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Religions Poisons everything

237 replies

remainderman · 05/04/2017 23:15

Religions kill people

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DioneTheDiabolist · 08/04/2017 15:54

I suppose that explains the surrealism on this thread that I have enjoyed so much.Grin

TeaForever · 08/04/2017 16:46

Oh, DioneTheDiabolist I meant in my posts to congratulate you on your pregnancy too. I will now - congratulations! I love hearing about older mums/pregnant women (think you mentioned in one of your posts earlier that you're a bit older than some?) Partly because it gives me hope Smile and partly because I think there's something kind of biblical about it - an extra special blessing from God. Elizabeth, Sarah and Hannah in the Bible all spring to mind. Take care Flowers

ollieplimsoles · 08/04/2017 17:33

Atheists in the past have respected people with religious views. Unfortunately, with the explosion of religious terrorism that respect has now disappeared.

I think people deserve respect but I don't think someone's beliefs should be automatically respected, especially if those beliefs are tied to a broader system of belief like Christianity or Islam.

ErrolTheDragon · 08/04/2017 17:41

I think people deserve respect

I think respect is something that has to be earned. There are religious people I have great respect for, atheists I have respect for - and both religious and atheistic people I have no respect for whatsoever.

ollieplimsoles · 08/04/2017 18:32

think respect is something that has to be earned. There are religious people I have great respect for, atheists I have respect for - and both religious and atheistic people I have no respect for whatsoever.

Same

remainderman · 08/04/2017 18:54

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ErrolTheDragon · 08/04/2017 19:08

I never said I was a man,

No assumptions are generally made about usernames which are fictional characters, such as my own, but yours appears to explicitly mention your sex. Hardly 'dumb' of anyone to make that assumption, and ill-mannered of you to say so.

thegreenheartofmanyroundabouts · 08/04/2017 19:29

Yey!

That's another one or near enough. Rather than all Christians are stupid we have 'anyone who disagrees me with me is dumb'

Cake anyone? Cake

JassyRadlett · 08/04/2017 19:52

What are we supposed to be keeping up with, exactly?

picklemepopcorn · 08/04/2017 19:59

OP's paranoia, I think.

remainderman · 08/04/2017 20:03

disagrees me with me is dumb' - correction again: thats dumb. Never assume anything Willo. I think Milo was probably correct about MN and the slime that slides through its threads. I am a rookie on MN and realize personal attacks are its lifeblood, if that is what you want thats fine.

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thegreenheartofmanyroundabouts · 08/04/2017 20:12

Given that most of us round here have been on threads like this I suggested a version of sermon bingo. If you are not a Christian then this may be new to you but it is how we might stay awake during very long sermons. Allegedly.

. There are keywords and the first person to spot all of them shouts 'Richard Dawkins loves choral evensong'

Religion poisons everything (check)
Fairy tales
Spaghetti flying monster
Evidence
Faith schools
Christian privilege
Mocking religion (check)
All Christians are fools or are stupid (check)
People of faith should not be respected (check)
Science and religion are not compatible
Easter is a pagan festival
Jesus did not exist

JassyRadlett · 08/04/2017 20:15

I am a rookie on MN and realize personal attacks are its lifeblood, if that is what you want thats fine.

Irony alert.

Pigeonie · 08/04/2017 20:39

I am a rookie on MN

And I am a pigeonie, although not a holy pigeonie Halo . Greetings!

ollieplimsoles · 08/04/2017 21:15

People of faith should not be respected (check)

Has anyone said this? I know I said people should be respected but religious beliefs not so much.

Here's a couple more for your list:
-Science and religion are not compatible
-Its actually 'The flying spaghetti monster' not 'Spaghetti flying monster' and I'm agnostic about god in the same way I am agnostic about this. All Evidence (another one for you) suggests they do not exist, but until science figures out how to prove otherwise, we have to keep our options open, we can't disprove their existence.
-Faith schools should not receive government funding, and rituals of religious faith should be left out of mainstream education.
-Christian privilege is a new one to me...I can't say I've heard this term before but I've no idea what there is to feel privileged about.

Funnily enough on threads like these I like to compile my own 'bingo' list:
Richard Dawkins (check)
C.S Lewis
God talks to me
Sense of community
Not a true Christian/ Muslim/ Jew etc... (check)
We all believe different things but follow the same book (check)
Argument based on the presupposition that god is actually real (check)

JassyRadlett · 08/04/2017 21:26

Christian privilege is a new one to me...I can't say I've heard this term before but I've no idea what there is to feel privileged about.

The idea that to have a special/privileged position in the structures of the state (reserved seats in Parliament, state funding for faith schools that are almost universally Christian, the legislative requirement for an act of worship of a broadly Christian nature in faith schools, et al, confers a degree of privilege on Christianity that is not enjoyed by other faiths (or those of no faith, who cannot even open secular free schools - though faith free schools are fine).

ollieplimsoles · 08/04/2017 21:36

Jassy

Ah I see, yes never really added all those examples up like that before. Its all contemptible why on earth would you add that to a bingo list like its something to laugh at?

Surely no Christians on here think that these privileges should exist for someone simply because they follow the Christian faith and 'UK is a Christian country' ? (another one for my bingo list there...)

remainderman · 08/04/2017 21:37

Has legal action ever been taken out against MN for any reason?

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JassyRadlett · 08/04/2017 21:49

Surely no Christians on here think that these privileges should exist for someone simply because they follow the Christian faith and 'UK is a Christian country' ? (another one for my bingo list there...)

I am often surprised by the lengths some will go to in order to defend it as reasonable and right, though of course the majority take the reasonable view that their faith is no more special and deserving of special treatment than anyone else's beliefs or lack thereof.

JassyRadlett · 08/04/2017 21:50

the legislative requirement for an act of worship of a broadly Christian nature in faith schools

Eep! All schools, not just faith schools.

DioneTheDiabolist · 08/04/2017 22:02

Thank you Tea. And everyone else. I do love the PRS regulars, ya big bunch of non athiestic, slithering, child stoning, fundamentalists.Grin

remainderman · 08/04/2017 22:03

I have changed the subject has this is my thread. Just answer the question or piss off

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remainderman · 08/04/2017 22:10

Dione are you fat

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picklemepopcorn · 08/04/2017 22:15

I haven't ever thought of Christian privilege. I'm not aware of it, but haven't been looking for it. I think there can be a cross over where traditional British culture and religion overlap, which people would want to defend for cultural reasons rather than religious ones- sort of, William Shakespeare, King James Bible, Easter holiday, type situation.

I can get a bit aggrieved when people want in on something special which is funded/set up/maintained by religious people, but want to be able to ridicule the religion, too. So, getting married/christened in church and then creating about associated requirements, or wanting to send their children to a faith school but complaining about the faith content of the faith school. But there are grey areas as with everything. Is that christian privilege?

DioneTheDiabolist · 08/04/2017 22:17

Who is this Milo you speak of OP? Is he the Ass Monster of Repressed Rage?