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Choirs, worship songs, after service coffee - the all new religion chat thread

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niminypiminy · 05/12/2016 12:07

A new place for us to share the lovely, silly and annoying things that happen in church life and share our great love of Graham Kendrick.

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niminypiminy · 10/12/2016 10:01

I wouldn't mind glamping! Camping not so much.

Boughton House isn't that far up the A1from me so sleeping at home is a possibility.

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nickelbabeinamanger · 10/12/2016 15:30

It's my friend from Other Church. They all go aas a big group every year so i ththought i'd give it a go.
The pcc books the places early so we get an early-bird discount and then we pay back the pcc in installments.
They know I don't like thaf kind of thing, but as it's a big frfrienfly group I think it will be fun Grin

nickelbabeinamanger · 10/12/2016 15:32

Sorry about the typos!
Friends...
Friendly...

Madhairday · 10/12/2016 17:09

Nickel you're coming to NW?

Grin Xmas Grin

That's brilliant! You know, those saying you'll hate it might not be right. There are different worship venues and although not a traditional one there is a quieter acoustic venue which is lovely. You don't have to go to anything if you don't want to. A lot of the seminars are really good and you could just pick a few of those if you couldn't cope with the celebrations.

There's also a venue called Sanctuary which is really quiet, it does morning and evening prayer and very quiet worship and might be more up your street if you need some peace.

You might well not like the main do, but check it out anyway! (Warning, you probably really won't like Impact.. ) Xmas Smile

Are you going week 1? Because that's when we're going and if so we have to meet up, how exciting!

nickelbabeinamanger · 10/12/2016 17:11

Hot off the presses...
This is the kind of stuff you miss having left a church.
Turns out NV is having stress-related (they think) passing out and collapsing episodes.
So, that's why NC has taken a new job and NV's not going to work.
It doesn't help that they both take the hard way about absolutely everything and never seem to take advice about stuff (or help), but that's my own opinion...
The first thing both DH and I thought was "why can't she have taken a part-time role as asst minister and him go part time too? like a jobshare?
But I think there are rules on where you're allowed to be a priest after you've done your curacy - maybe they're not even allowed to do it in the same diocese.
Seems very silly to me, especially in a situation like this one, but there you go.

nickelbabeinamanger · 10/12/2016 17:13

hmm. callwaiting says you can stay in the same diocese -just trying to find the rules

Madhairday · 10/12/2016 17:13

Ps welcome autumnboys :)

I must admit we now cheat at camping as we borrow my brothers brand new caravan which is very all mod cons, heating and air con and shower, I love it and it feels very relaxing. Years of tents are well over for us :-)

Madhairday · 10/12/2016 17:57

You can stay in the same diocese nickel, I know quite a few clergy couples who jobshare in ministry or who work near to each other.

Lissettethehallswithholly · 10/12/2016 18:17
Dutchoma · 10/12/2016 20:29

Waves back at Lissette.

nickelbabeinamanger · 10/12/2016 21:06

but can you stay at the same church?

autumnboys · 11/12/2016 08:10

Thanks for the welcome.

Our neighbouring parish has a new vicar who served her curacy about three parishes over, in the same diocese. Prior to that they had a married couple - he was called to the church, she qualified and served her curacy there.

I don't think it's common to move from curate to vicar of the same parish but I don't know if it's not allowed. ( I feel as though I have heard of this happening recently, but we've also had two local schools where the deputy has become the head lately, I may be thinking of that).

DanyellasDonkey · 11/12/2016 17:35

Oh dear, another less than satisfactory outing to church this morning. What I want doesn't seem to exist where I live, so I'm torn between going along to something I don't enjoy or not going to church at all.

Any suggestions most welcome Smile

BlessThisMess · 11/12/2016 17:55

Can't believe I almost missed a convo about GB! Next year will be my 30th Greenbelt - wouldn't miss it for anything! Tickets are already booked. I do cheat a bit with our caravan but it makes it so much easier Smile.
I tried New Wine for the first time this year. I was a bit dubious but most of our church go so I thought it would be good socially if nothing else. I had a bit of a struggle with it at the beginning of the week but by the end was thoroughly enjoying it! I think we will go again next year. DD2 enjoyed her group.

BackforGood · 11/12/2016 21:53

We sang a carol this morning by a Marguerite Kendrick. Is she related to Graham ?

nickelbabeinamanger · 11/12/2016 22:24

Danyella
I'm having the same problems - the church i've had to leave is traditional in the main, especially in the music, and we have trained priests in recent times to go with the tradtional - in fact, NV was good at getting a good traditional thing going, but mess it up a couple of times with the Lord's Prayer (all the way through Ordinary Time we have to have the modern version)
But, DH was in charge of the music, so we got the right type of stuff (he was always willing to take requests)
But, most churches are going modern now, it's very hard to get one that's organ, choir and tradtional words.
I had a huge problem finding one when I left last time, and i think it's going to be the same this time, too - if there's a choir they don't do anything, or the sound system is shocking, or the organ is a box of whistles.
I know that both traditional and great/welcoming ca be done, but noone seems to have worked out the magic formula, like they think that if they start to be great, they'll lose the tradition.

We went to Aylesford today, and it was lovely - they've done all the right things with the church, toilets, bells, carpetted back-of-church-where-pews-have-been-removed-to-make-nice-space, the organ was overhauled last year or the year before (still only a 2 manual, so not that impressive!). but the choir had no confidence at all - they sang like they'd never seen the music before. I felt like i was singing louder than they were, and I was trying to sing more quietly (I miss being the ones who have to sing loudly so everyone can hear)
However, we did learn after the service that the Organist has a week off and the asst Organist plays, and also that there is a new vicar, who has only been there since August and he's not as vibrant as the old one - so it might be better in a few months, or even on a better Sunday.

It can be done, traditional churches just need to recognise that change isn't always bad, but it has to be the right change, and it has to work with what they've already got, not replace it, but enhance it (and toilets and removing pews is never popular, but it makes churches so much more workable these days)

Dutchoma · 12/12/2016 07:39

Sounds like you and dh would make a great addition to that church nickel

WorkLife · 12/12/2016 16:45

Hello, just wanted to pop on here and say thank you.
A few years ago and with a different username, I asked if you would pray as I'd had miscarriages. I now have a healthy, lively 2 year old who is playing with her big sister. I remember Dutchoma especially, but there were other, I am sure.

Dutchoma · 12/12/2016 17:46

Thank you for remembering me Worklife. No idea of course who you were in a previous incarnation. So glad you have your baby (who is not a baby any more).

EddSimcox · 12/12/2016 21:50

WELL. How lovely Grin

Church life... rapidly becoming a fairly major part of my life...

Quick resume then -

  • traditional, or not so much, I'm fairly relaxed, my church manages to mix it up pretty well (though I can't do hands in the air myself!)
- would LOVE to be in a choir or even have one to listen to, sadly not the case, and no singing group either. Though we do have some kind of singing thing on a weekday evening that I've never been to, so I'll report back on that one day. Folky I think.
  • piano. though I wish we had someone to play the organ. And the vicar on guitar or uke sometimes, and kids on percussion now and again. Sometimes proper old-skool sung responses and kazoos in the same service...
  • books books BOOKS. really struggle with powerpoint in church!
  • MUGS

I have never heard of Graham Kendrick!!

Determined to go to Greenbelt this year. Not sure NW would be my thing...

Still learning everything all the time, so all the above liable to change.

Dutchoma · 12/12/2016 22:51

Never heard of Graham Kendrick, how wonderful. YouTube will soon enlighten you.

niminypiminy · 12/12/2016 22:56

Ooh Edith v excited to hear you might be a Greenbelt!

This Sunday we had Shine Jesus Shine as our final hymn, and it was very lovely to see my younger son singing with great gusto and almost dancing as he sang. I had to join in - and really enjoyed it.

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niminypiminy · 12/12/2016 23:26

Also

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EddSimcox · 13/12/2016 01:08

I actually like Shine Jesus Shine Wink

Greenbelt is going to be one of the consolations I hang on to through the I-think-now-definite divorce...

EddSimcox · 13/12/2016 01:11

In other news I was thinking of applying for a job at the CofE. Legal advisor to the Archibishops Council (and other institutions). Madness?

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