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The land where the bong tree grows 2005

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glitterfairy · 10/01/2005 11:33

Ok guys I have done some spring cleaning and the yurt is dusted out. I am out on the deck enjoying a glass of fruit cocktail and a spiritual moment. Come and join me.

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glitterfairy · 29/01/2005 21:25

HIya sleepyjess yes the unicorn is right at home here and the rainbows and leprechauns are also enjoying having a few new visitors.

I have had a stressy day in rl but here things have been very peaceful and calm and my nails are now painted from our great nail bar and I had a wonderful healing massage and facial.

The dolphins say hi to you all and in particular to the unicorn!

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Papillon · 29/01/2005 22:29

Hi All

I have come today to sleep in my thistledown tree cos baby paps is being a tad wakeful at nite.

After a lonnnng sleep I am going to have a rejunvenating juice courtesy of the elves.

Have been reading and sharing with my family a book called Astrology of the Soul I am leaving a copy of the book on the deck for you to look at.

glitterfairy · 30/01/2005 12:16

Thank you paps. I hope your stay away in NZ is going well and that you are getting rest as well as happiness seeing family and friends.

Like the book I will read it properly later. Am resting today.

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SleepyJess · 30/01/2005 21:00

Hi guys.

I can really see this place now. But I can only see it in flashes.. does either (any?) of you succeed in actually 'going there'..? It would be a good meditation I suppose.. but I have never been any good at that

My unicorn is called Belle by the way And now I am going to take a minute to check out that book on the deck. Wish I could take it up to my RL bath that I am just going to have. I would rather have a soak in some warm springs in Bong Land.. listen to the water falls and watch the rainbows.. instead of going to my boring old bathroom. Maybe I will try. (Thanks for letting me share this place. I am surprised there are not more of us going there..)

SJ x

Papillon · 30/01/2005 23:45

my take on why more people don't come here is that this place vibrates and responds on another dimension level. A MNetter did start a Yurt shop last year and that had more response, but that was I feel cos it was about receiving virtual help or assistance in a lighthearted manner - and tired mums need that I guess

This place is more about seeking, or coming for rest and imaginative seeking. Well thats how I see it all anyhow - that we don't have to wait to die to see our soul/spiritual dimensions fully. Seeing ourselves as not perfect beings or lower than the 'God' Self (I cannot think how to put that more clearly atm) means we block the total flow of matter and energy with ourselves as 'God/Goddess/Soul'. Basically I feel we don't exercise that part of ourselves enough and can all achieve oneness when humanity and individuals cease placing boundaries around spirituality. Some see religious spirituality as release though and I don't - I recall that clearly when I was doing an Alpha course... some wonderful teachings but for me too many walls to really connect me with the God within myself. We all have our own path to follow but spirituality for me is also about evolution and growth beyond what we have already received. Even though I don't like labels such as New Age it surely has as ionesmum once said on another thread shown that people wish for new ways to seek and find and no longer discover this just within one book or ideal. Our society trains us to be far too rational and for many people and me that speaks of a lost skills and wisdom.

anyways Hello Belle, when I close my eyes I see your mane and you seem wild and free to me... or is she mild and well mannered sleepyjess?!

Hope you are feeling rested glitterfairy.. sleep is eluding me and i have a headache that makes may whole body ache. I have been sitting in the bong tree though and its soothing fruits are working wonders. I am just about ready for a dip in the lake. I am going to dive deep and enter the void at its centre. There its tranquil and soothing and speaks to me of the pulse of Life.

SleepyJess · 31/01/2005 09:05

Wow Paps. That second paragraph just about sums up everything I feel about the way I think things are.. I still go to church - have no desire not to.. but what you said about 'wonderful teachings but too many walls'..I feel that exactly.

Belle is definitely wild and free.. but I think she likes the company of all the humans and other creatures in the land of Bong.. I just saw her face. She looks really pleased with herself.

I suppose visitors to this thread might say 'mad cows! All in their imagination!' but imagination has to come from somewhere doesn't it! And it's a lovely place to relax. I just want to go there for longer than quick flashes.. but it's almost as if another part of me is there already, relaxing in a tree!

SJ x

melsy · 31/01/2005 13:09

Hello sleepy jess welcome to our lovely space and my spiritual sisters. I left here for a while , but thinking of paps in NZ and farther and farther away made me think of you more. I realised we havent "spoken" in weeks. I fell of the path of light for some time and now seem to be finding my way back. Material stresses(loft conversion and delaing with nasty builders), took theyre toll on my MBS and I had to come through that 1st. I now have ezcma round my eye from the stress , so need to find my centre again.Im going down homeoptahic route , but need another remedy as the previous one (arsenica album),has calmed it a little but its not gone yet.

BUt saying that I have been working hard on my art and a new collection of canvases late into the evenings, but I need to build up some steam(and some free time !!!!) for it to move on further. I have several BIG BIG canvases to do ,but need a push to start them. I have to reserach lots fisrt and practise small versions on paper first to build up the braveneess levels !!

Sleepy jess it is tradition of sorts , if u like, to bring a favourite room or space of your own making, to the the land. It may help to get you " here" in spirit , just by describing or reading about the spaces.If you trawl through the other threads of litotes you may see descriptions of all the spaces you can also visit that wehave created here. My faves are the wooden deck with a great tree stting right through it, to the right we have a glassed room which houses sun beds and a hot water tub , bif enuff for all, in another area of glass is a sea water vitalitty pool with water jets to sothe aches and pains. I also have a comepketely pannelled thai room for ralxation and reading , others have summmer rooms , winter rooms , yoga rooms and many more. We look out onto a woodland thistledown area with lakes in the distance. It is a shere heavenly space , one I would love to be in all the time.

Paps , sounds lovely in NZ , I can feel its wonderful energy coming through you into here.

SleepyJess · 31/01/2005 13:33

Hello Melsy.. happy to meet you - I have been reading your input on other threads and am glad you've come back. Sorry about the stress of RL..I know how you feel.. RL sucks a bit here too at the moment.
I will look out the other spaces you have mentioned. I found the yurt shop.. I love it. I actually had quite a successful few minutes there earlier. Well it was a few mins in RL.. but longer where I was! I will contribute with my own 'favourite room'.. will give it some thought. Other peoples' do indeed sound lovely beyond description! Talk to you again soon.. and you Glitterfairy and Paps-in-NZ. And anyone else

SJ x

SleepyJess · 31/01/2005 13:49

I know these spaces are just for us to go to on our own (unless we should see each other whilst there ).. but I just got myself all tearful (but kind of in a good way..well sort of..) wondering whether, if I could take my DS's there for short spells, that whilst there, they wouldn't have anything wrong with them? Maybe little DS would even by able to walk... and express himself 'properly'... I never allow myself to imagine this anymore.. hence the pathetic female act I am doing here. Good job nobody can see me

I'll pop back later. I am must go study..
SJ x

melsy · 31/01/2005 17:32

aww sleepyjess, this is space for you and your little ones, we have a lovely creche were they can be or do what they want.

melsy · 31/01/2005 17:33

what are you studying ?

SleepyJess · 31/01/2005 19:09

Hi Melsy. Oh yes I forgot about the creche I will see if i can 'take' my little one there later.. or when I get a mo (which may not be for a while thinking about it). If he isn't any different there to how he is in RL then I will know that even in RL he is exactly as he wants to be! (Which is quite possible.. he is such a happy chappy!)

I am doing Social Sciences degree with the OU.. if I can stay out of Bong Land long enough.. . I much rather be there than at my desk.. Social Sciences are fascinating but a little too real and about all the bad things we are doing to the world..

SJx

PS How looks after them in the creche?

melsy · 31/01/2005 20:21

I think it would be nice if it was their own special gaurdian angels, they can have fun with them and also show them special spiritual magical things. Who would you like it to be ???

Papillon · 31/01/2005 21:23

paps quick fly by... Sleepyjess most people just think we are barking, mad, weird are some of the lighthearted gestures we have received. I am glad it made sense to you I have had a headache and body cranks for the last two days and cannot speak let alone think sometimes... sleep is evading me... more on that later. the sleep bit that is

Hi Melsy nice to hear from you but I gotta dash... we are all off to the hot pools for a soak

xx

SleepyJess · 31/01/2005 21:36

(My typing is bad today, I'm glad people seem to be able to work out what I'm going out about.. must proof read!)

Sorry you're feeling pants Paps.. hope the hot pools help (whether RL ones or not!!) You should pop into the yurt shop for something to make you feel better as well.. somebody left me a calorie- free chocolate cookie in there earlier!

Melsy, yes guardian angels would be good.. and very appropriate seeing as we all all have them anyway, and our children probably remember them better than we do.

SJx

Papillon · 02/02/2005 18:01

The guardian angels looking over the creche babies is a beautiful idea.

Baby paps guardian is a white ringneck dove.

The hotpools were divine and as I lay in them I could look upon the sea. I bring them here to bong land, but here they are in the forest upon a cliff top hidden amongst the trees, overlooking the lake.

Had a beautiful massage and teachings from a wise women yesterday.

Sending light thoughts to the Bongian sisters X

SleepyJess · 02/02/2005 21:19

Hi Paps.. the hotpools sound gorgeous.. did you take Baby Paps in them, or are they too hot?

It weird you say that about the Bong land version, as yesterday, whilst I was with my dad at the hospital for some tests, I was sitting next to him while he was having a bone scan of his whole body. He had to lay completely still for half an hour so I didn't want to talk to hi, because he couldn't talk back, so my mind wandered off to Bong Land and I took littlest DS with me.. (he can't walk in RL even though he is 4.. he has cp.. and in Bong land he CAN..although at the time I wasn't even surprised!).. and we were splashing about in a hot pool-type environment!

SJ x

melsy · 02/02/2005 21:48

Hi sleepjess , wonderful to see these all popping up on active again.You are a lovely spirit to have joined us.Bless you x & your ds x.

Hiya paps , shame we dont seem to be aorund at the same time , im just making sure I dont use all my relaxation times in front of the pc screen, even though I love come here. Sounds like you are having a wonderful time in NZ , hope your aches and pains are better today. What are you doing today ? Id so love to see it all , but I can sense it here in our space. Hope to see some piccys next month of it all. HMMMMMMMM those hot springs sound so lush.

SleepyJess · 02/02/2005 22:05

Melsy, I don't know how I have survived so long without the land where the Bong tree grows.. . I have never been able to even attempt to meditate..but have long wantd to.. and yet I can slip in and out of Bong land quite easily.. .. and feel better for it. (and the Yurt Shop). I suppose it COULD be considered a type of meditation?

SJ x

melsy · 03/02/2005 10:54

I feel it is , very similar to what i do in hypnotherapy sessions. Also similar to meditation yes , with meditation you just need to let other thougts go , by acknoweldeging them and letting them flow away.

All it is is training the mind to concentrate on one thing only for a streteched period of time. It is acheivable, id suggest trying it a few times a day , just start by doing some deep breathing only, so as not to overwhelm/overload the mind with a new way of being.

When I was being shown how to self hypnotise , my therapist made me put post it notes all over the house,(fridge/car/bedside/ pc), to make me deep breathe over and over for 6-7 days, at least 6-7 times a day!!! It worked as I do it automatically now. Breathe in through nose whilst expanding tummy and getting that sensation of filling yuor lungs(hand on chest to really feel it), then pause and exhale letting out all the inhilation. Just do this first then after a week or so move onto just visualising a relaxing colour moving into your body whilst doing the breathing. Imagine the colour soothing and calming your mind and body. You can really do any form of this that you want; the colur could be water , smoke , it could pour from your head down , it could seep from your feet up . eventually you can : walk yourself down into a walled magic garden , move up stairs to a white floating sanctuary, sit on a deck or balcony loking out at white beach and the sea. Imagine what these views and places are doing to yourbody is it cool, warm , breezy . Do you feel at peace?? are you relaxed??

Do whatever really makes you get that hmmmmmmmmmmm feeling! These are all just suggestions, my therapist is always encouraging indivdual and personal ways of doing it. Learning to do it withought any props (tapes/cd's) is a good discipline as you can then access the techniques withought anything but your MBS xx HTH xx. Now Ive told you and written this its reminded me that I would like to really be doing more often !!!

I love coming to this space and I dont always remeber how lovely it is.

melsy · 03/02/2005 10:56

just to point out , you realsie as you said below that your kinda doing it anyway by being able to visualise this space. It shows what an amzing imagination you have , thats alll your accessing in meditation , coupled with an ackowldegment of what its doing for you.

SleepyJess · 03/02/2005 16:25

Thanx Melsy. I will revisit this thread and print out your advice.. no time for anything at mo.. Littlest DS is poorly with a chest infection .. talk to you soon

SJ x

Papillon · 03/02/2005 18:09

very special day for me yesterday... in fact the last 2 days have been special... bong land is here in RL life for me and I am humbled and honoured. Would take awhile to write and it sits inside me as precious and still unfolding. I think I would like to buy a dictatphone today and speak via that medium.

So Jess would you like to go for a ride on Belle with Esmeralda and me? We could stop at the forest pools for mediatation, to soak our bones and talk about those lovely books you have just received... Melsy you need to get a pony or a scooter Then we could come back to the deck and sit under the tree and watch the stars speak in the sky.

melsy · 03/02/2005 18:14

OK a great mahogany beauty with 16 hands , but he needs a name. I used to ride one just like that many years ago b4 my back gave way. Im just galloping towards you !

Would love to hear about yor special days paps

My backs going out on me right now too , must be in the air. Hurts even to lay flat and strectch, so a soak would be great.

Hope your ds gets better soon sleepyjess, my dd has nasty cold right now and is a fountain of snot constantly.

Papillon · 03/02/2005 18:23

please give my regards to dh melsy and kiss for the little one.

Okay mahogany 16 hands you and Belle might have to have magnificent dashes every now and then and then circle round and find Esmeralda and I... we do trot and dawdle But that way i SEE and hear the land very well.

XXX