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Any Witches here? Part 20

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speakout · 16/02/2024 12:56

Or Wiccans. or Pagans? Or anyone who is interested in a magical path or feels some magical stirrings.
A place for support, learning, swapping ideas and magical inspiration..
This is the 18th thread- anyone looking for a deep dive into juicy magical topics may like to browse previous threads.....
It is a long list!!
Part 1 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3241689-Any-witches-here?pg=1
Part 2
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Part 3
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Part 4
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Part5
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Part 6 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3482023-Any-Witches-Here-Part-6?pg=1
Part 7 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3520269-Any-Witches-Here-Part-7?pg=1
Part 8 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/a3568622-Any-Witches-Here-Part-8?pg=1
Part 9 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3637696-Any-Witches-Here-Part-9?pg=1
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Part 12
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Part 13 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/4116107-Any-Witches-here-Part-13
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Hedjwitch · 17/08/2024 12:27

Thank you speakout that was kind of you. I need all the help I can get at the moment.

queenrollo · 18/08/2024 07:31

Morning all. I haven’t posted in a while, I just continue to feel overwhelmed by life. Changes happening which only mean further compromises from my end. Yet more loss of the things I want to do. It’s increasingly hard to be pragmatic about it. I am shutting down and withdrawing which is not good.
I am posting from my holiday bed, made the best I could have of the week but I hate being away from home. Husband and son had a great time full of things they enjoy. It has mainly highlighted how much my body is failing me, and I cannot get my bloody GP to grasp what I am saying when I try to explain it!
I am 40 years younger than my mother in law and despite her own health issues she coped better with a hilly walk around an attraction than me. I came back to the flat and cried!
Oh well, it’s our last day. Tomorrow makes me anxious as I really hate travelling too. I will be SO glad to get home tomorrow evening.

Craftycorvid · 18/08/2024 07:42

@queenrollo Sorry your holiday has not been much of a break for you. The fact you prefer bring at home speaks volumes in itself, as well as the fact that you’ve struggled to do things because other people enjoy them. What gives you the sort of break you need? And is there a possibility of getting that break before the end of the season?

I’m midway through a ‘staycation’ -two weeks off work and a few nice days out, plus catching up at home. I’d like to go away for a holiday but circumstances mean it would be a lot of organising for not much holidaying.

queenrollo · 18/08/2024 08:37

@Craftycorvid my perfect holiday would be my DH taking our DS away for a week and leaving me home alone! I could just get up/go to bed at will. Just cook for me. Garden or craft without being interrupted at all!
I enjoy gigs and festivals and unfortunately the move to secondary school in September renders most of that impossible, because it becomes logistically impossible to do them. His primary school were generally quite forgiving of us taking him out of school to facilitate it (it’s because childcare is complicated) but his secondary won’t be at all.
I am incredibly resentful because the plan was to Home Educate so we got the best of all worlds. It doesn’t bother my DH and DS as they have other interests, but almost none of mine are compatible with the restrictions of schooling.
2 years of therapy didn’t really help me come to terms with it, and now there is a suggestion that as well as having ADHD I may well be autistic too - but I have no hope of a diagnosis for either any time soon!

Craftycorvid · 18/08/2024 09:24

@queenrollo that all sounds so frustrating! Is it possible that your partner could take your son out for a couple of days away, if not a week, or even a few days out so you can do what works for you at home? You sound as if you have to make lots of compromises regarding your own needs and that leads (for all of us) to resentment and feeling down. Being neurodivergent is a full-time job in itself before we factor in other people!

queenrollo · 18/08/2024 10:20

@Craftycorvid to my husband’s credit he’s very good at taking our son out so I get some peace. They are actually planning a trip to France at some point, to visit the battlefields - I will stay at home! That’s possibly next summer.
We have a campervan too, so a couple of nights away in that is feasible (for them) but summer has just gone by so quickly!

As for managing being neurodivergent, my perimenopause has ‘undone’ me I think. Never before have I felt so deeply the injustice of things or such struggled so much to ‘understand’ rules which seem utterly bizarre to me and completely normal to most people.

Stepbreathesweep · 18/08/2024 18:00

Shy hello 👋..... I have just spent my holiday reading the past posts and wondered if I could join in? Apologies for long post, but this has been brewing for a while!

For the past few years I have been drawn to the history of witches and have devoured books about witch trials. And then I discovered these threads and some things have started coming together.

I am very much drawn to the moon and to grounding myself in the garden. The first thing I do when I get home is whip off my shoes and socks and sink my feet into the grass. I already have some crystals and regularly cleanse them in a full moon. I have also been known to leaving crystals places with an intent on them. These things have all been gathering pace pretty much since I turned 40.

Amazingly I have just discovered a shop has recently opened nearby which sells all things witchy and even has circle sessions advertised.

I know my dad has always referred to my great grandma as a 'white witch' but then almost freaks himself out and won't talk about her (oh how I wish I had met her!!!). Other than that, I have had a pretty conservative upbringing and anything 'alternative' has been very much squashed by my family.

I need to be careful to take this awakening at my own pace and try not to jump in at the deep end without the understanding and would very much value the guidance of more experienced witches that this thread seems to offer.

If you are still reading - thank you!!!

Hedjwitch · 18/08/2024 20:16

Sending love Queen Rollo. Struggling here too. Perhaps the Sturgeon moon tomorrow will shift this horrible negative energy.

A warm welcome to step. Come in to the best thread on MN and meet your sisters. Take it as slowly as you like. We are all learning here and follow different paths but are kindred spirits.

Craftycorvid · 18/08/2024 21:13

Evening, sisters! Been treated to the loveliest spectacle this evening - a dusk flurry of bats dancing and whirling in the garden. Summoned Mr Crafty and we enjoyed marvelling at the agility and speed with which the bats flew around. Much better than TV! I hope it’s a joyous omen.

Stepbreathesweep · 19/08/2024 17:23

Thank you @Hedjwitch! Have had a lovely quiet day today. Am currently on holiday so had the time to indulge in some meditation and a full moon flow yoga session with my DD. 🌝

VioletCharlotte · 19/08/2024 22:26

Full moon blessings sisters. It's too cloudy to see the moon tonight, but I can feel her energy ⚡️
It's starting to feel autumnal here. Later than usual, I normally start to sense the shift at the beginning of August but July was such a wash out, August has felt more like summer this year. Today though, it's been cloudy all day and it was dark at 8.45. I'm starting to look forward to September and October, always my favourite months!

Queenrollo sending supportive energy your way. Being a mother is hard, we have to let go of so many parts of ourselves when we become parents. I can understand how Tories feeling, it's tough to not be able to do the things you love and bring you so much joy. The school years will pass quickly though and you'll soon have more freedom and time for you 

@Craftycorvid lovely to hear about the bats!

@Stepbreathesweep welcome! I've been to a full
Moon yoga flow this evening too. It was lovely and calming, which is good as I can get a bit manic on a full moon 🤣

Hedjwitch · 20/08/2024 08:50

Anyone else feel a massive shift in energy? Everything seems clearer and lighter. Even my fibro pain is reduced.
It was cloudy last night but I left a gap in the curtains anyway and woke briefly during the night to see the Moon shining in on me. So I greeted her and went back into a really deep sleep.

Stepbreathesweep · 20/08/2024 10:29

@Hedjwitch how lovely to have the moon shining on you when you woke up! I'm feeling peaceful today. I went to a market and bought beautiful citrine and aventurine crystals which made me feel happy.

@VioletCharlotte thank you for your warm welcome!

Am coming to the end of my holiday and my mind is beginning to turn to new intentions for the autumn. Need to try to make sure I carve out space for things like baking and journaling to keep this peaceful feeling going!

speakout · 20/08/2024 16:05

queenrollo the menopause affected me in a similar way. As if I had been wearing blinkers all my life and suddenly they were gone- I had a new ability to see into the heart of matters and people.
I am glad you enjoyed the bat display Craftycorvid- seeing wildlife like this gives me hope that the heart of our planet still beats strongly.
I am happy you have joined us, Stepbreathesweep - always lovely to have new friends. You are wise to travel at your own pace, but we all have different paths- there are no "rules"! I look forward to hearing more about your family, life and practice.
Good to hear things have improved for you Hedjwitch, it must be a relief to feel a bit better.
My DD came over unexpectedly yesterday and spent some time doing couples/partner yoga as an experiment. It was hard, and much of the time we spent in a crumpled pile on the floor in a giggle fit. It was so good to play.

I went to a full moon woman's circle last night- it was very intense, very powerful. We were led through a soul retrieval ceremony, some of us were wailing, beating fists,most of us were in tears. But we reached out and found missing parts that we had abandoned, or had been stolen in our lives- so healing. I slept well but have been totally exhausted all day. I am just back from a Gestalt therapy session where we worked more on the same theme- more tears- and laughter!
I am now so tired, but calm. I stopped on the way home to buy nourishing food for myself, some healthy but easy things to eat. I plan very little this evening.

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kfellover · 20/08/2024 19:51

@speakout it’s very similar here, I usually enjoy being in the hustle and bustle but I’m feeling really uneasy in large crowds now that I’m heavily pregnant and unsteady on my feet, so I tend to avoid going into the centre as much as I can.

@Hedjwitch I understand how draining going NC can be, even though you don’t have to contact that person anymore it seems they take up a lot of headspace, even more than when you had contact with them!. I’m happy to hear that you’re feeling better, I have also noticed a shift.

There are a few women’s circles near me but I’m nervous about signing up, I don’t know if I have much of worth to share with people. I’m quite solitary with my practice, I’d like to be more open with it but I suppose I’m worried I’ll say the wrong thing or I’m doing it wrong, but I also know it could be really rewarding.

speakout · 21/08/2024 15:12

kfellover I have been to a few women's circles recently at two different venues and they vary from each other. I know there are several sisters here who also attend similar events.
Overall there are similarities- every meeting has wonderful women in attendance. Most come alone and everyone is seeking some healing and very warm hearted to each other and newcomers.
Although there is talk within the group and introductions it is absolutely OK to say very little. Just a "I am kfellover, I'm new to the group and here to find out more" Some women do want to share - and that's OK too- often opening up to speak about pain or difficult circumstances- with many tears.
There will be no pushing to share if that is not OK with you- it is entirely your call and no-one will think less of you.

Sometimes I share sometimes not. The circle I attended on Monday was quite large I am finding that with larger groups the individual speaking time is shorter, and possible less intense- because of time constraints.

I didn't want to share too much on Monday- I knew one woman from my yoga class, and another had attended the last circle, I know the facilitator, but the rest were strangers.
When it was my turn to speak I simply spoke of " difficult circumstances" in my life and that I was there as part of my healing journey.
There is no "wrong" thing to say or do, all your words and feeling will be accepted and understood.

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kfellover · 22/08/2024 13:16

@speakout thank you for explaining how circles usually go. It’s really made me feel more at ease about signing up for one. I’ve got some pretty huge changes coming up and I want to make sure that I’m still making time for me and that I have someplace like a circle to go to. I will look at signing up to one, there’s so much stuff like that near me as I live near quite a popular place for pagans/witches, it was a big reason why we moved here and then I’ve never actually utilised it!.

It’s feeling so autumnal here. I’m looking forward to crisp autumn days and seeing the leaves change, I find autumn so beautiful, but I am mourning summer. I feel like I haven’t been able to do half of what we had planned, hopefully next year we will be able to get away and do more.

It is my birthday tomorrow and I have no plans for it, I’m expecting my first baby at the end of the month so my family aren’t travelling down to visit on my birthday as they are waiting until the baby is born to visit and don’t want to make the trip so many times close together as we live a couple of hours away. I’m not upset about it but I do feel a bit deflated, DH will be working and so will our friends who live nearby. I think I will spend the day in the garden if the weather is good for it. I am excited as I know DH has got me some of the books that were recommended here, so I’m looking forward to reading those!.

I hope everyone is having a lovely day.

queenrollo · 23/08/2024 12:17

@kfellover Happy Birthday 🎂
it’s my birthday too!

Stepbreathesweep · 23/08/2024 14:49

I know I'm new here but happy birthday @queenrollo & @kfellover ! Hope you are treating yourselves or being treated today.

Flying home tomorrow after a lovely holiday. Am excited and a bit anxious about returning to reality.....

kfellover · 23/08/2024 15:04

@queenrollo ah thank you! Happy birthday to you too❤️. Are you a Leo or a Virgo if you don’t mind me asking?, growing up depending on what magazine I was reading my star sign would always change😂. But I found out that from my time and place of birth I am a Leo, which feels about right for me!.

@Stepbreathesweep thank you!!. I’m new too, I came in asking for book recommendations but I’ve stayed for the chat!. I’m glad your holidays been lovely, I do get the mixed feeling about returning home. I always love being back to the comfort of my house but not the reality of life!.

I have took myself out into town today, I’ve mooched around the shops and got myself some herbs from my favourite shop. We will be going out for a meal when DH finishes work.

speakout · 23/08/2024 18:43

Happy birthday queenrollo and kfellover= I hope you have had days that you have enjoyed.
I must admit I am not a fan of bithdays-especially my own. I struggle to get over the mountains of gifts that my mother gives to me literally 50 or so; boxes of cheap stuff, Baliss and Harding gift sets, wall plaques with You "don't have to be mad to live live here but it helps. She gas given me in the past a new toilet seat, new pegs for hanging laundry,dish detergent, second hant record of Sydney devine, a moisturiser for skn that shows bad signs of aging.
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Stepbreathesweep · 23/08/2024 20:35

@kfellover yes - I have been trawling through the previous posts too to find good books. I thought I would take some previous advice though and let books find me. So I'm going to visit the local charity shops and library next week and see what happens!

Interestingly it was my birthday recently and I am also a Leo!

Craftycorvid · 24/08/2024 07:12

Happy days to those celebrating birthdays. 💐

@speakout your mum’s birthday ‘gifts’ are a bit…..eccentric! Enough to run your own tombola. I can imagine what it’s like to get so much stuff you neither want nor need. There’s something very disconcerting about gifts that suggest the giver doesn’t know us at all.

I’m off out for a day with a friend, hopefully charity shopping and general mooching in a ‘posh town’ near where she lives. Mr C has a friend coming over to see him as well as his support worker. He will still wail about being cruelly abandoned but my sanity matters! 😵‍💫😆 Bright Saturdays, one and all!

speakout · 24/08/2024 08:07

Craftycorvid I think you have hit the nail on the head.

"I can imagine what it’s like to get so much stuff you neither want nor need. There’s something very disconcerting about gifts that suggest the giver doesn’t know us at all."

This is exactly how I feel. I gran inwardly when I see my mother bringing several bags of black bin liners stuffed full of gifts on my birthday.
It makes me uncomfortable and I have to spend an hour unwrapping her gifts with a smile on my face- the whole family watching, and I feel obliged to say "Oh that's lovely", "That will be handy" or "just what I need", whlle cringing inside.
She does the same at christmas time too, although that is a bit easier as everyone is opening gifts- so not so much pressure on me.
I know my daughter really dislikes it too, and she makes eye contact to me that says "please get rid of this for me".
So once gifts are opened I take a few huge bags and fill the boot of my car.
I then take them to food banks, a woman's rescue centre or a charity shop.

It's such a waste of money. My close family give me only a few gifts, but ones they have thought of, and show that they understand and listen to me. The gifts are usually inexpensive, but very meaningful, and my heart is truly touched -I feel understood at a deep level and loved.

I have tried to talk to my mother about it, but it falls on deaf ears. She thinks that opening mountain of presents is "such fun", and "who doesn't like gifts?" and that I am "such an ungrateful daughter". I don't want to upset her and have tried to be tactful suggesting that "we should all cut down on gift numbers this year". But she is an expert flouncer and door slammer.

Sorry for the rant!!

Just off for a rose and geranium spa shower then onto Body Balance.

Bright Blessings friends.

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Stepbreathesweep · 24/08/2024 19:09

@sspeakout at least you send the oodles of gifts to new homes!

I am also a receiver of odd presents from my parents. It's not the quantity so much and the randomness of them. One year I was given a machine to vacuum pack food so I could store it in the freezer. Like when you see vacuum pack meat in the shops. Anyone who knows me would never give this to me! I hate all things plastic, I haven't eaten meat for over 30 years and I would never have time for this!!!! On this occasion I fessed up and said I won't ever use this and she would be better to get her money back..

Tbh I find birthdays and Christmas difficult. The huge consumerism and buying for the sake of buying makes me feel uncomfortable. I'm like you, @sspeakout, much rather something homemade, a charity shop find or just a really thoughtful little thing.

Back home from hols today. The house didn't feel very welcoming at all. I walked in and felt cold. The first thing I did was light candles and open windows. Then I spent the whole afternoon cleaning and dusting.

Now relaxing in a lavender bath and feeling much more settled.....

Hope everyone is having a lovely weekend?