Middle Aged Women and Psychics

[headinhands]

Just an observation. When you see these mediums/psychics the audience is predominately middle aged women? Why is this sort of belief more commonly found amongst that age/gender?

op women make up a larger demographic of all theatre audiences.

But to that overwhelming ratio?!

Watching other women and criticising isn't very productive is it. Or is it to make yourself feel better about the kind of woman you are. Are you middle aged or coming up to this stage in life, thinking, sht, you wouldn't catch me carrying on like that. *

Nice little ad hom there.* Who I am/what I do has nothing to do with the question. When posters start 'ad hom-ing' it suggests they don't want to go where the questions leads.*

Why would you think that someone would look at the audiences and think that they wouldn't want to 'carry on like that'? Carry on like what?

letting the side down some how.

I think they're letting theirselves down yes.**

Endless attempts and huge prizes, and still no proof that these people are anything but charlatans. It is all fakery.

Penn and teller do clever stuff and I don't know how - but there is still no such thing as magic and they will agree.

All for an open mind, but dont let common sense spill over the edges.

Nice little ad hom there. Who I am/what I do has nothing to do with the question. When posters start 'ad hom-ing' it suggests they don't want to go where the questions leads. Ask me any question you like, I'll try and be as open as possible with my answers. I don't think it's me that's applying avoidance strategies to question answering. btw I'm a middle aged woman, fair enough if you would rather not reveal that one way or another.

Why would you think that someone would look at the audiences and think that they wouldn't want to 'carry on like that'? You're judging the women in the audience as being gullible. Is there another reason why you're watching these programs, because you have not yet answered to the reason why you're spending your time watching them.

Carry on like what? Carrying on like a gullible middle aged woman as you put it.

I think they're letting theirselves down yes. That answers that then.

Lljkk, what does a touch of happy clappy mean please?

OP I've never seen one of these shows on TV either.

I've been reading about spiritualism and hadn't realised it was so heavily linked to church.

Ask me any question you like,

I did in my first post. So far it hasn't been explained satisfactorily.

because you have not yet answered to the reason why you're spending your time watching them.

More ad hom. It doesn't matter if I've seen one 20 second shot of the audience or if I'm watching these programmes all day every day.

I did in my first post. So far it hasn't been explained satisfactorily. Lots of posters including myself have tried to give reasons why but you don't seem happy with any of them. So you'll just have to come to your own conclusions which I'm sure you have already but anyway

More ad hom. Where!?

It doesn't matter if I've seen one 20 second shot of the audience or if I'm watching these programmes all day every day. Well it would really. A 20 seconds shot of one audience isn't going to give you a very good overview, maybe it was a women's guild outing.

Are you a middle aged woman op?

What is your response to research which finds that woman predominately make up the majority of theatre audiences? I see that you have chosen not to engage with that point.

At 15.35 I did respond to the reply about theatre audiences. Audiences at psychics are very very female. It's not a 65/35 split.

If my impression was in error I'd hope someone would correct me

Well it would really. A 20 seconds shot of one audience isn't going to give you a very good overview, maybe it was a women's guild outing.

But then people could show numerous shots of audiences where it's more mixed. Or at least less predominately female. And then I'd know my data sample is too small. But so far nothing's been shown to challenge/disprove the notion that it's heavily heavily women.

OP here is a link to an article you might like.
mashable.com/2014/12/06/astrology-women/

Summary of its arguments:

• consumers of astrology, spirituality, supernatural stuff are more likely to be women
• in RL positions of power and privilege are more likely to be held by men so women find comfort in supernatural
• the idea that one can have some form of personal control over surroundings is appealing to a group who may feel disempowered by the strictures of organised religion.
• Woo stuff is targeted at women, eg. put in the women’s section of magazines.

Interestingly the locus of power seems to be a big distinction between religion and magic. In religion the power is largely out of the hands of the believer. We must rely on God’s will. In Magic one can exert some power through spells, communicating with dead, etc.
Hence the popularity of, and fear by church of, witches.

More ad hom. Where!?

Because you asked why I was watching the shows. It makes no difference why. And is a tactic to divert away from the question. The issue is why the audience are overwhelmingly female.

That's interesting Ifyousee. But now I'm left with with the question of why more women aren't into psychics? What's going on with women who don't believe in it? How do they mitigate the lack of autonomy?

Usually middle aged because it takes a good long time to train.
The kind of psychic who contacts dead relatives are sensitives who just pick up on the "vapour trails" of the dead, hanging around in the plane of illusion because there are some pretty good images in there.
They rarely have anything of interest to relate, just that your dead relative may have loved you when they were alive.
Real psychics don't take money for what they do and they don't advertise or contact dead relatives.
They work on the inner planes for a specific purpose and that does not normally involve readings or predictions.

OP, I have to ask - what are you on about?

(User name is just coincidence here!)

I've worked with a lot of psychics - one of the things I've noticed is that they do often target audience members who 'look hard' as one of them described it. They're there for a reason - that reason seems to be that they like getting the 'messages' that say 'The old woman who was a very strong figure in your life wants you to know that you've a heart of gold/you're such a caring person/no on sees how kind you are.' That would be lapped up.

So, a lot of it is women wanting affirmation from strangers - and that's socialised. Even more of it is the connection element, which is too. There are gangs of women just there for a night out/laugh though so it's female group behaviour (not men because they prefer other things - socialised too).

OP, I have to ask - what are you on about?

You'll have to be more specific, sorry.**

Vitalogy I love your words.

Since menopause I have felt so much more vital, so more intuitive so much more empathic. Like the Cailleach. I can second guess situations, I can understand people, know how other people think. Consolidate and sympathise, explain and support.
People look to me for understanding and support. I am a carer for my elderly mother and I have teenagers. I have no anger, I am feisty and energetic but all my energy feels so positive.

@speakout I can't take credit for the words it was from an article I was reading but I agree with what you're saying, it certainly resonates with me too. I'm glad that you're feeling so good since your menopause, I've been in the peri for a while now. A couple of years ago I had what I describe as a spiritual/life awakening, it changed my life. I've never felt this good before. Like you say, more intuitive, having more empathy towards others and feeling that everyone and everything is connected.

vitalolgy, that is so good.
Lovely to hear.

Vitalogy and speakout, so interesting
my mum felt the same after menopause - though if you said the words "spirit medium" to her, she'd run away.

Headinhands,who is Tom that is significant to you?