they all believers in the "carbon footprint"?
Don't EDF sell their nuclear solution as helping to reduce the "carbon footprint"?

hogsback · 03/04/2011 13:25

"Why aren't there hundreds of books for sale in the shops explaining the climate catastrophe hoax? Why aren't there endless adverts on TV explaining the climate catastrophe hoax?"

[sigh] For the same reason there aren't hundreds of books for sale in the shops and adverts on TV about the "9/11 Hoax" or the "Moon Landing Hoax". Because it's a conspiracy theory with no backing in actual science or fact.

claig · 03/04/2011 13:28

But you said the big money is in denial. Apparently the deniers have endless funds and the oil companies are determined to sell the message that climate catastrophe is a fraud? If that were really the case couldn't they get some books about it published? Couldn't they sponsor one or two adverts on TV to counteract the endless message about climate catastrophe? Or don't they want to? Are they all in it together?

claig · 03/04/2011 13:30

Al Gore gave his Inconvenient Truth DVD away for free to schools to educate the young. Couldn't the oil companies have given their DVDs away for free? Oh, they don't have any DVDs to counteract Al. Why is that?

hogsback · 03/04/2011 13:36

claig what would it achieve? The oil companies have extremely strong links to lobby groups and politicians - more overtly in the US but also over here (e.g. International Policy Network). In the US they do also sponsor TV adverts - they can't here as political advertising is banned.

To think that Exxon, BP and Shell have bought in wholesale to climate change is laughable - they may believe the science (they're not stupid) but they really don't give a shit as long as they can carry on selling oil. The "Beyond Petroleum" stuff is just greenwash.

As for EDF - you do realise that they are a nuclear power operator? They are a low carbon electricity producer and would be daft not to advertise the fact if they see it as gaining them a market advantage.

claig · 03/04/2011 13:41

Who was behind the advert on TV of a young girl crying as her house was deluged by water due to global warming? I think it was EDF, I'm not sure.
Who do you think will stop Exxon selling oil? Gordon Brown? You must be joking. I know very well that BP and Exxon are not stupid, they are a lot smarter than Greenpeace. They know a thing or two.

claig · 03/04/2011 13:49

In fact when Climategate broke, I don't remember any BP spokespeople on the news telling Jon Snow "there I told you so". I don't remember the oil companies saying anything at all. You would have thought they would have been clamouring for enquiries and all sorts. But I remember little of that. Instead some deniers who no one has heard of, who never get on TV, and whose books no one has ever read, were probably interviewed.

claig · 03/04/2011 14:06

BP have even gone to the expense of preparing resources for school children to teach them about climate change and the carbon footprint etc. They are not the big bad wolf painted by the lefties. It doesn't look like they are deniers to me. It seems that they are on the same wavelength as the greens and others.

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