To anyone who stopped believing....

[MessyBun247]

Why? Just curious really

Sharia

Quantum theory. Energy and mass are equivalent, sort of (good old E = MC2). Energy can be converted into matter.

You don't need a creator for that.

my

Thats exactly what i was thinking while reading that post

I've never seen it debunked.
How do you explain unlearned men knowing about embryos, 1200 years before they are discovered???

Furthermore, the Koran predicts the big bang And that the university is expanding.
1400 years later, all the world's scientists are suddenly saying what the Koran has said all this time!!!
How can you possibly reconcile that with anything other than it was divinely inspired??
How could these men make all of these scientific predictions and 1400 be proved right by these, all by accident??

Universe, not university obviously!

mom

You do realise that this is a "if you stopped believing in religion why did that happen " thread

Not a "quick ....a load of people have stopped believing lets try and change their mind " thread

Actually the universe isn't expanding.

Here it is

You can claim confirmation bias all you want, but ignores the fact that the Koran makes scientific predictions that were literally unknowable at the time. There was no way to test or even observe what the Koran was claiming until now. As we couldn't even observe these theories, they were literally unknowable to man, therefore they didn't come from man, therefore they are divine, therefore there is a God.
Praise Allah, for he is most merciful and wise

Sharia ignoring confirmation bias for a minute, why would that mean they had to come from a God? There are other sources it could have come from.

My faith started dwindling after my first child died very unexpectedly. She must have been in pain. Had another child with autism. So God took away my first child. I can accept that. Why give me another child who will suffer difficulties and ridicule in his life. I almost believed that God would bless me with ease after my daughter died. I was patient and calm and all the things one is asked to be after a huge trauma. I just feel utterly disillusioned with religion. I have to say that I feel less grounded and secure since I stopped the acts of worship.

Sharia mom it's a shame you have derailed the purpose of this thread. Please can you start a new thread. I was genuinely interested in the topic of the thread and you have ruined it.

I didn't stop "believing" as such but I stopped being a born again Christian once I found enough evidence looking into history not to take the bible so literally

Amazingly all the things I used to take as proof I had the "correct" faith still continued. I still interact with the supernatural or "God" if you like in the same way I used to say I had a personal relationship with Jesus

I havent said why i stopped believing

I was 13 and couldnt reconcile the loving God i had been taught about with the God that let evil things happen

I had been questioning for a few years but i finally told my mum and she said it was just because i didnt want to go to mass

I walked 3 miles in the snow in new boots (which took all the skin from my heels and left me walking in blood) to the priests house and told him i had no faith

He said that sometimes he had no faith either and rang my mum to chat with her...i needed a lift home in the end because i couldnt walk

My mum believed me then

Shariamom

Where did the universe come from? The truth is that nobody knows (yet).

How could it be created without a creator? You have presupposed a creator, so your question is just a strawman. Nevertheless there are scientific theories positing how a universe might come from 'nothing'.

How do you explain embryology accurately described in the Koran?... Hippocrates (460 BC–370 BC), Aristotle (384 BC–322 BC), and Galen of Pergamos (150 AD to 180 AD) all described embryology a lot better and seven centuries earlier than the Quran. There is nothing in the Quran a farmer, anyone with experience of miscarriage, or anyone who had read a book on the matter wouldn't have know.

The Bible has changed many times over the years and should rightly be discredited Yes indeed, unfortunately not everyone uses rational thinking when it come to beliefs.

The Koran was perfect the day it was revealed... That is just a statement you have made about a subjective opinion.
... not even man could change it. Just because it hasn't been done doesn't mean it can't.
people could not get over how beautiful the words were There were lots of beautiful things in the ancient world, your point is?
it was written by unlearned men. Doesn't the hadith include numerous accounts of Muhammad writing, meaning he was an educated person?
Muhammad and his followers were not poets People of that time used poetry to memorise long stories, it was common practise. Have you read any of Homers work a thousand years prior?
competitions were held at the time for poets to write their own passages more beautiful than the Koran. This happened long before the Quran was written, it is a common form of oral tradition in most historical cultures.
Not one poet, despite their decades of study could come close. Another subjective opinion, I could name a lot of poetry far superior to the Quran.
I'd argue no man since has ever come close. Requiescat by Oscar Wilde, When You Are Old by William Butler Yeats, How Do I Love Thee? by Elizabeth Barrett Browning, Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night by Dylan Thomas, Do not stand at my grave and weep by Mary Elizabeth Frye, Adlestrop by Edward Thomas, Music When Soft Voices Die by Percy Bysshe Shelley, Sudden Light by Dante Gabriel Rossetti, Whoso List to Hunt by Sir Thomas Wyatt, Cold-Blooded Creatures by Elinor Wylie, Those Winter Sundays by Robert Hayden ...... I could go on for hours.
I urge you to visit your local mosque been there done that and to be honest I was as bored as I was when I visited a church and got less answers.

The Qur’an is completely silent on the “big bang” because it clearly has no awareness whatsoever of a universe that pre-existed the creation of the planet Earth, or extended outwards into infinite space. It has no understanding of galaxies, or clusters of galaxies, or quasars or pulsars or any of the other things that could have easily been mentioned by an omniscient Allah, and left us no room for quibbling.

Any other myths you want beaten to death?

Allah didn't need to talk about all that. He could have had me in one sentence, such as: "We have created light to always have the same speed".

Perhaps someone could explain the science of Muhammad's flying horse, do you think Nasa could use that technology in space, it would be cheaper than rockets.

Also the science behind Mohamed breaking the moon in half with his fingers. It would be awesome to know how that trick is done?

Never heard of either of those, and I say that as someone who has suffered had many years of RE in a Muslim country.

I guess muslims are like christians when it come to their holy book. They only teach the bits they think are defensible.