Do you believe in guardian angels?

[beakerandburette]

I have an 2mo DD and recently I have been finding white feathers in her cot, pram, Moses basket ect. I mentioned it to my mum and she suggested it could be an angel, I'm a little sceptical but I must admit it is a little bit strange.

So do you believe and have you had any experience of this?

[elQuintoConyo]

Yes.

He watches over me while I'm sleeping so I can 'be safe'.

I've seen him: pure white skin, alabaster beauty that sparkles in the sun.

I wish I could write about my experience so others can feel so happy, so connected.









Oh, tits. Stephanie Meyer beat me too it.

[elQuintoConyo]

Damn, rogue 'too' up there ^^

And Cote I think I have a huge not-felt-since-Matt-Goss-sized crush on you

[Ruralninja]

When someone asks if anyone believes in angels, apparently the only correct response is 'yes'. If the OP wanted people to come on here and peddle their feather-wrangling stories, why not just say so? And by the way, the most likely answer is usually the most likely answer, e.g. if you see a white feather somewhere is it more likely that the feather came from a) a pillow, a bird, a cushion or b) a supernatural being only available to some religions? Answer a.

[ballsballsballs]

No.

The appearance of white feathers in this house is usually accompanied by a smug expression on my cat's face.

[CoteDAzur]

elQuinto - Now I'm worried

[lottieandmias]

I agree that people are often disrespectful on these threads. There are certain posters who seem to trawl this board specifically to trample on the beliefs of others. Why do you care so much that not everyone in the world thinks the same way as you? I respect other people's opinions and if they can't respect mine then that is their problem.

In any case, I remember asking ages ago on one of these threads whether anyone could prove they loved their child, for example. None of us can prove that but we all know it to be true.

[Hakluyt]

Disagreeing is not disrespectful.

[Hakluyt]

Neither is pointing out that white feathers are everywhere because most of the feathers in soft furnishings are white, many birds have white under feathers and there are a lot seagulls around, even inland.

[Hakluyt]

And it is certainly not disrespectful to expect anyone who claims to have extraordinary powers, particularly if they charge for them, to offer some supporting evidence for their claims.

[headinhands]

The notion that all beliefs should garner respect is both ridiculous and dangerous. How about the couple who have now killed two children because they preferred prayer to medicine and neglected to seek treatment? Should their beliefs be respected? Believe in angels all you want but don't start taking money off of hurting and confused people in the process.

[IndigoBarbie]

Hak-quite often people disagree, but they don't stick speculation and made up opinion of others in the process.

Head-I don't have supernatural powers and don't think I've said that-nor do I condone not seeing a Dr, just in case your comments were somehow, randomly aimed at me.

[IndigoBarbie]

Apologies head-second part was also for Hukyult.


It's interesting that instead of something positive it's always speculated negative slurs-when clearly you have no experience to share.

[Hakluyt]

"It's interesting that instead of something positive it's always speculated negative slurs-when clearly you have no experience to share"

I don't understand this. I see nothing negative about offering alternative natural(ie overwhelmingly likely) explanations for things rather than overwhelmingly unlikely supernatural ones. Particularly where there is a child involved.

I also see nothing negative in questioning somebody who says they are an energy therapist and charges people money for it. Because there is no such thing. Somebody saying they feel better after a "treatment" is absolutely no proof that the "treatment" does anything.

[lottieandmias]

Yes ignore the derailers. It's the only way.

[Hakluyt]

So. Thread title is "do you believe in guardian angels?" The OP asks whether the presence of white feathers round her baby indicates the presence of a guardian angel.

And anyone who says "no" and/or offers another explanation for the white feathers is derailing??

I am constantly amazed at the closed mindedness of believers in the supernatural.

[CoteDAzur]

"you have every right to talk about your belief system here"

Of course she does. As long as she is clear that it is a belief system, much like a religion. And what she does is a feel-good woo, like prayer. Yes, it makes people feel good about themselves. No, it doesn't actually heal an illness or some other physiological problem.

What Indigo doesn't have a right to is to claim that it is all real. Just like we would also be about someone who claims her prayers heal the sick and charges money for it.

[lottieandmias]

Ah you see there goes the arrogance again 'it's not real'. To you maybe not - do not tell other people your opinion is fact.

These threads are like vaccination threads. If someone says let's agree to differ another says 'no I will not agree to differ!'

[Hakluyt]

But the energy fields Indigo claims to harness are not real!

[CoteDAzur]

"'it's not real'. To you maybe not - do not tell other people your opinion is fact."

Something is either real or it is not.

Opinion has nothing to do with this.

It is not "arrogance" to say something isn't real.

If you think it is real, show me some evidence. If you can't, accept that you have no basis in reality for your convictions.

[lottieandmias]

Different people have different realities. You cannot say that you have lived anyone else's life or had any life experiences but your own. Nobody should have to point that out to anyone really. And what do you think you will achieve in brow beating other people? You won't change anyone's mind to your way of thinking.

Can you prove love is real? I'm sure you can't but you would not dispute that it exists. Because it your own reality of life you've most likely experienced it.

[lottieandmias]

It's obvious too that a lot of people on here don't even know what energy healers actually do. Otherwise you wouldn't be talking about laying on of hands or supernatural powers.

[CoteDAzur]

"Different people have different realities."

Wrong. I am referring to the reality, as in the world or the state of things as they actually exist.

"Can you prove love is real? I'm sure you can't"

Wrong, again.

I can prove love in a laboratory, easily with MRI scans.

[lottieandmias]

All the energy healers that I've ever encountered also do a lot of work for free. The only reason they charge is when you have regular sessions of their time. Just like you would a psychotherapist. You could argue that psychotherapy doesn't necessarily work because you cannot see concrete proof that a person's brain has somehow changed, and yet a lot of us, me included would argue that it worked for us. And yet, some of these therapies do a lot for some people and nothing for others. Because we are all so different.

[lottieandmias]

How exactly can you prove love exists with MRI scans?