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I'm appalled by Cameron

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kittycat37 · 19/01/2011 22:56

I just posted some of this on another thread here but wanted to re-post because I wonder how many others are just utterly appalled by Cameron?

I've never been a tory, but I have to admit I slightly fell for the 'nice guy' stuff before the election. But I'm utterly shocked by his complacency and callousness now.

He made so much out of 'understanding' the needs of the vulnerable and made much of his supposed personal understanding of the needs of carers.

So how on earth can he account for what's actually happening now?

My Dad has chronic multiple sclerosis. My Mum is his carer, she has had a stroke. They have worked all their lives, paid taxes, contributed to their community in many ways.

Through no fault of their own they now need the help SS for basic care.

But the government is washing it's hands of their needs and the needs of countless others. They are trying to blame future inevitable demise of SS care visits on local councils because they refuse to ring fence social care money. Their ideologically fuelled cuts to councils are so extreme that councils will have little choice but to cut social care in many cases.

We (me and my siblings) do what we can to help with my parents' care needs. But we are cracking under the strain.

When we phone SS for more help they say 'not in the economic climate'.

I wish I could tell Cameron to his face how utterly desperate we feel. I wish I could explain how when I am trying to care for my parents and my two young DDs, I feel that something dangerous is about to happen as the demands are too much. We not able to access a multi million pound trust fund as he could to buy care for his poor son.

And to make matters worse, the government are proposing to abolish Disability Living Allowance because it is apparently a 'barrier to work' for people like my parents. So now they are being made to feel like worthless scroungers because they made the 'mistake' of becoming ill.

Meanwhile; if you're a banker, enjoy your second or third home confident in the knowledge that this government won't be doing anything to reign in your greedy excess.

These are bad times and the sooner we can get rid of this lying, complacent, cruel, immoral
government the better. Cameron, I thought you would know better with what you'd been through, but a tory is obviously still a tory. 'All in this together'? What a joke.

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coldtits · 27/01/2011 13:00

I'm not remotely appalled. That would indicate some level of surprise.

samalexholly · 27/01/2011 19:16

HATE! IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT FOR ME

CatIsSleepy · 27/01/2011 19:23

i agree coldtits-it's all too predictable. Am amazed anyone fell for the nice guy act. The tories were always going to take an axe to public services. It is their way, unfortunately.

Looks like they are screwing up the economic recoverytoo, which is nice.

ethel1 · 27/01/2011 20:14

Suprise Suprise they are trying to finish off what they started in the 90's, NHS, no updated schools, selling forests, no defence ,and trying to get the banks to push up interest rates.
Heaven help us.

Beaaware · 27/01/2011 22:48

Totally agree kittykat37 but it's no surprise we have the CONSERVATIVES back in power here is a reminder of just one disaster they tried to deal with back in the 80's:

"BSE IS PROBABLY THE MOST CYNICAL ACT OF BIOLOGICAL WARFARE EVER WAGED AGAINST A CIVILIAN POPULATION BY A WESTERN GOVENMENT"

We are I am afraid back in the dark days of the 80's- 90's Sad

lifeinlimbo · 29/01/2011 21:35

Tory Government = bad times for the people.
Im not surprised.

lifeinlimbo · 29/01/2011 21:41

:(

lifeinlimbo · 29/01/2011 21:41

or better; Angry

ivanhoe · 31/01/2011 16:16

""I wish I could tell Cameron to his face how utterly desperate we feel""

Cameron would blame Labour's huge deficit, and then he would sympathise.

But the reality is that Mr Cameron is a right wing Tory, and the right of the Tory party do not believe in the State providing you or anyobody else for that matter, with help.

ivanhoe · 31/01/2011 16:17

" Add message | Report | Message poster lifeinlimbo Sat 29-Jan-11 21:35:21
Tory Government = bad times for the people.
Im not surprised"

PRECISELY.

ivanhoe · 31/01/2011 16:23

""ethel1 Thu 27-Jan-11 20:14:11
Suprise Suprise they are trying to finish off what they started in the 90's, NHS, no updated schools, selling forests, no defence ,and trying to get the banks to push up interest rates.
Heaven help us.""

And Clegg's upholding the lot.

Feegle · 31/01/2011 16:35

Cameron is vile, but he is behaving exactly as i thought he would.

ivanhoe · 31/01/2011 16:57

All Torys are vile. They dont care about the ordinary people. Just the rich.

imright · 31/01/2011 17:20

IVANHOE.
Anyone who is remotely Labour is vile.

Anyone who is remotely liberal is vile.

Anyone who is remotely Tory is vile.

Anyone who is UKIP is Vile.

Anyone who is Green is Vile.
Shall I go on... Confused
How stupid do these statements sound? and you make them all the time! about the Tory Party, and anyone who supports them or votes for them.

How can you castigate a whole group of people? It just sounds ridiculous and ignorant.

I didn't notice the Labour Party caring for anyone 'but the rich'. Since when did the Labour Party care about the poor? not since the 70's my bet.
The labour Party is one of ruination not aspiration! Anyone who thinks they are any better IMHO is bonkers!

ivanhoe · 31/01/2011 18:56

""I didn't notice the Labour Party caring for anyone 'but the rich'. Since when did the Labour Party care about the poor? not since the 70's my bet.
The labour Party is one of ruination not aspiration! Anyone who thinks they are any better IMHO is bonkers!""

  1. New Labour were3'nt Labour, they had a Thatcherite Agenda.
  1. We can thank "traditional" Labour and the Liberals, for the NHS, the minimum wage, the welfare state, ect, and that's not caring about the poor ?
kerstina · 01/02/2011 12:22

I was Appalled at Cameron yesterday as he referred to patients as customers at GP 's surgeries. Sad. Says it all really am very depressed.

ivanhoe · 01/02/2011 14:44

""kerstina Tue 01-Feb-11 12:22:39
I was Appalled at Cameron yesterday as he referred to patients as customers at GP 's surgeries. . Says it all really am very depressed""

Yes, says it all really, and Clegg is going along with it all.

feetontheground · 01/02/2011 16:46

It was Labour who got us into this mess in the first place. Have you all forgotten that???? They squandered money we didn't have and they allowed the banks to lend money to people who could never pay it back. Brown has sold our gold reserve for a pittance and under Labour the counsils lost our money in Iceland.
And as for Cameron it is a disgrace that he retreats on all the promises he made in the first place but that's because his hands are tight by the Lib Dems.

slug · 01/02/2011 17:09

Gosh, and there was I thinking the downturn was the result of sub prime mortgage lending in the USA and the banks doing dodgy deals with bundles of mortgages while creating financial instruments that nobody understood.

It was all Gordon's fault...silly me.

There's some very interesting podcasts about the financial meltdown here

newwave · 01/02/2011 17:16

slug, dont forget GB was responsible for the downturns in Ireland, Greece,Spain and Portugal along with the Iceland banking crisis.

Obama should have him arrested for the USA's financial problems as well.

I could not find an empty parking space today, BLOODY BROWN {angry}

feetontheground · 01/02/2011 17:49

Actually newwave, you can blame the lack of parking spaces indeed on the labour government. The councils where instructed to provide only a third of the parking spaces actually needed in new housing developments so people would be encouraged to use the bus or alternative measures. That led to the introduction of the totally over the top Fastlane buses that are far too big for our roads. They have upgraded and rebuilt all bus stops with electronic signs and rebuilt numerous roads to accommodate the huge buses. What was wrong with using the existing smaller buses but make sure they run more often and on time and are affordable for a family of 4 to actually use it instead of a car? Better yet they should have invested into save cycle paths and safe pavements without potholes.

newwave · 01/02/2011 17:55

FOTG, :o

I will take your word on that. I was visiting a client who does not have a car park, ended up in Wickes.

feetontheground · 01/02/2011 18:02

:)

dotnet · 02/02/2011 10:13

imright You say since when did the Labour party care about the poor?
Last government - pension credit, child tax credit, winter fuel payments, minimum wage, free bus travel for pensioners, working tax credit, new deal 50plus, New Deal for Communities, EMA ....

There are loads more things the last government did which helped people who don't have a lot of money- those nine are just a few which spring to mind.

A big blot on the copybook, though, - Blair's letting down of our students by taking away the right to free higher education for our brightest kids.

ivanhoe · 02/02/2011 10:38

""dotnet Wed 02-Feb-11 10:13:06
imright You say since when did the Labour party care about the poor?
Last government - pension credit, child tax credit, winter fuel payments, minimum wage, free bus travel for pensioners, working tax credit, new deal 50plus, New Deal for Communities, EMA ....

There are loads more things the last government did which helped people who don't have a lot of money- those nine are just a few which spring to mind.

A big blot on the copybook, though, - Blair's letting down of our students by taking away the right to free higher education for our brightest kids.""

Now if ""Labour" had stuck to it's "traditional" values, from 1997, Labour would have ditched the free market working without State intervention, and brought in State subsidy and investment into all our existing vital services.

They would have also abolished the unjust council tax, and increased income tax on middle and high earners, they would have built council housing for people who could not afford to buy, they would have restored the state pensions link to earnings or inflation whichever ever the higher and abolished the means test that pensioners had to endure under Thatcher.

And they would have had fair and equal re-distribution of wealth.

So the entire country could have enjoyed the proper wealth of this country without being means tested for handouts as per you mentioning tax credits and pensions credits as above copied and pasted.

By doing as you explained and which again I copied and pasted at the top, New Labour widened the rich and poor devide left by Margaret hatcher and John Major.

But as you rightly point out, "New" Labour did relativelly good things, and they are now going to be destroyed by David Cameron simply because of right wing ideoligy, and not because of cutting any deficit.