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Lily Philips - can she be a 'true' Christian?

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mids2019 · 01/08/2026 09:56

https://www.premierchristianity.com/opinion/lily-phillips-has-been-baptised-i-pray-its-accompanied-by-change/20772.article

This article made me think about what it means to be Christian especially about the concepts of sin, judgment and redemption.

In my view Lily of course is a Christian being baptised but to not give up a lucrative adult film career possibly does cause angst amongst more traditional Christians.

We are taught not to judge 'Let those without sin cast the first stone' and to accept the universal unconditionally of forgiveness. (We pray every day about the forgiveness of sin) so it is difficult thologically to condemn others.

However does any fellow Christian need to remind Lily she makes money from a profession where many women with less choice are coerced and manipulated for thr gratification of men? Wr have moved away from a less judgmental Christianity but how do you view participation in Christian life with such a job?

LP Baptism

Lily Phillips has been baptised. I pray it's accompanied by change

The baptism of a pornographic actress has caused controversy, but the real question isn't whether Lily Phillips' sins are too great for God's grace - it's whether she truly understands what repentance means, says Lois McLatchie-Miller

https://www.premierchristianity.com/opinion/lily-phillips-has-been-baptised-i-pray-its-accompanied-by-change/20772.article

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RedTagAlan · 12/08/2026 01:44

Justmerach · 11/08/2026 22:29

Does this help, I wrote it a few weeks ago on a thread started by someone else.
If it doesn't answer the question can you refer directly to the scripture you mean. I may have missed the discussion. Btw, I think we all have a spirit which can communicate with God and to send prayers to.
....
About slavery-

I think that there was some very needy people at that time and they didn’t have a benefit system or a free NHS like many countries have today. What you may perceive to be a slave is not always the same as what the Bible perceives this to be. I know relatives abroad who have taken on destitute people in their lodgings and provided a place to reside to them and food to eat and this need for care exists today in some countries for helping with house work etc..

I can say that God never condoned any person a bondswoman or man to be treated in a criminal manner if they were within the law.

God’s treatment of Haggai shows that God wanted her to be treated fairly by Sarai although she was a bonds woman.

The thing is as well Israelites didn’t always listen to God and did not to Moses to several times and they at times would do what they wanted to captives. This had ramifications to as well.

They had different laws to-if a man abused a woman sexually, he may be held to marry them. This was seen as being justice as they would find it difficult to be married having gone through this crime back then.

God views were clearly written in (Leviticus 19:33-34) ,all people to him were equal although he severed Israelites for himself. The giving of his Son and (Galatians 3:28) express God views today that we are all equal. In (Isaiah 9) Jesus Christ came to put slavery to an end.

You cannot ignore the social background that existed at that time to and apply modern to an ancient world. There are many sources which support to the idea of servitude so I am not alone with this. The people themselves though underwent many hardships and it was all to get to Jesus Christ. Jesus reflects God the Father's views.

www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/305549/jewish/Torah-Slavery-and-the-Jews.htm

"The Lord has never promoted nor approved of people owning one another. But slavery was a part of life in those times. Almost every country practised it. And in this case, though not an ideal situation to be in, bondage to the Egyptians was the best answer to the Israelite’s dilemma of how to become a nation without becoming a threat to other nations while they grew in numbers."

https://gospelstudy.us/why-did-god-allow-israel-to-be-slaves/?srsltid=AfmBOooZGwBFds2LaBn5xD<u>0XYIrleYN6275TCpzkQuZbsBXe0kbk-7k

God was a punisher on rape.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_the_Hebrew_Bible

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Here you are justifying slavery because of your God.

Quote "Jesus Christ came to put slavery to an end."

Except he never got round to it. He did manage to find time though when he was dead to send someone a letter saying a womans children be killed.

Question. Are there any fake religions that are all made up ?

OtterlyAstounding · 12/08/2026 01:57

RedTagAlan · 12/08/2026 01:35

New Gods are being invented all the time. Effectively every split in a Christian Church is a new god.

"Meet the new god, same as the old god."

RedTagAlan · 12/08/2026 02:06

OtterlyAstounding · 12/08/2026 01:57

"Meet the new god, same as the old god."

All different. Even the same God is different to different people. We see that here on this very small thread. Christians don't even agree.

Saw a comment on an Irish politics forum a while back. If there are a billion Catholics, then there are a billion Popes.

RedTagAlan · 12/08/2026 02:35

Justmerach · 11/08/2026 23:30

I thought you were may be referring to local news. We still have no idea how God's spirit may have helped some people personally.
We have spoken before about end times and natural disasters are a part of end times in Matthew 24 and nobody will know when that will be except God the Father.
I have still sought God's intervention through prayer for things like peace in some countries.
Btw, I read in the Bible that one of the signs of the end of times which you may have seen today...the post runs quite quick. All this fire did make me think, but I don't that we are there yet.

(Revelation 6:12)
"And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood."

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As a matter of interest, do you pray for the end times to come ?

Parker231 · 12/08/2026 06:47

Justmerach · 11/08/2026 23:30

I thought you were may be referring to local news. We still have no idea how God's spirit may have helped some people personally.
We have spoken before about end times and natural disasters are a part of end times in Matthew 24 and nobody will know when that will be except God the Father.
I have still sought God's intervention through prayer for things like peace in some countries.
Btw, I read in the Bible that one of the signs of the end of times which you may have seen today...the post runs quite quick. All this fire did make me think, but I don't that we are there yet.

(Revelation 6:12)
"And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood."

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If any god had been helping people through the fires, news teams would have been all over it but no - no help. The fires continue to burn out of control with food shortages now forecast.
A god is no more likely to help anyone than there will be any end times.

Justmerach · 12/08/2026 08:37

RedTagAlan · 12/08/2026 02:35

As a matter of interest, do you pray for the end times to come ?

No, I don't pray for end times to come.

RedTagAlan · 12/08/2026 08:46

Justmerach · 12/08/2026 08:37

No, I don't pray for end times to come.

Do you pray for the rapture ?

Parker231 · 12/08/2026 08:47

Justmerach · 12/08/2026 08:37

No, I don't pray for end times to come.

What makes you think there will be end times other than you read it in the bible? Do you have any evidence to support this theory?

Justmerach · 12/08/2026 08:51

Parker231 · 12/08/2026 06:47

If any god had been helping people through the fires, news teams would have been all over it but no - no help. The fires continue to burn out of control with food shortages now forecast.
A god is no more likely to help anyone than there will be any end times.

Jesus promised to send his followers the Holy Spirit Comforter in (John 14). The Holy Spirit has many roles and one of them can be protector and strenghtener. The way they work is more personal. I think it is possible they could give a prompt an instinct to leave somewhere that might set on fire. This is an potential of possible help being given. They could have given some people more strength to cope.
"He gives power to the faint and increases the strength of the weak" (Jude 1:24).
The example of Simon Thomas was a different situation but Simon's feels that it was God's prompting by the Holy Spirit that probably saved his life as a child. All decisions by the Holy Spirit is agreed by Jesus and God the Father.

Parker231 · 12/08/2026 08:56

Justmerach · 12/08/2026 08:51

Jesus promised to send his followers the Holy Spirit Comforter in (John 14). The Holy Spirit has many roles and one of them can be protector and strenghtener. The way they work is more personal. I think it is possible they could give a prompt an instinct to leave somewhere that might set on fire. This is an potential of possible help being given. They could have given some people more strength to cope.
"He gives power to the faint and increases the strength of the weak" (Jude 1:24).
The example of Simon Thomas was a different situation but Simon's feels that it was God's prompting by the Holy Spirit that probably saved his life as a child. All decisions by the Holy Spirit is agreed by Jesus and God the Father.

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So basically no help for those suffering in the fires and earthquakes across the world - ignoring them - best way to loose supporters.

LinnetsWing · 12/08/2026 09:01

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Justmerach · 12/08/2026 09:03

Parker231 · 12/08/2026 08:47

What makes you think there will be end times other than you read it in the bible? Do you have any evidence to support this theory?

They have showed through the gifts of the Holy Spirit that I need to keep on for eternal life. One of my conditions can say some harsh things at times and they sent me something that I need to focus on the end because the body as I was no it will go and I will go to Christ as a child of God.

I have had vivid dreams once about scenes of end times in the Bible when I was 17. I think it may have meant the Holy Spirit gifts I was given was from Jesus Christ ministry.

LinnetsWing · 12/08/2026 09:06

OtterlyAstounding · 12/08/2026 01:57

"Meet the new god, same as the old god."

There’s a current AMA from a Seventh-Day Adventist, a church that only exists because a previous movement confidently expected Jesus to return on a particular date in October 1844, and disbanded in what is, hilariously, known as the ‘Great Disappointment’ when he failed to show. So the SDA church was invented out of that ‘Whoops!’ to say ‘OK, we just meant Jesus was coming back on earth to prepare, discreetly, for Judgement Day!’

Justmerach · 12/08/2026 09:08

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My thinking isn't muddled and it is very clear and you appear to not understand and some will not. I am non denominational and don't work for any organisation. I have said very little and Simon Thomas was used as an example and spoke himself that God Spirit was probably there for him personally. Those were not my words.

RedTagAlan · 12/08/2026 09:10

Justmerach · 12/08/2026 09:08

My thinking isn't muddled and it is very clear and you appear to not understand and some will not. I am non denominational and don't work for any organisation. I have said very little and Simon Thomas was used as an example and spoke himself that God Spirit was probably there for him personally. Those were not my words.

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So when you study the end times, are you studying it because you want it to happen ? For Jesus to come back ?

Justmerach · 12/08/2026 09:15

RedTagAlan · 12/08/2026 09:10

So when you study the end times, are you studying it because you want it to happen ? For Jesus to come back ?

I have looked at it because I want to understand more about the faith. I think it will happen because it is written that it will. As I wrote before nobody knows when that will be except God the Father. I don't worry about it much but think may be sometimes if we could in the end times by the events that have taken place that is mentioned in Matthew 24.

RedTagAlan · 12/08/2026 09:16

Justmerach · 12/08/2026 09:15

I have looked at it because I want to understand more about the faith. I think it will happen because it is written that it will. As I wrote before nobody knows when that will be except God the Father. I don't worry about it much but think may be sometimes if we could in the end times by the events that have taken place that is mentioned in Matthew 24.

But Jesus has to come back for you to join him in heaven right ?

Justmerach · 12/08/2026 09:24

Growing up as a child you hear that when you die you will go and live in heaven. i think the Bible says the dead will rest and Christ when he returns with the second coming believers will go with him. I think that there are some people who have judged as holy enough to be in heaven before this time like some Saints such as Carlos Acutis. This is before the 2nd coming of Christ. A miracle has been attributed to his name.
Personally, I could be in some wait for Christ, but who knows. Christians may have different views about this.

Justmerach · 12/08/2026 09:25

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Reported.

LinnetsWing · 12/08/2026 09:27

Justmerach · 12/08/2026 09:25

Reported.

And yet you responded to the comment earlier?

Justmerach · 12/08/2026 09:29

LinnetsWing · 12/08/2026 09:27

And yet you responded to the comment earlier?

I decided to report it after.

LinnetsWing · 12/08/2026 09:34

Justmerach · 12/08/2026 09:24

Growing up as a child you hear that when you die you will go and live in heaven. i think the Bible says the dead will rest and Christ when he returns with the second coming believers will go with him. I think that there are some people who have judged as holy enough to be in heaven before this time like some Saints such as Carlos Acutis. This is before the 2nd coming of Christ. A miracle has been attributed to his name.
Personally, I could be in some wait for Christ, but who knows. Christians may have different views about this.

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A rather poor example of sanctity. Many devout Catholics think the canonisation of a teenager not noted for any particular religiosity in his lifetime was ridiculous, and point to financial incentives and pious family members desperate for their child’s tragically early death to be meaningful as reasons for the unusually quick process .

Parker231 · 12/08/2026 09:40

Justmerach · 12/08/2026 09:24

Growing up as a child you hear that when you die you will go and live in heaven. i think the Bible says the dead will rest and Christ when he returns with the second coming believers will go with him. I think that there are some people who have judged as holy enough to be in heaven before this time like some Saints such as Carlos Acutis. This is before the 2nd coming of Christ. A miracle has been attributed to his name.
Personally, I could be in some wait for Christ, but who knows. Christians may have different views about this.

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I didn’t hear as a child about when I die you go to heaven and I didn’t teach my DC’s that - it would be a massive lie

RedTagAlan · 12/08/2026 09:45

Justmerach · 12/08/2026 09:24

Growing up as a child you hear that when you die you will go and live in heaven. i think the Bible says the dead will rest and Christ when he returns with the second coming believers will go with him. I think that there are some people who have judged as holy enough to be in heaven before this time like some Saints such as Carlos Acutis. This is before the 2nd coming of Christ. A miracle has been attributed to his name.
Personally, I could be in some wait for Christ, but who knows. Christians may have different views about this.

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Ok. So all this means is that you DONT want Jesus to come back. Because that would be the Rapture and you don't want the Rapture to happen. Right ?

Justmerach · 12/08/2026 09:54

RedTagAlan · 12/08/2026 09:45

Ok. So all this means is that you DONT want Jesus to come back. Because that would be the Rapture and you don't want the Rapture to happen. Right ?

I'm not willing it to come before the time that God has noted. I do want what is the Bible to take place, but it will be sad and I do not know if it will be in my lifetime.

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