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Any Witches Here?- Part 18

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speakout · 11/01/2023 20:19

Or Wiccans. or Pagans? Or anyone who is interested in a magical path or feels some magical stirrings.
A place for support, learning, swapping ideas and magical inspiration..
This is the 17th thread- anyone looking for a deep dive into juicy magical topics may like to browse previous threads.....
It is a long list!!
Part 1 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3241689-Any-witches-here?pg=1
Part 2
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3338025-Any-Witches-Here-Part-2?pg=1
Part 3
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3366411-Any-Witches-Here-Part-3?pg=1
Part 4
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Part5
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3437092-Any-Witches-Here-Part-5?pg=1
Part 6 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3482023-Any-Witches-Here-Part-6?pg=1
Part 7 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3520269-Any-Witches-Here-Part-7?pg=1
Part 8 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/a3568622-Any-Witches-Here-Part-8?pg=1
Part 9 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3637696-Any-Witches-Here-Part-9?pg=1
Part 10
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3726266-Any-Witches-Here-Part-10
Part 11
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3850635-Any-Witches-Here-Part-11
Part 12
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3997761-Any-Witches-Here-Part-12
Part 13 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/4116107-Any-Witches-here-Part-13
Part 14www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/4213962-Any-Witches-Here-Part-14
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ISaySteadyOn · 19/04/2023 11:39

I think a shop's atmosphere is so important and I think it can change depending on the members of staff who are there.

I don't know whether I believe in auras or not but I do think people can give off energies.

Right now, I think I might be more positive. I am in the midst of transplanting seedlings but I have no idea what they are because I lost my gardening journal and forgot to label them. I decided not to despair and enjoy my mystery seedlings instead. They may all be wildflowers, they might be the chilis, or something I forgot I planted. I do not know. But it will be fun finding out. Also, as a result, I have fulfilled my ambition to fill all my pots. If I were to go into a shop, I think the atmosphere might get a bit of a positive charge as I am feeling so contented.

HazelTheGreenWitch · 19/04/2023 13:11

@ISaySteadyOn I love growing seeds and it is such a joy to watch them sprout then nuture them into plants. I often lose labels too so if you want any help with identifying mystery seedlings, post a picture on here and I'll give it my best guess!

speakout · 20/04/2023 08:34

Just dropping in to say hi, things are tough at the moment and my load is taking up almost every waking moment.
I hope today's new moon brings fresh light energy to everyone.

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ISaySteadyOn · 20/04/2023 09:29
Flowers

Things are tough here too. The positive energies I felt yesterday were illusory. 1 DC miserable at school, the other behaved appallingly at school and I felt such shame.

First DC, we have a plan, second one, I don't know. I am going to try to go out and be in the sun and hope I can bring the joy of that back and diffuse it through the house so everyone feels better.

1 useful thing I realised though is that I am not alone in dealing with the DCs education. I never have been. DH has always been willing to be assertive when I go diffident (still a schoolgirl in my head)but I never realised until now that I can actually ask him to do that when I need it. I think he's relieved that I figured that out. I guess that's a positive too. Hope you all have very good days.

queenrollo · 20/04/2023 09:49

@ISaySteadyOn dealing with school can be hard. I home educated my eldest and that was my plan for my youngest too but life threw us some circumstances which has meant he is at school. For my part I never saw the point of lots of arbitrary rules/approaches which don't actually make any positive difference to the learning experience. I'm a bit fiery, so my DH gets sent in to deal with any problems as he has a much more diplomatic approach than me. We're a pretty good team, when school need a fire lit under them I am the one who applies the match!

Sending love and nurturing energy to you @speakout

We're in the last two days of our Easter holidays, which has been a week longer than most of the other schools. I am loving the slower pace of not fitting two school runs into the day.
We have a night out on Friday, my DH is playing records at an event and then hopefully on Saturday we will be going to quite a big gig locally. DH has been interviewing some of the artists for his radio show. It's quite odd to be on first name and friendly terms with musicians that I really admired in my 20s!

HernamewasNOLA · 20/04/2023 17:07

Can I join you please?

speakout · 20/04/2023 17:21

HernamewasNOLA of course-no permission needed. You are welcome.
Always a cosy spot by the fire for newcomers, and happy you have dropped in.

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HernamewasNOLA · 21/04/2023 02:04

Thank you for the welcome. I’m so glad that I found this thread.

HazelTheGreenWitch · 21/04/2023 07:16

Hello @HernamewasNOLA 👋

Yesterday I was reminded of the power of incense for me. I do like to burn it indoors but it's a bit overpowering, so I tend to take it outside and put it next to plants that I'm nurturing. I love the smell of it drifting on the breeze. I suppose it could be called a ritual, I usually say something simple like 'grow well' to the plants as I put the incense in the soil. I will try to do this more often I think.

HernamewasNOLA · 21/04/2023 22:29

hazel I love using incense too. We live in an apartment with big doors onto a balcony so the burning it in our home isn’t too overpowering. But I also burn some next to me when I sometimes hand wash our clothes in the courtyard. It does feel like a ritual to me too.

hilariousnamehere · 22/04/2023 09:42

Good morning sisters! Sending big love to you @speakout and @ISaySteadyOn - wish I had more practical help to give but you're both in my thoughts.

Welcome @HernamewasNOLA!

I am having a little bit of quiet time setting intentions for the coming fortnight before my friends arrive for the weekend - I've not seen them since before covid so am excited and strangely nervous, and have an insane amount to pack into next week so thought I'd savour the quiet time now.

Have a wonderful weekend and hope you all get some time just for you, even while everything else is going on x

ISaySteadyOn · 23/04/2023 18:34

@queenrollo, we actually decided to home school eldest DC until we can find a better school. There's precedent in our family. DH was homeschooled.

And I am very lucky to have him. He has a knack for paying me compliments that could not be meant for anyone else. He gave me a lovely necklace with a leaf on it. I was telling him how much I loved it and he said 'Well, I thought it would go nicely with your geomaternal tendencies'
😁

speakout · 24/04/2023 07:43

Welcome to the week friends.
I'm still struggling a bit here, a lovely visit from DD, but she is unwell, working two jobs, hospital visiting my mother regularly.
We had planned to cook a new recipe together, but in the end I did it alone while she rested on the sofa under a blanket.
My work is backed up now, I have stacks to do,so can't afford the time to go to my Monday yoga class. Taking more time off work isn't an option either, fuel and other bills are sky high.
I feel spread very thinly, and notice I am quite snappy, particularly towards my OH, I am avoiding him as he gets ready for work. He is a lovely man, but often stuck in the 50s, thinking things will "work themselves out", and sits back while christmas magically happens all by itself.
I need to make a bit of space for at least some meditation today, I feel my mood has been in the doldrums for weeks now, and I don't want it to become entrenched.
Off for a hot shower, I was given some lovely "This Works" products and a Japanese rice water shampoo bar for my birthday last week.

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VioletCharlotte · 24/04/2023 08:53

Morning sisters, just flying in to catch up on thread and wish you all well for the week ahead.

@speakout that sounds tough. I'm sorry your DD is unwell and that your DP isn't being very helpful. Sadly, it does seem to be the case still that, without women driving things, very little happens when it comes to anything to do with the home, family and caring for loved ones. Do use this thread to vent, sometimes just sharing how you're feeling with people who understand and support you can help a bit. Sending loving energy your way.

speakout · 24/04/2023 09:48

Thank you VioletCharlotte , your words are like a balm to my soul. Thankyou for giving me permission to rant!
My mother is progressing well, still in hospital but can walk a little with a frame, but still needs help with showering etc. and can't walk stairs.
My DD is hoping that her gran will be discharged in the next week or two back home- and I am so fearful.
Many of you will know that I also care for my adult son who lives with me, I work full time- from home- and OH has a job that involves long hours and very frequent overnight trips.
I (like many of us) have to be mindful of my own MH, anxiety and low mood are things I have shared my life with for decades. I work hard to keep mentally bouyant, doing all the things to make sure I don't slip. But that takes time for myself and means I have to step back and make sure that my own well being is in a healthy place.
My home has very windey stairs, and my mother visits the toilet several times through the night.
I am not always at home, I have errands, post office visits every day, yoga and other activities.
My mother is a very socially gregarious woman, and her and I don't see eye to eye- but the thought of her coming home with such increased needs fill me with terror.
My DD has two jobs and lives 40 minutes away, and my OHs suggestion was to get a "special chair" for my mother.
I know my DD adores her gran and wants her home as soon as possible, but wont be involved in day to day care.
I know to my daughter I make looking after others easy, I don't burden her with my woes,
I will make some peppermint tea and have some mindful time.
One benefit is that I have lost half a stone in the past couple of weeks, stress and anxiety curb my appetite- so not all bad!

I know I am strong, I lnow I am capable, but is wanting some enjoyment in life too much to ask?

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ISaySteadyOn · 24/04/2023 10:29

Not at all. In fact, without enjoyment, it is much harder to do all the other things. I think you actively need it.

Sending love.

HillsBesideTheSea · 24/04/2023 20:06

Problem is if you do not say "I'm and struggling", "I can't do that" people don't know. I understand that your dd wants your mum out of hospital as soon as possible. They are not great places, but also they are the right place if you don't have the suitable environment for her current level of capability. Whilst you don't want to burdon your daughter, your daughter can't know the full situation if you don't tell her. It could just be a "i have concerns about grannie and the stairs when she comes home" if you can't say "right now i am struggling"

One thing i have done with the teen is let him know i have needs. When he was younger is was the fact that we both went into time out so that we could both calm our moods and i would say "you might be calm now, but i need a bit longer in time out" when i was still mad. I have had to say "I would love to do that but I don't have the energy today lets plan to do it another day". These days he knows when i am just done and will either come have a very sarcastic conversation with dark dark gallows humour or will just cook me some tea. I don't feel that communicating my needs is burdoning because there is no expectation from him other than patience and understanding. Well except on the days when he has to cook his own tea but he enjoys cooking stuff no one else can eat so that makes it more treat like.

As children we tend to think our parents are infallible, super human. Almost god like. or demon like in some cases And we don't understand their humanity. As adults we are able to see and understand. But without them saying we cannot fully know what a parent is going through. And the concerns of the stairs etc are very valid, burn out is very valid. Your daughter is likely to be mad at you if you don't say something and it all goes tits up. From what you say she has compassion and the ability to understand. Trust her a little in this.

BeautifulDayintheneighbourhood · 24/04/2023 20:23

HillsBesideTheSea · 24/04/2023 20:06

Problem is if you do not say "I'm and struggling", "I can't do that" people don't know. I understand that your dd wants your mum out of hospital as soon as possible. They are not great places, but also they are the right place if you don't have the suitable environment for her current level of capability. Whilst you don't want to burdon your daughter, your daughter can't know the full situation if you don't tell her. It could just be a "i have concerns about grannie and the stairs when she comes home" if you can't say "right now i am struggling"

One thing i have done with the teen is let him know i have needs. When he was younger is was the fact that we both went into time out so that we could both calm our moods and i would say "you might be calm now, but i need a bit longer in time out" when i was still mad. I have had to say "I would love to do that but I don't have the energy today lets plan to do it another day". These days he knows when i am just done and will either come have a very sarcastic conversation with dark dark gallows humour or will just cook me some tea. I don't feel that communicating my needs is burdoning because there is no expectation from him other than patience and understanding. Well except on the days when he has to cook his own tea but he enjoys cooking stuff no one else can eat so that makes it more treat like.

As children we tend to think our parents are infallible, super human. Almost god like. or demon like in some cases And we don't understand their humanity. As adults we are able to see and understand. But without them saying we cannot fully know what a parent is going through. And the concerns of the stairs etc are very valid, burn out is very valid. Your daughter is likely to be mad at you if you don't say something and it all goes tits up. From what you say she has compassion and the ability to understand. Trust her a little in this.

This is just so so true and so wise.

hilariousnamehere · 26/04/2023 03:54

You are so wise Hills. And speakout I've been thinking of you and your mum and dd and hope you're all ok.

Worked really late today, crashed into bed at 3.30am and remembered I'd forgotten to do my bins - so got back up to do them, cursing eloquently but quietly because I like my neighbours 😂

Everything is a bit mad at the moment but I did manage some quiet time this afternoon and turned one of my hare photos into a jackalope Grin

Sending you all love and strength, and drawing from this lovely spot to get me through the next week or two of crazy.

speakout · 26/04/2023 07:28

Thanks for that hills, and everyone.
Hope everyone is OK.
I have had better times, but trying to move through it.
My Mum is still in the stoke ward, she is improving every day, but I am too busy.
I have reluctantly had to stop work - at least for a few days, which is annoying as bills etc are going through the roof. But I need some rest, life continues to be stressful. Yoga has been put to one side too this week, fitting in classes puts time pressure on the rest of the day and ends up causing more stress rather than more.
My magical practice is at a bare minimum, and I feel sad that I havn't been contributing as much as I would like on this thread in terms of magical talk and inspiration.
Looking at my last few posts it seems an outpouring of my problems- and there are plenty other places for me to have a rant and find support.

Spring is well underway here, fruit trees have blossom, leaves growing quicker now.
It's still very cold at night though here, we have had a hard frost the past few nights, so too early here for sowing much or transplanting seedlings outside.
It will be the middle of May before it is safe to do that here.
Off to start my day here, which contains unexciting tasks, appointments, phone calls, hospital visit, a little work and housework.

If you find some magic- please share!

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HazelTheGreenWitch · 26/04/2023 08:09

The weather is causing me to do the seedlings hokey cokey at the moment. And the laundry for that matter!

Craftycorvid · 26/04/2023 09:01

@speakout sometimes - in my view - the magical practice is in sharing the emotional burdens and getting an empathic response. Some call what we do ‘the craft of the wise’ and wisdom includes the understanding of what is going on for us and others.

HillsBesideTheSea · 26/04/2023 09:02

Speakout one of the things i think is most magical is when people feel safe enough to share the troubles they don't feel they can share with others. It is an honour to be a safe place for you.

As for actual magical places - yesterday i had a whole heap of meetings come in which caused a massive amount of schedule conflicts. With building work going on in the house my stress was building. So i debunked to my car office and went and sat on a hill basking in the calming view and sunlight. Coming off the hill i had used that bit of nature grounding to figure out how to resolve the conflicts and had wrestled some sort of order into the chaos.

Last night i also took an evening night where the light whispy cloud cover gave a atmospheric look to the moon and venus. Which was another moment of restorative energy for me.

ISaySteadyOn · 26/04/2023 09:14

We removed DD from school this week to HE her and the whole house got lighter, her face got brighter, her appetite has improved and she is beginning to be interested in learning things again. The whole house feels lifted. How is that for magic?

I'm still anxious about receiving varying emails about her from the school we just took her out from, but I have to remember that it's just their admin hasn't caught up.

HillsBesideTheSea · 26/04/2023 11:07

We had emails from a school for the whole of the remaining school year after we took DS out of 6th form. In the end i just wrote them a letter which mentioned GDPR and requested for them to be stopped. It was a simple thing. However, some schools are on the ball and it doesn't happen. So don't worry about it until you have to politely request them to stop.

Glad your dd is feeling so much better for the change.