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Michael Buerk: BBC staff read Guardian "like their bible"

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longfingernails · 02/04/2011 09:40

Yet more confirmation of what we all know.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1372559/Left-wing-shallow-oh-politically-correct--verdict-BBC-Michael-Buerk.html

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Chil1234 · 02/04/2011 13:17

I'm not following this one.... The greens were set up by billionaires so that makes it a left-wing outfit? And the BBC taking up the green agenda enthusiastically - thus supporting the billionaires - makes them left-wing as well? Do right-wingers not worry about recycling and wind-farms on principle? Hmm

claig · 02/04/2011 13:22

No the left wing are actors, they are puppets. Many are 'cabs for hire'. Billionaires and bankers get their way. They get 'light touch regulation', they get public bail outs and they get to keep their large bonuses. It is right wing elitists who really lead the environmental movement. Billionaires like Zac Goldsmith care about recycling, wind farms and environmentalism.

Chil1234 · 02/04/2011 13:38

So the BBC, by championing the green agenda via its scheduling, is supporting right-wing billionaires.... and therefore could not be accused of being left-wing. Or are we saying the BBC, by championing the green agenda via its scheduling, imagines itself to be left-wing but is, in fact, supporting right-wing billionaires without knowing it? Which begs the question... which side is Clarkson on?

GabbyLoggon · 02/04/2011 13:39

I like Jeremy Hunt because he inadvertently created one of the biggest laughs of the year. But I cannot get my head around what the BBC Trust are really about. Are they suppose to be on the viewers and listeners side?

longfingernails · 02/04/2011 13:42

Getting back to the central topic of this thread instead of right-wing billionaire environmentalists - the BBC are shockingly Guardianista in pretty much possible way (except the honourable exception of Andrew Neil).

Kelvin McKenzie should become Director-General.

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claig · 02/04/2011 13:50

No, the ordinary people don't believe it. Many of those ordinary people are sensible right-wing people who read sensible newspapers like the Daily Mail, which asks a few questions about it all. The Daily Mail was one of the first newspapers in the world to expose ClimateGate, while many of the other media outlets maintained a strange silence. Clarkson doesn't believe it either, he is with the majority of the people.

Nigel Lawson is a leading right wing politician who doesn't believe it. You won't find many left wing politicians who don't agree with it. Many right wingers don't believe it and many ordinary people don't believe it, but nearly all left wingers believe it. It is left wingers who tell us "we have only 50 days left to save the planet". That is why I term it left wing. But, of course, the left wing are just actors, and the ultimate beneficiary is the billionaires.

The BBC champions an agenda. I think the agenda they champion is to the benefit of the elite, which is why they are able to maintain a licence fee paid for by the ordinary people, to enable the BBC to continue in its role as the nation's main opinion former. I am not surprised that Jeremy Hunt did not impose huge cuts on them and the huge salaries of many of their presenters.

We can only surmise what they imagine themselves to be. I don't think they are stupid, I think they are aware of what they are.

claig · 02/04/2011 13:54

But, longfingernails, why do you think that the BBC are Guardinistas?
Don't you realise that Kelvin McKenzie would never be allowed to run the BBC in a month of Sundays? He is too right wing, he is with the people.

Rohanda · 02/04/2011 13:55

OP: "Yet more confirmation of what we all know.."

but, but we already know you are a delusional obssesive. So what's new?

glasnost · 02/04/2011 14:28

I've now come to conclusion longtalons/claws is not all she seems. Are you, in fact, Chris Morris? PLEASE tell me you are.

TondelayoSchwarzkopf · 02/04/2011 14:42

Well as someone who used to work for the BBC I hate to break it to you but the employees read every newspaper (or a summary that the broadcast assistant or runner has done) - they work in the media and broadcasting and it's their business to read all relevant press.

Is it really a surprise that the personal preference of a publicly employed media professional is the Guardian.
a) It has a MASSIVE media jobs section - and most BBC workers are contractors / non-perms
b) It has a big Media and Culture section
c) It has a big Society / Not for Profit focus.

longfingernails · 02/04/2011 15:09

The BBC should be forbidden from advertising in the Guardian.

All its jobs ads should be on its own website only.

In the meantime, if it is not possible to transition immediately, they should advertise in the Mail, Sun and Spectator.

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Ariesgirl · 02/04/2011 15:21

Incidentally, why has caring about the environment so despised by certain among you?

Rohanda · 02/04/2011 15:35

LFN - have you not been classified in the 'semi-troll' category yet?

claig · 02/04/2011 15:38

Everybody cares about the environment, and doesn't want it contaminated by nuclear waste. I wonder how green this is. I wonder if the green czars will question it.

www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/feb/17/sellafield-activity-nuclear-pollution-promise

But, I suspect that Michael Buerk understands that there is a political objective behind climate change and much of environmentalism that is not what it seems

newwave · 02/04/2011 19:45

Chili

take that as a personal insult. You've still never said who you vote for.... Whoever it is, I shaldepsisese you for it on principle.

I have said I always vote LD (except 1997) on manoccasionsnsthatht is the reason I dislike Clegg and Alexander so much. I expect Tories to be nasty, vile and selfish dont expect my party to be an accessory to it.

Just a pair of quislings

newwave · 02/04/2011 19:48

Chili

I take that as a personal insult. You've still never said who you vote for.... Whoever it is, I shall despise you for it on principle.

I have said I always vote LD (except 1997) on many occasions that is the reason I dislike Clegg and Alexander so much. I expect Tories to be nasty, vile and selfish I dont expect my party to be an accessory to it.

Just a pair of quislings

Gooseberrybushes · 02/04/2011 19:55

He is right, but life without the BBC would be awful. I love it. But it's full of shitey shite like wot Buerk says.

newwave · 02/04/2011 19:58

I suspect LFN is a fifth columnist for Murdoch :o

spiderslegs · 02/04/2011 22:02

I don't know where to start on this thread....

Points so far;

  1. newwave you hate anyone who votes Tory on principle?? How very childish. Many of them wil have the same ideals as you, just different ideas of how they may be achieved.

  2. Claig 'Many of those ordinary people are sensible right-wing people who read sensible newspapers like the Daily Mail'. The Daily Mail is not a sensible newpaper, it is hyterical shite that uses scaremongering to push politicaly ill-educated folks into paroysms of fear. About everthing.

  3. LFN - you are either, joking, high on crack or Nick Griffin's wife.

FWIW I am a Telegraph reader who is constantly bewildered and enraged by the BBC's bias.

spiderslegs · 02/04/2011 22:03
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longfingernails · 02/04/2011 22:10

Nick Griffin? There has been no discussion about race or immigration on this thread, as far as I know.

For what it's worth, and just for clarity, I regard the BNP as beneath contempt.

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newwave · 02/04/2011 22:16

Spiders.

Not hate, despise.

The reason for this is what I describe as the "Tory poison pill theory" which is as follows:

You may vote Tory because you like their poilicies on transport of maybe housing whatever fair enough BUT every Tory government increases unemployment and both relative and absolute poverty, they increase child poverty and also introduce policies that hurt the poor and vulnerable.

By voting Tory you are also voting for the "poison pill". You may consider the effects of the poison pill a price worth paying or maybe you dont care about those affected by the "poison pill" as there people dont count, who knows.

That is why I despise Tories

spiderslegs · 02/04/2011 22:31

newwave I have never voted on a single principle, to vote for a party because you like their policies on transport would be reckless in the extreme.

I'd like to see your figures that illustrate Tory government increase absolute poverty (relative poverty is an idotic measure - 'we have a Mercedes but no diamonds,, they have diamonds').

I don't think that's true, we have had GDP growth for the last 30 years - that too is an idiotic measure of political success - where does it stop??? We can't have unalloyed growth - can we?

Much spending is directed by local government & there is a partisan element to how that's structured. Many of the front-line cuts are directed by Labour councils to show how 'horrid' the Tories are.

The majority of my friends are left-wing (mind you they are the bourgeoisie that proclaim from their ivory towers). They know my politics & don't despise me.

claig · 02/04/2011 22:36

'The Daily Mail is not a sensible newpaper, it is hysterical shite that uses scaremongering to push politicaly ill-educated folks into paroysms of fear. About everthing.'

Where did you get this idea from? This sounds like something straight out of New Labour's Millbank HQ. This sounds like the sort of stuff one would be unfortunate enough to hear at a Red Flag or Red Wedge concert.

"All we are saying is give truth a chance."
Read the Daily Mail and from your eyes will fall scales.