How very Tory

[newwave]

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Francis Maude, multi-millionaire ex-banker, took thousands of pounds from the public purse when he rented out the Westminster house he owns and bought another one a hundred yards away so that he could claim the mortgage payments on his MPs expenses and get everyone else to buy him another home to add to the four he already had.

That's how much this greedy despicable hypocrite cared about the deficit when he was sucking up public money for himself.
Then is wasn't so much Big Society as Pig Society, with piggy-eyed Francis Maude with his snout in the trough.

How was he punished for his greed? Cameron promoted him.
David Cameron and Francis Maude: 'All In It Together'.
Right up to their effing necks.

He should be in the nick with every other cheating bastard of whatever party

Congratulations and welcome to MN.

The Guardian bashing is just a bit of light entertainment. There is far more bashing of the Daily Mail on MN, but that is funny and OK too, because it is just light entertainment.

ta. the dm bashing i've yet to read.

will stay tuned.

Look out for newwave's posts. I think you will agree with her. She unfairly bashes Tories and the DM at every opportunity, but fortunately we have the eminently sensible complimentary who puts her right on every occasion.

georgeorwell. Yes welcome to MN, you are in a minority, and I've said it before on here, some women are a pain in the arse, and very opinionated (and some of the men). I'm sure I speak for Claig in that we don't take any of this seriously. It is great for debate, and sometimes you learn things you did not know.

The opinions are not generally the ones the population at large have, as many are very left wing. It's good that everyone can have there say.
Not political I know, I still want to know where Newwave stayed in Tenerife! as my husband does not like it! I think if your remarks are with humour you get on a lot better on here!
I always look at the links for a laugh, or to inform me. If someone is abusive I don't reply to them. It's the best way.
Cheers

I think that is a bit off-topic

Just looking for somewhere to test out all the smileys... I think they're rather pretty as a group.

Oh, and all newspapers these days are rubbish. So, ner.

Am in total agreement

Welcome GeorgeOrwell -

Can't stand the Guardian - but like your posts

Carminaburana, are you here for a laugh then?

I've read some of your posts and you confuse the hell out of me.

How does class equate to education. The buffoons that Orwel speaks of, are educated away from the rest of us and that education is perceived to be supperior.

I went to the open day at Brighton College this month. The Head made a speech in which he said that the children in his school have a well rounded education and form compassionate opinions because "they often see people selling the big issue on their way to school"

So we now have wealthy people saying they understand the plight of the poor and homeless because they once shared a pavement with a poor person.

If only their children had the wonderful benefit of being educated alongside working class children, I conclude they would have a far better understanding of those they seek to represent.

QB - I don't buy the Guardian but I like to read the opinions of a few of it's readers - it's healthy to seek out the views of people who are the polar opposite ( however, I don't think all Guardian readers are Social workers living in Primrose Hill - or that all Daily Mail readers are married Christians living in Esher, I'm slightly more open minded thankfully )

My views on education are that most parents will seek out the very best schools they can ( based on OFSTED reports, exam results etc ) - regardless of what Newspaper they may read, plus I don't think you need to be surrounded by poor people to have empathy for them. First hand experience isn't the be all and end all.

The Daily Mail, like the Sun, is popular in the UK because you only ned a reading age of 7 to be able to understand it. Though to be fair, it's more like a reading age of 7 for the Sun and 11 for the Mail.

We used to use it a lot in remedial language teaching for adults. The Guardian, Times and Telegraph use too many long words and complex concepts.

You read the Guardian - eo ipso you know your arse from your elbow

In the Library I will read left-wing and right-wing columnists (Providing they are good writers)

I think the Mail has some good writers. But I dislike the papers attitude. (I have been in it a few times.)

PrivateEye is a good read if you are into serious/funny gossip. They also do major investigations.

If you just like vulgarity, get VIZ

cheers "Gabby"

i've yet to read posts from any like minded left wing souls comp but i wait to be pleasantly surprised. so far i've most come across u and claig labour bashing and guardian bashing. i imagine you both as those guard dogs out of the omen. JUST JESTING.......cheers!! to you all too. nearly wine o'clock over here in berlusconiland.

and that's the mail for the truth and the Anti English PC Quisling Guardian for the Green pro Europe loving immigrant lies

carminaburna. Social workers living in Primrose Hill? IMO as a social worker, unless you are married to someone 'who has a few bob, I don't know any social workers who could afford to live there.

I was surrounded by poor people as a child. They were called 'my family'. Now I'm surrounded by wealthy people. It has not changed me, apart from the fact, that I know what it's like to be poor, I would not like to return there! TBH I get on more with working class people, (whatever that means) as they normally are not PC.

yes slug the guardian does use long words generally misspelt and all of them attacking the people of this country who lice outside Islington and dont work in the BBC or other left wing areas of the arts

The Guardian slug, does use long words, and people tell me it's highbrow but luckily for this country hardly anyone reads it! With a circulation as poor as 285.000 a day, it sits comfortably with 'Tunnel Boring' and the Concerete Society Magazines, and both are better reads than the Guardian!

I think you've probably said all you need to say about the Guardian and D Mail, have you?

Can we talk a bit more about dishonest politicians? Because I want to know if there are any more horror stories like Maude. Anyone else out there? Hello!

Mellowfruitfulmess, believe me we have only just scraped the surface over the Guardian. There is much more of interest to say on that subject, but it will have to wait another day.

'Can we talk a bit more about dishonest politicians?'
it may consume less time to talk about honest ones. Do you know any, because I'm stumped?

Yes, loads (not personally any more, though). At a local level I think they are mostly sincere, hard-working, altruistic people, who are certainly not out to feather their own nests.

Maybe it's an inevitable part of the process that as they get more power they lose their sense of decency and fairness? Nah - I don't believe that. There were people in parliament who didn't claim any expenses at all, weren't there?

yes, I think there were quite a few who didn't claim anything they weren't entitled to.

Yes, it is a good paper. There is a lot of good stuff in there. But, like every paper, I think it does have an agenda. How much questioning of global warming is there in the Guardian, unlike the excellent Christopher Booker in the Daily Telegraph.