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Any Witches here? Part 20

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speakout · 16/02/2024 12:56

Or Wiccans. or Pagans? Or anyone who is interested in a magical path or feels some magical stirrings.
A place for support, learning, swapping ideas and magical inspiration..
This is the 18th thread- anyone looking for a deep dive into juicy magical topics may like to browse previous threads.....
It is a long list!!
Part 1 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3241689-Any-witches-here?pg=1
Part 2
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3338025-Any-Witches-Here-Part-2?pg=1
Part 3
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3366411-Any-Witches-Here-Part-3?pg=1
Part 4
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Part5
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3437092-Any-Witches-Here-Part-5?pg=1
Part 6 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3482023-Any-Witches-Here-Part-6?pg=1
Part 7 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3520269-Any-Witches-Here-Part-7?pg=1
Part 8 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/a3568622-Any-Witches-Here-Part-8?pg=1
Part 9 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3637696-Any-Witches-Here-Part-9?pg=1
Part 10
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3726266-Any-Witches-Here-Part-10
Part 11
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3850635-Any-Witches-Here-Part-11
Part 12
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3997761-Any-Witches-Here-Part-12
Part 13 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/4116107-Any-Witches-here-Part-13
Part 14www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/4213962-Any-Witches-Here-Part-14
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Hedjwitch · 18/05/2024 21:17

Thank you Magrat.
I feel very peaceful tonight as I sit by the embers,listening to the blackbird singing.
Time to move on.

speakout · 19/05/2024 08:32

That's beautiful Hedjwitch I am glad your rituals brought you some calm.

Rituals speak to our subconscious mind in a very powerful way, which I think goes some way to explaining magical theory.
I have known for a long time that we have different aspects to our mind and the way it functions- and still on a quest to gain more understanding in an effort to tame my own dragons.
The amygdala is part of our limbic system, an older part of our brain in evolutionary terms, often referred to as our reptilian brain and serves to alert us to danger, fuels our emotions, functions behind the scenes, resides in ur subconscious, holds long term memory and set off our sympathetic nervous response in response to danger. Absolutely essential to our safety and low level functioning, also is where our "inner child" resides. Despite holding our long term memories the limbic has no awareness of time.

I am not a psychotherapist nor have any expert knowledge in any of this, and I know the subject is vast- and is debated by professionals- who often disagree.
I have found it very useful to learn about some of this to inform my own healing.

Our "thinking brain" or higher executive function is the day to day, and is in contact with our limbic system, but many of us have some degree of connective dysfunction between the two parts.
Our limbic system doesn't respond to words, and we can't think our way out of emotional discomfort, so learning the language of the limbic is useful to know.

If we learn the language of the limbic then we have greater ability to bring calm., ease discomfort, anxiety, have control over triggers.

Our subconscious/limbic understands touch, scent, music, physical touch, music, song, warmth, light levels, hugs from others, massage, EFT, looking at beauty, watching flames, connecting with others,, rmovement of our bodies, comfort, repetition of a mantra, visualisation, meditation, ceremony and ritual- and I believe also the seat of magic- at least within our own bodies. The catholic church understands this to great effect.

Our limbic system is very powerful- and can bring about great changes, but it has a child like understanding of the world, will respond to fears and stress even if they are in the past but we are dwelling on an event,, it will flood our system with adrenalin and cortisol, even if a threat isn't actually happening in that moment.Our limbic system also houses our creativity, playfulness, home of the muse and all versions of our past selves, including our inner child.

Many psychotherapy modalities will support clients towards so called "integration" as a healing goal bringing forth all that is good and helpful from our inner child, but with safety that our adult mind will take care of and protect our vulnerable aspects.

Our bodies are also tied up in this too, it can hold stress and anxiety- but that is a whole other worm hole!! Spirituality is also a huge impact on my life too- but again another worm hole.

As I said earlier I am not an expert in any of this, just parts of my own story and healing journey.
It has been helpful to know a little about how my mind works because I now have a good tool box, I have learned to manage and protect my feelings, and deal with things before they escalate,

I would love to hear anyone's thoughts on how you steer and navigate!

I am just about to start my own morning rituals which are pleasant, but also nourish my inner self by my actions, creating feelings of safety, comfort, reassurance and familiarity. My inner child will respond by settling in to her cozy spot, she will point out the bird song, remind me that it is good to play, and life is not all about the practical adult stuff.

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speakout · 19/05/2024 08:36

On another note does anyone have recipes for shower steamers/fizzers?

I have used bought ones, but I would love to make my own with favourite fragrances and charge them with magical intention.

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MaculataO · 19/05/2024 10:21

@Hedjwitch so glad that the rituals could bring some calm to you.
@speakout I find this stuff so interesting too. I wish I could find ways to sort my buzzing brain which is eternally on fire. My body is always reacting from that fear and stress place. Even now as I sit while baby naps. It's already looking forward to our car journey this afternoon and 'what bad things could happen'. Why not let it all just unfold. That's what DH manages!

Would love to bring some ritual back into my life. I embark on a pottery course soon and hope to imbue what I make with intention and go from there.

speakout · 19/05/2024 13:17

MaculataO rumination or hamster wheeling is very common I think.
Having a need to control comes from fear and anxiety, our desire to be safe.

And while preparing for the future is important, most of it is outwith our control, and trying to have contingency plans for every possible outcome is exhausting, and actually not even be useful.
Fears and anxieties need to be acknowledged, they come from a place that needs reassurance and a feeling of safety.

Trying to push them away may feel like the best thing to do in the short term, but they will re-emerge again, and possibly in a different form. Anxiety can be exhausting.
Even as adults our brains have neuroplasticity, it is absolutely possible to change our coping mechanisms. even if it feels that we are stuck or such thinking is part of our make up.
It is absolutely possible to change

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Craftycorvid · 19/05/2024 18:51

@Hedjwitch that’s a beautiful ritual. ‘All hail the traveller!’

@speakout you seem to know a lot more than most psychotherapists I’ve dallied with. I love the way you write.

My day was busy, but there was a walk in the park, too.

speakout · 22/05/2024 07:33

Craftycorvid thank you. That's a kind thing to say.
I have struggled with anxiety since childhood, and have had little understanding in the workings of the mind.

When I started serious psychotherapy I realised that I had to up my knowledge in order to understand my inner workings and allow changes to happen.
Although my healing centered around my emotional and subconscious, I needed to know some theory and ideas in order to bring about healing.

My therapy and implementation of the work has been totally transformative, and I look forward to the future with a healthier version of myself- and still more positive changes ahead. My family have noticed a change , too- relationships with my loved ones have been impacted too.

I will be starting another block of therapy soon, and although can be challenging and I am apprehensive I am excited to move forward on my healing path.

The moon in Scorpio today assists deep diving into our depths- whether shadow work, scrying or divination there is an opportunity to find sunken treasure

Any Witches here? Part 20
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speakout · 25/05/2024 11:38

I hope everyone is having a good weekend.
We have had torrential rain all week here, roads flooded, trees down, rivers bursting.
I attempted to travel to my Full Moon women's circle on Thursday- a 12 mile drive. It took me an hour to travel three miles, main roads were closed, several incidents, flooding, some trees down.
I had to admit defeat and headed home. I set myself up a meditation space with blankets and candles and enjoyed a quiet evening of simple ceremony, journalling and warm cacao while listening to the drumming of the rain against the windows. So all was not lost.
Have a magical weekend sisters

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speakout · 26/05/2024 09:46

Can I have a little hand hold- DM has collapsed overnight and ambulanced to hospital. I have just popped home to get her stuff/medication etc before heading back to hospital. She is 90, had a stroke last year and quite frail.

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ISaySteadyOn · 26/05/2024 10:02

Hand held and positive energies for you and your mum sent in your directionFlowers.

And a picture of flowers because beauty helps.

Any Witches here? Part 20
queenrollo · 26/05/2024 13:59

Sending supportive energy to you @speakout

Hedjwitch · 26/05/2024 14:04

Sending support. Hope your MiL is ok.
I'm at a bit of a loss what to do with myself. Pissing down outside so dont fancy gardening.

Have got so used to spending the weekends looking after mum that I seem to have time on my hands now she's gone.

speakout · 26/05/2024 15:59

Thanks for the support and energy. . We arrived at the hospital in the middle of the night, I am back home after sitting with my mum for 10 hours in A&E while she lay on a trolley in the corridor.
She is much perkier, they have ruled out a stroke or heart problem, but still unable to stand unsupported-looks like a postural blood pressure thing.
So she has been admitted to spend at least one night in the hospital while they do more tests and have OT assessement.

After a stressful and worrying day it is a relief to be back home and know that she is in the safest hands.

I did buy myself some goodies from an M&S food store within the hospital as I was leaving, so will chill this evening while eating my healthy/tasty/juicy food.
A gift to myself for holding it all together today and using some of my new but effective anxiety coping skills in a tricky situation.

Hedjwitch I hope your day has been ok x

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Hedjwitch · 26/05/2024 16:53

Sorry,Speakout. I meant your mum,not your MiL.

Probablymagrat · 26/05/2024 17:25

Sending strength, calm and fortitude @speakout for you and your mum. I hope they get to the bottom of it, and she returns home soon. I will remember you both in my 8 O'clock candle.

MaculataO · 26/05/2024 20:55

huge support to you @speakout Big virtual hugs.

Craftycorvid · 26/05/2024 21:27

Sending support @speakout

SeaEssence · 27/05/2024 07:22

Back after a while, lots to catch up on here I see!

@speakout sending lots of strength and support. And healing energy to your DM.

@Hedjwitch beautiful ritual, glad you got to do what felt right.

We're in Dartmoor for a long weekend of walking. Well needed, I feel like I'm releasing a lot of tension and negativity from the last 2-or-so weeks. DS is getting some time off screen, much needed, I know it's inevitable but I find it difficult to keep screen time at check these days.

VioletCharlotte · 27/05/2024 21:55

Playing catch up here.

@speakout sending love and strength to both you and your DM. I remember that she was in hospital for some time after the stroke last year and what a challenging time that was for you all. It's so hard when loved ones are ill and waiting for test results can seem to take an age. Please lean on us all for support during this time.

@Hedjwitch sending love to you as well. I hope this weekend has been ok for you.

I saw these flowers everywhere when I was driving today (does anyone know what they are?) Sharing a pic as I agree with @ISaySteadyOn that beauty always helps

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Cherryblossom24 · 28/05/2024 17:05

I think I have just found my people 🙂.

I can’t say I’m a witch or Wiccan, but the subject has always fascinated me. I have always been drawn to the sun, moon and stars, particularly the moon. When I was a child I would forever sit in front of the fire watching the flames, to see what I could see. I have at times found myself thinking of something….a song, a film, a person that I haven’t seen or heard for a while, and then I would see or hear the song/film or see the person.

I am drawn to crystals, but don’t have any as I was always told by my ex husband it was rubbish.
This may sound very silly but I have had dreams which have come true, and I can wake during the night scared for some reason 🤷🏻‍♀️.

i was once told I did have a gift, although whether this is true or not, I don’t know.

I look forward to reading all the threads, but would love to read more about this so if anyone can recommend any books I would be so grateful.

hilariousnamehere · 28/05/2024 20:30

Sending love @speakout and hope your mum is doing ok, and you too.

More love @Hedjwitch - how are you doing?

@Craftycorvid how are you and Mr C getting on? Meant to ask in my last update. I hope you're getting some time for yourself too.

I missed so much while life was silly 😭

Welcome @Cherryblossom24 , this is the loveliest corner of the entire internet! Will try and list some books later when cat familiar #1 has removed herself from my lap 😂

It's been a things-breaking few weeks, with dishwashers, freezers, cars and teeth all having moments, but in the grand scheme of things they're small, just annoying and expensive.

I've been spending as much time as I can in my studio and the first art trail there where lots of us in the village open to the public was wonderful, if also exhausting. Everyone loved my magical hare except one lady who was very sniffy about the fact I'd added the moon to the photograph - she doesn't approve of digital art, apparently. I was very proud that I just nodded and smiled rather than taking it horribly personally!

My little spell candles and the holders I made are working well but I never have time to breathe these days - next stop is trying to get a bit more of a routine around the madness that is caring and self employment - could do with income being a bit steadier!

Sending love and magic to all of you and hope your week is peaceful and positive x

speakout · 30/05/2024 11:30

A warm welcome Cherryblossom24, I am glad you have joined us,

Thanks for all the healing and supportive energy everyone, I can feel the strength you are sending.

My mum is doing OK, stroke or heart problems have been ruled out, but she is having severe drops in blood pressure when she moves from lying to sitting and standing and is quite wobbly when she walks.
My mum is one of these peoplem who seems to enjoy hospital, she spends hours having chit chat with other patients and staff.
Despite that she is keen to come home, she has told the team that I will be able to manage to take her to her frequent night toilet visits, make and bring her meals on a tray, help her wash and dress, keep uo with her laundry etc.

That is not happening. My OH works in Ireland mon-friday, I work full time ( from home) and am also a carer for my adult son who liives with me.

I remember being in a similar situation last year after my mother had a stroke, so at least this time I feel better prepared.

I had a long meeting with the geriatric team yesterday- there were tears on my part- but I felt very understood. My mother hasn't finished treatment at the hospital yet, but looking likely she may be moved to a convalescence centre to continue recovery.

I am staying calm because I know where my boundaries lie.
I am not prepared to have my life consumed by the needs of others.

Apologies for the rant!

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Probablymagrat · 30/05/2024 14:29

Don't apologise for the rant, it was obviously much needed. Life is handing you a lot of challenges lately.

I think you are doing the right thing, your mum will benefit from a bit of rehab, and you need to stick to realistic boundaries.

You can't pour from an empty jug, you need to take care of yourself first.

Love and strength to you. x

SeaEssence · 30/05/2024 20:29

@speakout glad your DM is better, and that she's getting care she needs. Setting boundaries is the most reasonable thing you could have done, not just for yourself but your DM and other family members too. It may not be what she wants, but it's the best course of action to keep the family safe and functioning. No one would benefit from your burnout.

Catching up I saw someone was looking for a recipe for shower steamers? Any luck? I tried but have not had success, I'd love to make some.

On another note, on my travels I came across a spiritual shop where you could fill a small pouch with crystals out of a large crate and pay for the pouch. I obviously didn't resist - but ended up with a variety of wonderful stones I can't identify. Do you recognise any of these, or know of a website/app that could help? I tried a few but no luck...they should be local to Rocky mountains but at the price I paid I'd not dare to vouch for authenticity...

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SeaEssence · 30/05/2024 20:30

Better close ups

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Any Witches here? Part 20