Britain's totally unfair tax system

[ivanhoe]

Hi everybody, what im about to write maybe will surprise some of you, but nonetheless its all fact. So here goes.

Britain is a low income tax nation, hence increases in Council Tax.

Including Council tax, Britain has the most disproportionate tax system, compared to Western Europe.

The poor in Britain pay more "overall" taxation including Council tax and Income tax, in proportion to income, than the rich.

What do you think of that then ?

Ivanhoe, go away.

PortoFangO, interesting quote about Beveridge. These eugenecists are everywhere you look. I knew that the leftist Fabians were eugenecists, but I didn't know that Beveridge was one too.

"Eugenics became a widespread progressive cause promoted by the Fabian Society, and was closely allied with similar arguments for birth control. In 1903, H. G. Wells wrote: "the conclusion is that if we could prevent or discourage the inferior sort of people from having children, and if we could stimulate and encourage the superior sort to increase and multiply, we should raise the general standard of the race."

All of this is not too far removed from the warnings to so-called scroungers of "don't expect us to pay for your kids".

HG Wells for sure, and I have George Bernard Shaw in the frame as well for this (may be wrong).

Reminds me of this crew. I don't think they all have just the two you know - yes Sir David Attenborough, I'm looking at you. But that's alright because they aren't the horrid dirty working class who really need to be kept in line.

I think the Fabians tend to keep very quiet about this stuff ie how they think grand people such as themselves should deal with the lower orders. And no, they haven't changed much as far as I can see.

catinthehat2 you are right, George Bernard Shaw was another one. On another thread, I have mentioned a green guru who is a patron of the sinister sounding Optimum Population Trust, Sir Jonathon Porritt.

I knew that Sir David Attenborough was a green, but I didn't realise he was also something to do with it. I should have realised.

If you scratch the surface you will find them everywhere. You are right, they haven't changed.

Just looked at your link, and surprise, surprise, another patron of the Optimum Population Trust is the granddaddy of the greens, James Lovelock of 'Gaia' fame.

I don't know all the rest of them, but it wouldn't surprise me if they are all green or conservationists.

They are indeed very GRAND!

It's wonderful that they take such an interest in us COMMON people!

I'm EVER SO GRATEFUL!

Yes these elitists have only got our interests at heart, just like HG Wells and all the rest of them. Lots of them believe we are just scroungers and that humanity is a virus that is killing the planet. Of course, they are not the virus, it's only us "inferior sort of people", us scroungers, who are the virus.

I do not agree with Eugenics in any way, shape or form, but I did have a sneaky thought earlier, that if Beveridge was thinking of a certain type of "man", say similar to those whose disgusting behaviour engenders long threads in Relationships, he might have a point!

ffs what would be ridiculous would be taking your OP on trust. Your OP mentioned nothing about the establishment of the nhs or welfar state. What you said, though I shouldn't need to remind you, is, " Including Council tax, Britain has the most disproportionate tax system, compared to Western Europe."
This is not only ungrammatical but completely unsupported by any evidence.

Then this just goes to prove how little you know then doesnt it.

Not at all Ivanhoe, it shows CCF likes evidence, not just you spouting off about things you evidently know nothing about.