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I'm appalled by Cameron

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kittycat37 · 19/01/2011 22:56

I just posted some of this on another thread here but wanted to re-post because I wonder how many others are just utterly appalled by Cameron?

I've never been a tory, but I have to admit I slightly fell for the 'nice guy' stuff before the election. But I'm utterly shocked by his complacency and callousness now.

He made so much out of 'understanding' the needs of the vulnerable and made much of his supposed personal understanding of the needs of carers.

So how on earth can he account for what's actually happening now?

My Dad has chronic multiple sclerosis. My Mum is his carer, she has had a stroke. They have worked all their lives, paid taxes, contributed to their community in many ways.

Through no fault of their own they now need the help SS for basic care.

But the government is washing it's hands of their needs and the needs of countless others. They are trying to blame future inevitable demise of SS care visits on local councils because they refuse to ring fence social care money. Their ideologically fuelled cuts to councils are so extreme that councils will have little choice but to cut social care in many cases.

We (me and my siblings) do what we can to help with my parents' care needs. But we are cracking under the strain.

When we phone SS for more help they say 'not in the economic climate'.

I wish I could tell Cameron to his face how utterly desperate we feel. I wish I could explain how when I am trying to care for my parents and my two young DDs, I feel that something dangerous is about to happen as the demands are too much. We not able to access a multi million pound trust fund as he could to buy care for his poor son.

And to make matters worse, the government are proposing to abolish Disability Living Allowance because it is apparently a 'barrier to work' for people like my parents. So now they are being made to feel like worthless scroungers because they made the 'mistake' of becoming ill.

Meanwhile; if you're a banker, enjoy your second or third home confident in the knowledge that this government won't be doing anything to reign in your greedy excess.

These are bad times and the sooner we can get rid of this lying, complacent, cruel, immoral
government the better. Cameron, I thought you would know better with what you'd been through, but a tory is obviously still a tory. 'All in this together'? What a joke.

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BeenBeta · 20/01/2011 16:23

Greens are just socialists/communist by another name. Yet more socialism means more public debt - whether it be from bailing out bankers or profligate wasteful public spending will not solve our problems.

Alouiseg · 20/01/2011 17:37

I'm inclined to agree with you BeenBeta. The sooner we stop pandering to Europe the sooner we can rectify our own mess. The country is in a terrifying state.

GetOrfMoiLand · 20/01/2011 18:04

Well, yes, I see your point re Europe, but I think UKIP is a hiding place for narrow minded Express readers and their ilk.

Takver · 20/01/2011 18:38

If anyone is interested, I think the link that dotnet is referring to is this one.

I think the other thing that we all need to remember, all the time is that Britain is

a) massively unequal compared to most countries in Europe

b) massively unequal compared to most of recent British history. Keep meaning to hunt out the stats, but IIRC income distributions are definitely more unequal now than at any time since the 2nd world war, and probably more unequal than they have been since the 1850s (ie before full manhood suffrage, let alone votes for women)

So even if the country is doing badly overall, it is utter rubbish to think that we couldn't improve things by redistributing some of the resources that we do have. It is also IMO utter rubbish to say that companies/the rich would leave and we would be worse off. If that were the case, there would be no industry left in Germany, France, the Benelux countries, let alone any of Scandinavia.

anigma · 20/01/2011 19:15

cameron does not think to keep families together he is splitting families of all types at the seams most of all single parents with young children ..he needs to be more in touch with the people and promote family life . i have written to him loads of times he doesnt even reply .

kittycat37 · 20/01/2011 19:39

I've only just had the chance to catch up with this

herbietea I'm really sorry to hear about the absolutely terrible treatment you had - and you're right, I was maybe being naive as I did not think that would happen under a labour government. I'm truly shocked.

My parents have not had that problem.

But the whole climate is just so unpleasant at the moment and worse I think than before - the government's 'consultation' document about DLA for instance just seems to work from the assumption that a lot of disabled people are actually scroungers.

For instance it talks about DLA being a 'barrier to work' - WTF???

It's just patronising in the extreme. I think most disabled people would do anything to be able to work and be treated equally - but most of them are not given that opportunity or are prevented through no fault of their own.

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lizzytish · 20/01/2011 20:00

My daughters main aim in life is to help disabled children and young adults. My son has brain damage received at birth, he is now 27years of age. I had to source every ounce of information myself regarding special education, health and benefits for him. He is now in a wondefull care home enjoying his independent life.

My daughter dreams to do a PhD in social policy and health, however is so far unsuccessful in obtaining monetary funding from her University. She wishes to research the struggles many parents and carers face when trying to obtain financial and personal support, special education, health services and benefits etc. She also wishes to reveal the void many young adults with disabilties face when they transition from the child social services into the adult social services. Many young vulnerable adults find themselves lost within a confusing and supportless system.

I am writing to all parents and carers to inspire hope. There are many young people who feel passionately about fighting for people with disabilties. With a little bit of governmental support a lot of changes could be made. However, I fear we are going to be holding our breath when it comes to the government. Cameron is unsupportive in regards to an issue which I would have assumed would be one close to his heart :(

Greycoat · 20/01/2011 20:04

I have read Riven?s statement. I am an old mother of a disabled son who has a disabled wife, both 44 years old and I feel for Riven. I dont believe that Government does enough to help the disabled and their families. We struggled for years to help my son. He is blind with hand difficulty and epilepsy. He worked until he could no longer do so but has the consolation of a lovely wife who is confined to a wheelchair and has epilepsy. After a long search they found the perfect home in residential care. To reduce their seizures they keep active in the local community, a vital aspect of their everyday life. We thought all was well until the government dropped a bomb on their world. It announced that it would take away all their mobility allowance which they need to pay for transport to go out. When my son was told he collapsed and had to be hospitalised. Neither their care home nor their local authority can possibly afford to pay their DLA mobility allowances which come from the DWP. They are so frightened that they will be trapped in their home unable to go out to their courses, exercise class, library and church. They have nightmares about it. No family live near them who can help. I have written to every MP in the House of Commons because I dont know how else I can help them. If they are confined in their home they will despair, have more seizures and be given more drugs. How could any government do this to such vulnerable disabled people who have no other resources?

granted · 20/01/2011 20:55

How dreadful. No consolation, just wanted to express sympathy with you all who've posted here. I don't think I realised 'on the ground' how exactly these cuts would hit.

Shocking. I really hope the govt relents. Not holding my breath, though.

Roll on the next election - if the Tories haven't abolished those too in the name of efficiency. Hmm

LadyBlaBlah · 20/01/2011 21:01

The man is appalling. He has absolutely no integrity. He is also suffering from an extreme dose of arrogance, truly believing he is of a superior intelligence

another little demonstration of his deviousness

longfingernails · 20/01/2011 21:15

I'm not enchanted by Cameron either, though he is quite natural at "being" PM.

He wants European judges to decide whether prisoners in Britain get the vote. He won't get rid of the 50% tax rate. He has conceded the intellectual argument on "inequality" to the Guardian classes.

The government is still doing enough to keep me away from UKIP though. The Gove reforms alone make my vote worthwhile.

LadyBlaBlah · 20/01/2011 21:24

God if he has lost people like you LFN, he is truly fucked

huddspur · 20/01/2011 21:40

LFN- Do you really think that we should rip up the the ECHR? Also with the size of deficit we have we certainly can't afford to scrap the 50% tax rate either.

complimentary · 20/01/2011 21:44

Beenbeta The £75 million they give a day to the EU would be better spent here! that's why I vote UKIP and always will, I want out of the EU. Another 8 countries want to join, so if you have misgivings about the EU they will be trebled when, a potential 172 million people join.

I knew Cameron was a bloody liar when I met him, he pretends he's Eurosceptic whilst caving in to the EU.

The EU has now created it's own 'foreign office' so that the MEPs who are not accountable can live in the Caribbeane with their families at our expense. This foreign office was set up some months ago. See;
www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2011/01/14/an-eu-foreign-policy/
As Redwood says in his article it will have some 5000 freeloaders around the world in exotic places! MEPs are less accountable than MPs. The EU costs Britain £16 billion a year. Perhaps that could pay for the care your family needs! Farage and Gerard Batten (UKIP immigration minister) are the only ones who speak out. The Tory party will never get my vote again. Cheers Grin

complimentary · 20/01/2011 21:45

Caribbean!

longfingernails · 20/01/2011 21:49

Yes, I think we should leave the ECHR - and have a British Bill of Rights and Responsibilities, just like the Tories said in their manifesto.

And the 50% tax rate barely raises any tax. I am first and foremost a fiscal conservative - deficit reduction must generally come before tax cuts. However, given the minimal amount raised by the 50% top rate, and the strong empirical evidence that lowering over-high tax rates can increase total tax take, it is ludicrous to keep it at 50% out of fear of the political backlash.

The most talented people in the world can choose where they work. We should do everything to make them want to choose Britain. Why would anyone choose to pay a income tax rate of 50% (actually, well over 60% once you include National Insurance).

BeenBeta · 20/01/2011 21:49

I vaguley remember reading about this and did rather foolishly believe it would be a very limited delegation to major G20 nations, etc.

This is just way over the top and yet we see the EU member states themselves stagger from day to day bailed out by ECB money. No wonder the Eurocrats will do anything and spend anything to keep the gravy train on the rails.

DrNortherner · 20/01/2011 21:54

I have never voted Tory and never will. DC scares me. I am scared for education and scared for the NHS and scared for hard working low income families.

I hope Dennis Healy is right. And I hope NC finally shows some integrity and pulls the plug on this shower of shite.

newwave · 20/01/2011 22:02

Clegg and integrity and strangers I am afraid, he is part of this "shower of shite".

complimentary · 20/01/2011 22:04

The Greens are useless and want to stay in the EU I'm glad they were beaten in some areas they stood in, by UKIP. The Greens are socialists with another name.

UKIP received 2000 votes in Oldham and the Tories 4000? and they are a major party? Grin

huddspur · 20/01/2011 22:05

LFN- I don't think a new Government should come in and just rip up a declaration of human rights and write a new one that better suits its views.

mercibucket · 20/01/2011 22:08

It's Gideon who rules the roost - direct your hatred his way

longfingernails · 20/01/2011 22:09

I don't think there needs to be any supranational declarations of human rights beyond "torture is universally wrong".

I really like the First Amendment in the US Constitution, but it certainly isn't universally accepted practice, even amongst Western democracies. If the ECHR were limited to "torture is wrong, and everyone must be allowed to freely express their views" then it would be fine.

Other things are the preserve of individual countries. It isn't some unknown grey Eurocrat's business whether prisoners in British jails can vote or not.

newwave · 20/01/2011 22:09

UKIP ffs, swivel eyed xenophobic little Englanders.

Portofino · 20/01/2011 22:23

But who will the UK trade with? Do we want tariffs on all our imports/exports?

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