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rosesaredeadvioletsaretoo · 2024-10-15T22:25:56+00:00

I’m wanting to find out more about Christian Spiritualism and was wondering if anyone might have an recommendations for resources/books/courses/groups and so on?

Feelingathomenow · 27/10/2024 08:24

onetwothreehello · 27/10/2024 08:21

@Feelingathomenow

So to clarify, my understanding of unity doesn't preclude composite parts which work together.

You seem to be saying there are no composite parts, that is an illusion. Yet at the same time you are saying we need separation in order to understand / contemplate. We need to be an 'outside observer' to understand properly. If I understand you correctly? (Hence you feel you understand Christianity better than Christians)

Yet I feel understanding is complete only in unity with that which is to be understood. And further on from this, complete unity with God would lead to complete knowledge and understanding of all things.

I do wonder why you feel I have to be involved with the Spiritualist church in order to understand it?

why do you think o have to be involved with the Christian church to understand it?

onetwothreehello · 27/10/2024 08:29

But that is the purpose of creation, to enable God to contemplate itself, look at it like a mirror. It creates the illusion of sepetate things but there really isn’t. But rather than just a mirror reflecting the physical looks, imagine that mirror reflecting every aspect of being. In reality that ego is the mechanism we see the reflection.

@Feelingathomenow, God also came to earth as the form of Jesus. He experienced our physical form, being human. He experienced humanity. Why did He need to do this, if the sole purpose of creation was simply to be self contemplation?

He did this out of love. Like children born out of two people's love for one another...we don't just want them to reflect us back to ourselves. We want a whole new person to be born.

onetwothreehello · 27/10/2024 08:31

why do you think o have to be involved with the Christian church to understand it?

@Feelingathomenow, to receive more understanding of God, (Who knows all things) which comes through Christ.

Feelingathomenow · 27/10/2024 08:39

onetwothreehello · 27/10/2024 08:29

But that is the purpose of creation, to enable God to contemplate itself, look at it like a mirror. It creates the illusion of sepetate things but there really isn’t. But rather than just a mirror reflecting the physical looks, imagine that mirror reflecting every aspect of being. In reality that ego is the mechanism we see the reflection.

@Feelingathomenow, God also came to earth as the form of Jesus. He experienced our physical form, being human. He experienced humanity. Why did He need to do this, if the sole purpose of creation was simply to be self contemplation?

He did this out of love. Like children born out of two people's love for one another...we don't just want them to reflect us back to ourselves. We want a whole new person to be born.

Well in my understanding we are all the same as Jesus and he the same as us.

Feelingathomenow · 27/10/2024 08:40

onetwothreehello · 27/10/2024 08:31

why do you think o have to be involved with the Christian church to understand it?

@Feelingathomenow, to receive more understanding of God, (Who knows all things) which comes through Christ.

In that case, if God knows all things, he also knows of spiritualism, so to understand spiritualism you would understand God better

onetwothreehello · 27/10/2024 08:46

@Feelingathomenow,

In that case, if God knows all things, he also knows of spiritualism, so to understand spiritualism you would understand God better

I prefer to go through the route which Christ leads me upon. Less pitfalls! Since He also knows us and what is good for us so and loves us. I'm not sure I could say the same for all the spirits it is possible to connect with...

onetwothreehello · 27/10/2024 08:51

Well in my understanding we are all the same as Jesus and he the same as us.

@Feelingathomenow, well, yes, Jesus came to earth in human form. We are human. Except He was in complete unity with God and as such had complete connection to God. We can be distracted, we can connect with spirits other than God, spirits that rebel against God.

onetwothreehello · 27/10/2024 08:56

@Feelingathomenow you never said why you felt the Spiritualist Church was not for you. I'd be interested to know.

onetwothreehello · 27/10/2024 08:58

'He was and is in complete unity with God' that should be in my earlier post.

Feelingathomenow · 27/10/2024 14:12

onetwothreehello · 27/10/2024 08:56

@Feelingathomenow you never said why you felt the Spiritualist Church was not for you. I'd be interested to know.

It’s often difficult to mix practices/systems- sometimes things might slot in whole or part, other times not - this time it was not but interesting nevertheless

Feelingathomenow · 27/10/2024 14:13

onetwothreehello · 27/10/2024 08:58

'He was and is in complete unity with God' that should be in my earlier post.

And so are we. Maybe Jesus can’t to save humanity by reminding us what we are

Feelingathomenow · 27/10/2024 14:44

Feelingathomenow · 27/10/2024 14:13

And so are we. Maybe Jesus can’t to save humanity by reminding us what we are

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onetwothreehello · 27/10/2024 15:52

And so are we. Maybe Jesus can’t to save humanity by reminding us what we are

@Feelingathomenow, why the conflict and difficult with mixing different practices and systems then? If it is just we've 'forgotten' to be in unity why would you find difficulty with anything you came across? You'd just slip into unity, find your place and be at peace with the differences you came across...

onetwothreehello · 27/10/2024 16:02

@Feelingathomenow

But anyway if you are believing Jesus came to remind 'us what we are' then why would you pursue anything spiritually or otherwise that takes the focus away from Jesus or conflicts with what He said and did/does and Who He is.

Feelingathomenow · 27/10/2024 16:03

onetwothreehello · 27/10/2024 15:52

And so are we. Maybe Jesus can’t to save humanity by reminding us what we are

@Feelingathomenow, why the conflict and difficult with mixing different practices and systems then? If it is just we've 'forgotten' to be in unity why would you find difficulty with anything you came across? You'd just slip into unity, find your place and be at peace with the differences you came across...

That’s not how it works though. Whilst we are navigating the illusory world of separation then we have to speak the language of separation in order to explore that world. It’s a language and philosophy.

Feelingathomenow · 27/10/2024 16:07

onetwothreehello · 27/10/2024 16:02

@Feelingathomenow

But anyway if you are believing Jesus came to remind 'us what we are' then why would you pursue anything spiritually or otherwise that takes the focus away from Jesus or conflicts with what He said and did/does and Who He is.

Because, in part, orthodox Christianity has diluted and twisted everything so much. Not all of Jesus’s teaching remains. It’s good to explore concepts on your own.

Why are you certain that following a religion which has at times been so evil you would rapidly conclude it was sent by Satan. A religion that has be so manipulated for material gains.why do you think you’re chosen for living in a relatively small amount of time in history and a particular geographical location.

onetwothreehello · 27/10/2024 16:11

@Feelingathomenow,

Whilst we are navigating the illusory world of separation then we have to speak the language of separation in order to explore that world. It’s a language and philosophy.

What if we are less concerned with exploring the illusory world of separation and more concerned with exploring unity with God? To enter into the unified state surely we need to lose the language and philosophy of separation?

Feelingathomenow · 27/10/2024 16:15

onetwothreehello · 27/10/2024 16:11

@Feelingathomenow,

Whilst we are navigating the illusory world of separation then we have to speak the language of separation in order to explore that world. It’s a language and philosophy.

What if we are less concerned with exploring the illusory world of separation and more concerned with exploring unity with God? To enter into the unified state surely we need to lose the language and philosophy of separation?

Because we’ve been put into this illusionary world for a purpose.

onetwothreehello · 27/10/2024 16:22

Because, in part, orthodox Christianity has diluted and twisted everything so much. Not all of Jesus’s teaching remains. It’s good to explore concepts on your own.

@Feelingathomenow, by engaging our faith in Christ Himself through prayer and other Christian religious practices we have direct access to God (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) at source.

It is my faith in Jesus Christ that makes me Christian not participation in any particular church services..although I do participate because of my faith but other people do church differently to me and that can work too (in terms of the Christian faith if it fits with Jesus' teachings).

onetwothreehello · 27/10/2024 16:23

Because we’ve been put into this illusionary world for a purpose

@Feelingathomenow, to learn how to be in unity with God?

Feelingathomenow · 27/10/2024 16:28

onetwothreehello · 27/10/2024 16:22

Because, in part, orthodox Christianity has diluted and twisted everything so much. Not all of Jesus’s teaching remains. It’s good to explore concepts on your own.

@Feelingathomenow, by engaging our faith in Christ Himself through prayer and other Christian religious practices we have direct access to God (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) at source.

It is my faith in Jesus Christ that makes me Christian not participation in any particular church services..although I do participate because of my faith but other people do church differently to me and that can work too (in terms of the Christian faith if it fits with Jesus' teachings).

Well I don’t believe the Christian Chirch has been following Jesus’s teachings. If a person wanted to follow Christ I would think the Christian church is the last place they would go

Feelingathomenow · 27/10/2024 16:29

onetwothreehello · 27/10/2024 16:23

Because we’ve been put into this illusionary world for a purpose

@Feelingathomenow, to learn how to be in unity with God?

Not entirely

onetwothreehello · 27/10/2024 16:43

Well I don’t believe the Christian Chirch has been following Jesus’s teachings. If a person wanted to follow Christ I would think the Christian church is the last place they would go

@Feelingathomenow, oh. And where do you think the first place they would go would be?

Not entirely

So care to elaborate on the rest?

Feelingathomenow · 27/10/2024 17:10

onetwothreehello · 27/10/2024 16:43

Well I don’t believe the Christian Chirch has been following Jesus’s teachings. If a person wanted to follow Christ I would think the Christian church is the last place they would go

@Feelingathomenow, oh. And where do you think the first place they would go would be?

Not entirely

So care to elaborate on the rest?

“And where do you think the first place they would go would be?”

Luke 17:20-21

King James Version

20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

So care to elaborate on the rest? No, that is something you need to figure out for yourself

onetwothreehello · 27/10/2024 17:34

@Feelingathomenow, so you got that from what Jesus said and was recorded in the King James Bible. And of course I know the 'within you' bit. Discerning which bit of me belongs with The Kingdom of Heaven and which can be let go of /changed/ refined involves looking at more of what Jesus had to say and what He did though.