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I'm appalled by Cameron

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kittycat37 · 19/01/2011 22:56

I just posted some of this on another thread here but wanted to re-post because I wonder how many others are just utterly appalled by Cameron?

I've never been a tory, but I have to admit I slightly fell for the 'nice guy' stuff before the election. But I'm utterly shocked by his complacency and callousness now.

He made so much out of 'understanding' the needs of the vulnerable and made much of his supposed personal understanding of the needs of carers.

So how on earth can he account for what's actually happening now?

My Dad has chronic multiple sclerosis. My Mum is his carer, she has had a stroke. They have worked all their lives, paid taxes, contributed to their community in many ways.

Through no fault of their own they now need the help SS for basic care.

But the government is washing it's hands of their needs and the needs of countless others. They are trying to blame future inevitable demise of SS care visits on local councils because they refuse to ring fence social care money. Their ideologically fuelled cuts to councils are so extreme that councils will have little choice but to cut social care in many cases.

We (me and my siblings) do what we can to help with my parents' care needs. But we are cracking under the strain.

When we phone SS for more help they say 'not in the economic climate'.

I wish I could tell Cameron to his face how utterly desperate we feel. I wish I could explain how when I am trying to care for my parents and my two young DDs, I feel that something dangerous is about to happen as the demands are too much. We not able to access a multi million pound trust fund as he could to buy care for his poor son.

And to make matters worse, the government are proposing to abolish Disability Living Allowance because it is apparently a 'barrier to work' for people like my parents. So now they are being made to feel like worthless scroungers because they made the 'mistake' of becoming ill.

Meanwhile; if you're a banker, enjoy your second or third home confident in the knowledge that this government won't be doing anything to reign in your greedy excess.

These are bad times and the sooner we can get rid of this lying, complacent, cruel, immoral
government the better. Cameron, I thought you would know better with what you'd been through, but a tory is obviously still a tory. 'All in this together'? What a joke.

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liquiditytrap · 19/01/2011 22:59

a) He's a Tory

b) he has 30m quid, he doesn't have a clue. I always knew the 'nice man' stuff was a ploy

c) The country is completely broke. If he tries to come down hard on the bankers they will pack up and move HQ abroad, and Britain will lose out even more.

QueenGigantaurofMnet · 19/01/2011 22:59

I agree.

I disliked the way he paraded his son for the camera's to try and prove what a caring and understanding loke he was.

but the fact that he has now gone back on everything he claimed to have stood for makes my blood boil.

How on earth SamCam sleeps in the same bed as teh slimey bastard i will never know.

he actually makes me feel sick to look at him, knowing the way he prostituted his son's disability

cece · 19/01/2011 23:02

I've said it before and I'll say it again. People seem to have very short memories. A tory is a tory!

QuintessentialShadows · 19/01/2011 23:03

Cameron is like a modern day

herbietea · 19/01/2011 23:04

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Remotew · 19/01/2011 23:05

The sooner we all get used to being shit on the better, I reckon. I am sat here seething about what's going on atm.

The best we can hope for is that we have enough food to eat and keep a roof over our heads whilst we ride out the storm that is the next 4 1/2 years.

Feel sorry for anyone who is vulnerable, our teens, low income families, and the many people who will lose their well paid jobs soon.

kittycat37 · 19/01/2011 23:07

herbietea

My parents have had just about enough care to cope.

What has changed is that with Cameron's government all that is under threat and looks likely to disappear.

It is far far more frightening than anything under the labour government we experienced.

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liquiditytrap · 19/01/2011 23:07

Tbh I don't think Labour would be much better.

We need to not be too hard on the rich if we want to get ANY taxes off them. The bank bailout was necessary but has left us skint. I suppose it was inevitable after the bubble of the early 2000s, but not sure anyone could have prevented it.

kittycat37 · 19/01/2011 23:10

Labour would not have threatened the well being of disabled people as this government are doing.

No way.

This goes way beyond anything we've seen in recent decades and it is sick.

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ivykaty44 · 19/01/2011 23:10

By this evening, the prime minister's office had been made aware of the latest developments in Vincent's situation. Cameron's spokeswoman said he would be writing to her and would be putting as much pressure as he could to make sure that the local council is doing all it can for her, but this, she stressed, was "a local council issue".

Its just the way he now passes the buck....

kittycat37 · 19/01/2011 23:11

It's so fucking cheap.

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2shoes · 19/01/2011 23:12

he is the lowest of low
a con man
I have never hated a politician before, but I hate him. I hate the way people think he understands, when he hasn't got a clue.

herbietea · 19/01/2011 23:15

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budugs · 20/01/2011 11:31

hello my first post.

i felt i wanted to respond to some of the posts on welfare following the deaths recently of two close friend.

both had cancer the first was found fit for work by the dwp medical and died 3 months later, the second was found fit for work and died 6 weeks later.

somthing is dreadfully wrong with this system.

its all very well the media and press printing storys and making tv proggramme about benefit scroungers but when will we see a proggramme highlighting how difficult it is for disabled people to quaify for this for benefits.

dotnet · 20/01/2011 11:35

kittycat37 I am sorry for your situation (and for yours as well, herbietea.
For the first few months of this govt, I wondered if, perhaps, we were not going to be governed by The Nasty Party after all. It looked as if they were going to take a 'softly softly' approach. Well, derrr...
I didn't - wouldn't have - voted for them. And thank goodness I didn't vote LibDem either.
Yes, I'm utterly appalled by Cameron. I bitterly resent his determination to turn university into grown up public school. We shuld be way beyond the 1940s and 1950s, not turning the clock back to a time when a good education was all but closed to the working class.
The DLA thing, too... dreadful. I heard that a local school which takes in around 100 severely handicapped kids, looks like having to axe their occasional outings,thanks to the cuts.
Wow, this is all such a massive and horrific contrast to Labour days. Pension credit, Winter fuel payments, minimum wage, Warmfront heating grants, child tax credit, working tax credit, child trust funds, EMA, free bus travel for pensioners, Surestart - all of these were introduced by the last govt, I think (or most of them anyway.) I'm guessing at least 50% of the population benefited one way or another from what Labour did.
I truly believe DC has NO IDEA how ordinary people think.

For instance, what is all this business which came up recently about 'poor' students possibly getting two years' worth of tuition fees paid for? Who does DC think the 'poor' students are?
Nearly ALL of them, that's who. Most students, unlike the kids from the families with whom he probably mixes - DON'T have independent incomes. Nearly all students are 'poor' in that sense. So even if students from homes with an income of under £15K, say - were helped by having two thirds of their tuition paid for - that STILL leaves children of average income households in deep debt.
Takver, on another 'Politics' thread, Do we really neeed to make so many cuts? supplies two links which make interesting reading. The articles are written from a leftish standpoint. You'll find them on the first page of the thread, Monday 17 Jan at 19:40.

If I try to come up with things introduced by Conservative governments which have been helpful to ordinary people, only two spring to mind (and one of those, I'm not at all clear about.)

i) John Major introduced the 'rent a room' scheme whereby people can have someone living in their house and paying rent to a certain level, without the landlord having to pay tax on the rental income. That was a helpful move for a lot of people.
ii) Edward Heath introduced the over eighties pension (that's the one I'm unclear about.)

I realise the Tories may have introduced other measures helpful to ordinary people - it's just I can't think of many.

Yes, we're now ruled by The Nasty Party again.
Denis Healy reckons this govt will last another year.

Something to cling on to, maybe?

budugs · 20/01/2011 11:44

hi all

just read on the scope website that the government plan to abolish dla and replace it with somthing called a pip.

Remotew · 20/01/2011 11:58

dotnet. I so hope Denis Healy is correct. I've never hated someone as much as I hate David Cameron and Nick Clegg. It's only the Lib Dems that can bring this government down and they don't look like they are going to Sad.

Snez · 20/01/2011 15:11

I agree about using his son. It was awful! I remember thinking at the time, no you do not have a clue. How low can one go?
But even Tories hate him and think he is snake but he was their only hope of power. The only person that likes him si Clegg.

BeenBeta · 20/01/2011 15:17

I voted Tory at the last election and at every election since I was eighteen.

Never again.

I will vote UKIP if I am still in the country. Utterly disgusted at what is happening.

MarioandLuigi · 20/01/2011 15:40

Oh yes, UKIP would have been much better Hmm

smallwhitecat · 20/01/2011 15:47

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GetOrfMoiLand · 20/01/2011 15:54

Bloody hell BeenBeta I thought you were a true blue.

Why UKIP though? Just a strategic thing (exodus from Tories but not wanting to assist lib dem or labour vote) or do you have sympathies with their ideology?

I totally agree with the OP and others. He and his government are disgusting. Blaming the 'deficit' and the free spending previous asministration in order to sweep through life and make ideological changes to suit the conservative determination to destroy the welfare state.

liquiditytrap · 20/01/2011 16:01

UKIP aren't very bright though.

Agree, politically speaking it was a major flaw of DC to make that promise, which he must have known he couldn't keep.

On the other hand, this country is broke to a pant-wettingly scary degree.

BeenBeta · 20/01/2011 16:08

I want out of Europe. I want the money saved to be used to down national debt and front line public services saved. At least Nigel Farage says it how it really is. I cant say that of other leaders.

I feel really really despondent at the state we are in. I am sick of the lack of honesty. I am sick of the richest people in society undeservedly getting richer (whether it be bankers, senior civil servants, heads of charities, chief executives or local council leaders). I am sick of the lack of courage from our political leaders. Sad

rinabean · 20/01/2011 16:14

No, the Greens are way better than UKIP. They have actual plans to create work, reduce poverty and support the vulnerable. They have some really interesting policies and I'm really glad they made some progress in the last election, though it'll be a long time before I have a Green MP, I bet.