I'm appalled by Cameron

[kittycat37]

I just posted some of this on another thread here but wanted to re-post because I wonder how many others are just utterly appalled by Cameron?

I've never been a tory, but I have to admit I slightly fell for the 'nice guy' stuff before the election. But I'm utterly shocked by his complacency and callousness now.

He made so much out of 'understanding' the needs of the vulnerable and made much of his supposed personal understanding of the needs of carers.

So how on earth can he account for what's actually happening now?

My Dad has chronic multiple sclerosis. My Mum is his carer, she has had a stroke. They have worked all their lives, paid taxes, contributed to their community in many ways.

Through no fault of their own they now need the help SS for basic care.

But the government is washing it's hands of their needs and the needs of countless others. They are trying to blame future inevitable demise of SS care visits on local councils because they refuse to ring fence social care money. Their ideologically fuelled cuts to councils are so extreme that councils will have little choice but to cut social care in many cases.

We (me and my siblings) do what we can to help with my parents' care needs. But we are cracking under the strain.

When we phone SS for more help they say 'not in the economic climate'.

I wish I could tell Cameron to his face how utterly desperate we feel. I wish I could explain how when I am trying to care for my parents and my two young DDs, I feel that something dangerous is about to happen as the demands are too much. We not able to access a multi million pound trust fund as he could to buy care for his poor son.

And to make matters worse, the government are proposing to abolish Disability Living Allowance because it is apparently a 'barrier to work' for people like my parents. So now they are being made to feel like worthless scroungers because they made the 'mistake' of becoming ill.

Meanwhile; if you're a banker, enjoy your second or third home confident in the knowledge that this government won't be doing anything to reign in your greedy excess.

These are bad times and the sooner we can get rid of this lying, complacent, cruel, immoral
government the better. Cameron, I thought you would know better with what you'd been through, but a tory is obviously still a tory. 'All in this together'? What a joke.

We can't afford to close our markets with European countries - but equally, they can't afford to close their markets to us, even collectively.

It would be an almost trivial exercise to negotiate free trade deals with all existing EU countries.

please don't ever pull out of the EU - we'll all be stuck here for good then. at least now we can pop across the channel if it all goes tits up here

lol at mercibucket. I rather rely on being able to work within the EU, well for my job, and my DH's job, and the reciprocal pension arrangements and all that. If someone is going to close the borders I only hope i am allowed to stay this side, away from the xenophobic loons.

Labour Party FFS a right bunch of illiberal. money wasting b'stards if ever there were ones. UKIP is not phobic about anyone, they only to protect Britains interests. Unlike the Labour party who wanted to sell this country down the river, and nearly managed it. Until Cameron came along, and had to sort out the mess that they made. The labour party was to controlling and wanted to control everything including our lives with ID cards. Under labour the oridinary person could not have a piss without them watching.

Your lovely ED Balls, a bastard if ever there was one put 30.000 childrens names on hate registers (and that included nursery children) We lost many freedoms under labour and I'm glad they have gone. You call 900,000
mad who voted UKIP? do behave yourself and get a grip.

I know who sounds swivel eyed and it's most of the labour Party! cheers!

Newwave. why do you always resort to name calling? Face the facts 900.000 voted for them because they were fed up with the other parties. Mostly disgruntled Labour/Tory supporters.

LFN. We could always trade with other countries if we are not in the EU. Switzerland had the sense to stay out and they trade don't they?

You miss my point. Pulling out of the EU doesn't mean we can't trade with the member states.

Do you really think France is going to give up on tens of billions of pounds/euros worth of cross-Channel trade, just to prove a political point? Do you think Audi and BMW won't want to continue to sell their cars here?

Pulling out of the EU doesn't mean no free trade. Indeed, if the EU were just what it was meant to be - a free trade area - I would support it.

The problem is that it is trying to become a superstate, with absolutely no democratic mandate, and precious little accountability.

When the EU was introduced to this country it was for 'trading purposes only' and I believe, had six countries in it. It has changed out of all recognition.

We should leave the EU, still trade with other countries and retain the 16 billion that is given, to this bloated monster. No in future I think I will call the EU 'Jabba', it's what someone unkindly called my cat, I was so upset when I found out what it was! It's more pertinent to the EU than my lovely cat!!

LFN. Well said.

Even if we were to leave the EU (which I don't want to) we'd still have to obey the majority of their regulations. All goods and services that are sold in the EU must meet EU regulations whether they are produced by a member state or not.

Some of the crazier examples aside (bendy bananas etc) I actually don't mind the minimum quality requirements - providing they are universally agreed.

What I mind massively is the encroachment of the EU onto big areas of social policy, justice, and sovereignty itself.

With respect the the EU I would be happy for the UK to be in a Schengen Area type agreement to promote free movement of goods and people. I am not in any way keen to see a 'cutting off' of Europe of isolate the UK.

Interestingly, there has been discussion yesterday between the Prime Ministers of the Nordic and Baltic countries and UK to set up some kind of Northern League.

It seems to me that the EU has to fragment into trading and currency blocks to make it manageable anyway. The creation of a Northern and Southern EU each with its own currency o perhaps several currencies is essentially beginning to be discussed.

We need the UK to be in Europe, pro-Europe but not run by Europe and certainly not transferring billions of pounds to it. We need that money to care for our vulnerable and sick and educate our children as per the OP.

I am disgusted by Cameron.

The removal of the mobility component for people in care homes is a disgrace. People need to get out and about for the sake of their emotional health.

The scrapping of the independent living fund.

The proposed scrapping of DLA for another benefit which will cost 20% less. 20% less than DLA which has an etimated fraud rate of less than 1%.
That's just a cut dressed up as a change. Disability Living Allowance helps people with their mobility and care needs which cause a lot of the additional cost of being disabled. This CUT will lead to widespread poverty and isolation.

Things were not perfect under Labour but this is just sticking the boot in. Kicking people when they are down.

how about stopping fighting wars and giving more money to the care of the disabled and the vulnerable instead?

How about stopping the war and giving the money saved to the care of the disabled?

It's a fine show of Disaster Capitalism.

I could happily take a firing squad to the lot of them whilst chanting "Die Tory Scum" and still sleep at night.

Capitalism delivers a lot of the things we enjoy and need. Socialist utopianism doesn't and couldn't.

I used to travel to Romania and deal with the Soviet Union a lot before the Berlin Wall came down. It was truely horrible - some of the worst experiences of my life.

I guess we could hope for a sort of Scandinavian Socilaism but even there the rich are despised and there is an undercurrent of the 'haves' and 'have nots' with exhorbitantly wealthy well connected families on top of society.

Absolutely agree with everyone highlighting the fact that this government is attacking the most vulnerable. It really is, and it is going to get worse.

Just for info to those on the loony right - ECHR is unrelated to membership of the EU, being as it is a body of the Council of Europe, of which Britain was a founder member in 1949.

Firepile, have you read the Lisbon treaty?

Membership of the EU is now conditional on accepting the writ of the ECHR. The two are certainly not separate.

Yet another thing to blame Labour for. Previously, we could have pulled out of the ECHR without pulling out of the EU. Now we can't.

Are you seriously suggesting that we should withdraw from the European Convention of Human Rights, which we have been signed up to since 1950, LFN? You really are bonkers, aren't you?

The UK simply is not going to make an alliance with Belarus in being a member of the European Council not signed up to ECHR.

And astonishingly, signing up member states to the ECHR through the Lisbon Treaty has more to do with forcing potential new mwmber states to address the parlous state of human rights that pertain in some parts of Europe. And to guard against repeating some of the human rights abuses (or we could just call them genocide and torture if you'd prefer) that made central europe such an unpleasant place to live in the early-mid C20th, or indeed parts of the Balkans in 1990s.

But yeah, that's a bad thing. Obviously.

Council of Europe, not European Council.

Yes, I am suggesting that we pull out of the ECHR.

We don't need Eurocrats lecturing us on human rights. We are the country of Magna Carta.

Why is it any business of a Eurocrat whether prisoners in British jails can vote or not?

David Cameron should be doing more and addresing the needs and plights of us Carers' My god we save the Government millions. We are human, we are not Robots. We are Crumbling.

What have this Government done for anyone other than make massive cuts that are affecting everyone, everywhere.

Society failing in so many ways. Failing our DC/Children, also, we as Carers. When is David Cameron going to tackle this plight that we Carers have to endure on a daily basis. We fight, We struggle, We constantly have to battle for resources that should be readily available, to ease our pressures.

The mistake is to think the Tories give a shit, these are not compassionate or caring people.

We are the country of Magna Carta.

with respect to the Magna Carta, envoking it here is just knee jerk jingoism.