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6th Insight - the celestine prophecies cont...

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Papillon · 13/09/2004 09:46

EVERYBODY IS WELCOME TO COME AND TALK ABOUT THIS WHETHER YA HAVE READ THE BOOK OR NOT.

So this is one looks as scary as the 4th !

Clearing the past... our parental lineage and control dramas.

So are you just like your parents.. ? Or, are you like them but have added extras.. ? Do you have control dramas?

Wot about day to day life... is your outer behaviour:

Outer behaviour vs Inner Struggle

  • Intimidator Denial, not listening e.g. Fear of being controlled
  • Interrogator
  • Aloof
  • Poor Me

I can honestly say that I am not quite at this state of nirvana yet!

Awareness is a mirror reflecting the four elements. Beauty is a heart that generates love and a mind that is open. Thich Nhat Hanh

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JuniperDewdrop · 13/09/2004 17:35

But we can be given it? I have a few RL friends who make me feel very buoyant after meeting them. Or even a phone call from them can do it. I have a close MSN mate who also helps me that way.
Perhaps we are just very balanced individuals and that's why we can't find our drama? Now wouldn't that be something?

gothicmama · 13/09/2004 18:17

Your drama is formed by what your parents drama is - will write more when I find teh section it's like if your dad is an intimidator and your mum is a poor me you are likely to be an interregator- so by working out what your parent's individual control drama s are you work out your own- then analyse how to change

Papillon · 13/09/2004 18:25

but gothicmama if there are two parents with three kids that does not necessarily make them all the same. Some take more traits from one parent and not the other I guess and there is the outside influences too - friends, other family members etc.

It is nice to get and feel good energy from another isn´t it Juniper - that may well be why we all had such a good time on our threads when they first started - we were all on the vibe

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gothicmama · 13/09/2004 18:36

no each person responds differently to the control drama therfore will be differnt for siblings but the basis is your parents drama

gothicmama · 13/09/2004 18:44

it like one dominant one but you can be others and peopl use it a s a way of gaining eenergy

Papillon · 13/09/2004 18:55

your last post is not quite clear to me... but I think you are maybe saying that siblings find other control drama handles to gain energy if they don´t fit the stereotype example... is that wot you are saying?

I think it true that people experiment and adapt with the various ways of energy gaining. Also from another perspective people can feel controlled by anothers energy or feel drained from it if it is a lesson they have to learn... suppose thats the point of the CP book..

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JuniperDewdrop · 13/09/2004 19:12

I suppose your parents do make you the way you are up to a certain point/age but I have grown so much in the last few years. I'd say my friends/dh and Church have had a very big influence in this.

gothicmama · 14/09/2004 12:45

Depending on how you learn to get energy (attention) when you are little is determined early and becomes your dominant/main response however in other situations /with other people you may use other methods to gain energy / prevent peiole taking energy from you - The 8th is about revisiting dramas adn acknowledging if you behave diffeently you can regain control of teh situation and stop people taking your energy simily you can respond differently and not take someone elses energy away form them it is about being aware of yourself and to change reoccuring situations to make you a better person

Papillon · 14/09/2004 13:19

Yes... as I said earlier... something I started looking at many years ago but always find interesting and the experiential guide explains and gives exercises if anyone is interested. I first read the CP about 8 years ago now - gave it to both my mum and dad to read... dad especially enjoyed it - but found the insights abit too new age for him as they went along. That was 8 years ago now Would have been interesting to talk to him about it more back then - perhaps I will find another opportunity one day.

Yes Juniper it does get more complex when our the major drama gets threaded with other relationships and experiences as life goes on... maybe thats why we have moved onto being mixed ole bags

u mentioned the 8th gothicmama, are u ready for that one next week pershaps and anyone elses thoughts? This insight was for me done and dusted quite some time ago... and any paradigm shifts I have are more reminders to myself to get off my butt and put the words into action...!

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Papillon · 14/09/2004 13:33

actually this begs the question - just had divine inspiration while changing a nappy!! If you move on from being one of the four labels that Redfield defines and your child grows up with parents who have resolved all parental lineage issues or a mixed bags then wot will that make them????? Buddha?!

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JuniperDewdrop · 14/09/2004 13:56

Ha ha papillon, I was thinking just the same thing re kids. My DS1 is showing poor me signs though. He's almost 7 and gets plenty of attention? Of course it mentions the child/ratio and it's effect on children in the 8th.
I'd love to be involved in discusions about the 8th but began feeling I should start from the first insight perhaps, with the others who are just joining? Or is this the aloof me coming out

Papillon · 14/09/2004 14:02

I have thought about that too... starting at the beginning again ...will they have us though!! Perhaps we can be aloof together and swan round all insights on offer. I would miss you if you go away Juniper... I love to chat to you - you are such a pure lovely spirit to me

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JuniperDewdrop · 14/09/2004 14:04

Awww that's lovely papillon I think the same of you. Maybe I can post on both?

JuniperDewdrop · 14/09/2004 14:06

I woke in the middle of the night with a dead foot and couldn't get back off as I'd just finished the book and was trying to work out my drama.

Papillon · 14/09/2004 14:20

ah ha! my dead foot spell worked

see not so pure after all...whoops!

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JuniperDewdrop · 14/09/2004 14:40

next time will you use silk scarves so they don't chaff!

Papillon · 15/09/2004 08:17

Replaced the paddlocks with silk scarves and left a slice of chocolate cake for your breakfast Juniper

Bit of a discussion last evening in Litotes about people wanting to start on the 1st insight. If you are interested in being a fairy godmother etc would be wonderful as per usual to have the pleasure of your company and wisdom

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JuniperDewdrop · 15/09/2004 10:20

Much appreciated, did you bake it yourself? I'd love to start with the 1st and will pop over shortly

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