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Any Witches Here?- Part 18

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speakout · 11/01/2023 20:19

Or Wiccans. or Pagans? Or anyone who is interested in a magical path or feels some magical stirrings.
A place for support, learning, swapping ideas and magical inspiration..
This is the 17th thread- anyone looking for a deep dive into juicy magical topics may like to browse previous threads.....
It is a long list!!
Part 1 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3241689-Any-witches-here?pg=1
Part 2
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3338025-Any-Witches-Here-Part-2?pg=1
Part 3
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3366411-Any-Witches-Here-Part-3?pg=1
Part 4
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3404406-Any-Witches-Here-Part-4-Edited-by-MNHQ?pg=1
Part5
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3437092-Any-Witches-Here-Part-5?pg=1
Part 6 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3482023-Any-Witches-Here-Part-6?pg=1
Part 7 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3520269-Any-Witches-Here-Part-7?pg=1
Part 8 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/a3568622-Any-Witches-Here-Part-8?pg=1
Part 9 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3637696-Any-Witches-Here-Part-9?pg=1
Part 10
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3726266-Any-Witches-Here-Part-10
Part 11
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3850635-Any-Witches-Here-Part-11
Part 12
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3997761-Any-Witches-Here-Part-12
Part 13 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/4116107-Any-Witches-here-Part-13
Part 14www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/4213962-Any-Witches-Here-Part-14
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freckles20 · 22/03/2023 23:19

@speakout after reading your post I did a gentle yoga session in a sunny spot in my house. The session included some breathing exercises which were new to me and I really enjoyed them.

I felt so much better afterwards and had a clearer head and some energy until mid-afternoon.

Thank you

speakout · 23/03/2023 06:54

That's so good to hear freckles20.
There are lots of amazing yoga videos on you tube, I often use them.
All styles, many suitable for absolute beginner- from quick 10 minute sessions to lengthier ones.
The great thing about yoga is that it can come to meet you. Finding a place for your body and working at a level that you are comfortable with, in a way that you need. Whether it is gentle restorative stretches, focussing on different areas, bringing energy or something more demanding- all is possible. Whether you are taking options or modifications for a pose- it's all good, you are doing yoga perfectly, listening to your body and healing the mind /body connection.

I know many of you are familiar with Molly Roberts, one of my favourite youtube witches. I was thinking about some of us who are tired and low in energy- this is an uplifting short video worth a watch-
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For The Tired Witches

Hello, Moon Babies! The audio in this video is a portion of a much larger discussion about "Tips and Hacks for Tired Witches" from the latest Unicorn Podcast...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?ab_channel=MollyRoberts&v=pmYtiDTPCgU

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speakout · 23/03/2023 06:59

Sorry youtube links often don't work for me- if you search in youtube for Tired Witches Molly Roberts you should find it.

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MoonWitchMom · 23/03/2023 17:43

It has been sunny today by me so I took DS out to the cafe and we walked along the canal. It was beautiful. I feel so much more alive when the sun is out. Spring is my absolute favourite time of year, I love the sun but not the heat of summer so it’s the perfect middle ground for me. I love to see the new life blossoming. Our bedroom is in the attic and it has a gorgeous curved window that always seems to catch the sun, I’ve spent the rest of the evening lying on the bed with my records on whilst DS plays beside me. I’ve been reading the book you recommended speakout, the starhawk one, it’s brilliant. I’ve downloaded her book on parenting too. I like to keep my books on parenting in the way of the Goddess/Pagan on my kindle app on my phone so that I have them at all times!.
IconicKitty welcome!
I’m hoping that the weather picks up soon as I’m itching for a swim in the waterfall near us. It’s just so magical. I hope you all have a wonderful day.

Hedjwitch · 23/03/2023 19:41

Sisters,I need your help tonight. Dd1 is adult but lives at home. She has poor mental health. After a lot of progress,tonight it has all gone horribly wrong due to a malicious accusation. Unfounded,as will be proven, but enough to trigger her.
I have made her a tea of chamomile,skullcap and lemonbalm, and a pillow muslin bag of lavender and rose. I asked the Goddess to fill them with hope and self belief and calmness.
If you are lighting a candle tonight,please send healing and comfort and strength to her. She finds this world so hard. Her name is Rosie.
Thank you.

BeautifulDayintheneighbourhood · 23/03/2023 19:49

Hedjwitch · 23/03/2023 19:41

Sisters,I need your help tonight. Dd1 is adult but lives at home. She has poor mental health. After a lot of progress,tonight it has all gone horribly wrong due to a malicious accusation. Unfounded,as will be proven, but enough to trigger her.
I have made her a tea of chamomile,skullcap and lemonbalm, and a pillow muslin bag of lavender and rose. I asked the Goddess to fill them with hope and self belief and calmness.
If you are lighting a candle tonight,please send healing and comfort and strength to her. She finds this world so hard. Her name is Rosie.
Thank you.

My heart goes out to you and her. I have some idea what you’re going through. Will light a candle and send you both love.

Hedjwitch · 23/03/2023 19:51

Thank you.

freckles20 · 23/03/2023 21:09

Hedjwitch · 23/03/2023 19:41

Sisters,I need your help tonight. Dd1 is adult but lives at home. She has poor mental health. After a lot of progress,tonight it has all gone horribly wrong due to a malicious accusation. Unfounded,as will be proven, but enough to trigger her.
I have made her a tea of chamomile,skullcap and lemonbalm, and a pillow muslin bag of lavender and rose. I asked the Goddess to fill them with hope and self belief and calmness.
If you are lighting a candle tonight,please send healing and comfort and strength to her. She finds this world so hard. Her name is Rosie.
Thank you.

My heart goes out to you @Hedjwitch. It is so painful so see our children struggle. I will light a candle and send love and light to both you and Rosie.

Just in case it might be helpful I hope you don't mind me mentioning a Facebook group that I have found immensely understanding and helpful when my son has struggled with his mental health. It is called 'parenting mental health' and welcomes all parents with children of whatever age. I'm not a particular fan of Facebook but it is a warm and empathetic place where there is no judgement. I realise it might not be what you need but wanted to mention it.

Hedjwitch · 23/03/2023 21:11

Thank you. I will look at that. It hurts because I cant fix it. I cant help her

freckles20 · 23/03/2023 21:20

Thank you for the YouTube link @speakout. It made me stop and think that slowing down and finding some space might help me to feel less tired- maybe it isn't my body letting me down as much as me overloading it.

It has been windy here today. It wasn't severe enough to upset the dogs so I quite enjoyed being blown about a little on my walks- maybe the gusts took some things I need to let go away with them....

@MoonWitchMom your room sounds like it is in a lovely spot. I'm looking forward to an outdoor swim soon too, in a nearby lake. I can only imagine how wonderful swimming in a waterfall would be.

queenrollo · 23/03/2023 21:21

Lighting a candle for you and your daughter @Hedjwitch I know there are several here who understand the path you are walking with this. I sometimes think parenting older and adult children is harder. When they are small the magic of a kiss and cuddle seems to soothe us, as much as it does them but the older they get the less that feels adequate. I don't quite know how to articulate it, but hopefully you understand what I am trying to say.

freckles20 · 23/03/2023 21:27

Hedjwitch · 23/03/2023 21:11

Thank you. I will look at that. It hurts because I cant fix it. I cant help her

I hear you @Hedjwitch. I agree that unfortunately you can't fix DD and I know something of how terribly difficult that is.

Joining the group helped me to understand why I can't fix my son, and how to cope a little better with that realisation. Previously I was a desperate fixer which only made things worse.

I know it is perhaps one of the last things you feel like doing, but do try to take care of yourself. It is so easy to let self care go, but it is an important part of keeping ourselves well so that we can support our loved ones.

Hedjwitch · 23/03/2023 21:32

Thank you all. I am taking great comfort from your support. I dont really do spellwork but I wish I could cast a protection around her while she finds her way. Her spirit animal is a horse. I will try and visualise one standing beside her to protect her.

BeautifulDayintheneighbourhood · 23/03/2023 21:37

Something I have been working with recently is to visualise your daughter and her situation as filled with light. Ask the light to heal and purify and clarify the situation. Do this for yourself as well. Release the situation to the light and ask that all things will be for the highest good of all. Then release the situation and try not to worry about outcomes. It’s hard but very freeing.

freckles20 · 23/03/2023 21:41

Hedjwitch · 23/03/2023 21:32

Thank you all. I am taking great comfort from your support. I dont really do spellwork but I wish I could cast a protection around her while she finds her way. Her spirit animal is a horse. I will try and visualise one standing beside her to protect her.

It is interesting that you wrote that the horse would 'stand beside' DD. To me, that is exactly how we can help our children once they are adults or young adults.

We stand beside them and travel alongside them. We can't carry them, or fix them but we can sit alongside them (often metaphorically when we are pushed away).

Lightbringer · 23/03/2023 21:53

I've just stumbled upon this thread and basically yay! My people! Hi

speakout · 24/03/2023 06:09

A warm welcome Lightbringer.

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speakout · 24/03/2023 06:19

I sit with my sisters supporting an adult child who is struggling.
This has been a long journey for me too, and there are threads here and online groups which can support you.
When we are in such a situation self care becomes more important- not less.
In order to be the best support we can we need to keep our own cup full, that way we maintain our own strength and energy and be the best possible support for our child.
For me it has taken work on my codependancy, often goes hand in hand with empaths.
Worrying about the future doesn't help. Focus on the day you have now. You may be worrying about something that will never happen.

Have a magical day sisters.

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speakout · 24/03/2023 09:27

I am a regular poster on some other sites, some to do with having an adult child who is struggling.
I wrote this a few days ago, I hope ypu don't mind me posting it here-

There is a trope "you can only be as happy as your unhappiest child"- it makes me cross just reading that. Pulling ourselves down, allowing guilt to diminish our own joy is not helping the situation. It places the burden of our own happiness on someone else, and onto a person who is struggling themselves. Many of us have other loved ones, and if we live a life of sadness it impacts them too- and they possilbly feel as helpless towards you as we do towards our young person. When we invest in our own well being we become stronger, we have more to give if we keep our own cups full. Maintaining ourselves and caretaking of our own joy is something we do have control over, it helps us our loved ones and our child who is struggling.

And to all the "fixers"- I include myself here too, but I am changing-

I have come to realise that stepping back is not "doing nothing" - it is actually doing a lot. Giving our child space to heal and grow, holding space for them without judgement, giving back control, showing acceptance,allowing them to have self determination is hard work, and I think important.

Pushing them is non acceptance, and although it takes great courage, that is their starting place, their point on their journey.
We can hold space and stand with them, They will feel more support if they know you are not denying their situation.
Support is amazing, but often pushing worsens the situation. We can offer help, but they don't need reminded of that every day.
We also have work to do on our own journey, making sure we are in a mentally healthy place ourselves, that we seek joy in our own lives, so we show up with authentic calm positive energy. This in turn is noticed by our YP, as an example of how life can be happy and meaningful, despite challenges,and also to release them of burden and guilt they may feel towards us. Stepping back is actually doing a great deal.

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VioletCharlotte · 24/03/2023 16:10

@Hedjwitch sending you love and solidarity. My DS1 has suffered with his mental health, it's very hard to watch and theres been many times when I've felt totally helpless. I'm glad your DD is allowing you to nurture her. As our wise sisters have said, sometimes we do have to step back and understand that this is something they have to go through. We can walk by their side and hold their hand, but we can't do the journey for them. I really feel for young people today, life is incredibly tough, I'm very grateful that I grew up without the internet and social media.

I've had a day off work today and I've been for some reiki healing. I feel incredibly relaxed, as if I've just had seven hours deep sleep. My energy levels are still low after having Covid and my emotions were all over the place after my Grandmother's funeral on Wednesday. I'm feeling more grounded now and as if the fog that's been hanging over me has lifted.

@Lightbringer welcome to the thread. I like your user name 😊

Probablymagrat · 24/03/2023 18:31

Sending strength to all those who are struggling. My son has his own mental health struggles and its so hard to watch and know he is suffering and not be able to do anything other than be there with him waiting for the storm to pass. It doesn't matter how old they are, they are always your baby.

I have come home for a week, back to the area I used to live. I moved away 14 months ago. I miss it terribly, like a great wound in my heart. The air is right, the landscape is right, I know where I am. Most of my small family is near. My heart is lifted. I can hear the sea, I can smell the seaweed, I know this is my place. I am so connected to this small corner of England.

IconicKitty · 24/03/2023 18:34

Lighter days are ahead... the clocks go forward tomorrow which means lighter evenings and things will only get better Smile

I am glad March is nearly at an end. It has historically been an eventful month with lots of changes for me so I am always nervous and suspicious until it's gone. We have another week mind, but I'll be glad to see April.

HillsBesideTheSea · 25/03/2023 09:10

IconicKitty - i feel the same way about May. And as a result constantly feel on edge the entire month, only having relief when it has past for another year.

VioletCharlotte · 25/03/2023 11:57

Yes, I, glad March is nearly over. It's such a 'cuspy' month, on the cusp between winter and spring and the energy feels all over the place. I feel the same about August.

@Probablymagrat that sounds wonderful. I've lived in the same town all my life but it doesn't feel like home to me at all. There's something so calming about being near the sea. I hope you have a lovely week.

hilariousnamehere · 26/03/2023 00:48

Again life has got massively in the way of everything, but welcome new faces and hello old ones!

Attended my first women's circle on retreat on the equinox and we made a spring broom/besom - thought you might like to see! The circle was an incredible experience too - I'd love to do more. Photos are the broom on the hearth where we left it - I did seriously consider strapping it to the roof rack but it wouldn't fit inside the car to bring home - and a close up of the flowers we wove in for our equinox fairy feast. I am grateful and still slightly stunned to have found this community of writing women who all feel the same as I do about their witchery!

Currently battling my own mental health rollercoaster and desperately trying to find time to catch up properly and to nurture my own spiritual and creative practices which are very intertwined, but the universe has other ideas right now. I haven't abandoned you though, just want to be able to read through properly and respond and there is never enough time!

Love to all of you while I figure out how to slow the world down (and/or get off for a bit) ✨

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