Do you believe in guardian angels?

[beakerandburette]

I have an 2mo DD and recently I have been finding white feathers in her cot, pram, Moses basket ect. I mentioned it to my mum and she suggested it could be an angel, I'm a little sceptical but I must admit it is a little bit strange.

So do you believe and have you had any experience of this?

[Hakluyt]

Lottie- no, your dd does not see angels. She has an imaginary friend. Which is lovely- and, if he is anything like the ones my own dd had- will be a tremendous support and comfort to her. He will vanish, like my dd's did, when she no longer has need of him.

[lottieandmias]

That's nice my post was to Indigo. And I don't care what unbelievers think.

[ajandjjmum]

I don't know whether white feathers signify anything, but I think of my Dad when I see one. DD had her 21st garden party recently, and as we were checking the final arrangements, there was a white feather on the lawn. It made me smile and feel that my Dad was there joining the celebrations. And I don't care if it came of one of the millions of pigeons flying overhead - it made me smile. This has happened over the past 11 years, on random occasions, and makes me happy. No harm in that.

[MostWicked]

Why do Guardian Angels leave white feathers?

Why don't they leave a note to say "Hi, GA here, please ask if there's anything I can help with (unless you're poor, then give a spiritualist/faith healer/energy healer etc a call"

But of course, they couldn't do anything that obvious. They're only real to those who believe (bit like Father Christmas)

[CoteDAzur]

I'm curious - Do you people think angels have physical wings of bird feathers? Or that angels go about plucking feathers off birds so they can leave them around for you?

[Hakluyt]

Ah. OK, Lottie. So it wasn't a genuine question, then. Maybe we could have an "only people who will say yes- of course you're right in your beliefs should answer" emoticon. It would save other people trouble.

[Bassetfeet]

It comforts. I don't believe in guardian angels really . But But ...white feathers do appear sometimes so randomly . Yeah most have a rational answer re my feather cushion and pesky but well loved birds around my home . BUT sometimes in deepest distress I find one pure and white on my doorstep . Whether it comes from an angel or not I find it comforting somehow and feel ok and not so alone . Actually writing this it says to me you are part of the universe and nature ..not alone at all .

[CalamityKate1]

I don't believe, no. And even if I did, the feather thing wouldn't make sense.

When do the feathers become visible? When they fall out of the angels wing?? Why then do we never see the moment it falls out and becomes visible - ie a feather appearing in thin air?

Why has nobody ever had an angel feather analysed?
If someone HAS had one analysed and it's turned out to contain angel DNA why do we not know about it?

It's all just so silly!

[lottieandmias]

I didn't say it was a general question. It was a question to someone who has experiences with angels. I really don't care if other people don't believe in angels or a spiritual world - that's up to you. Maybe I wouldn't believe if I didn't have direct experiences. But what I do object to is dogmatic posters thinking they can bend everyone to their inflexible way of thinking - by rudeness, ridicule or worse. Think what you like and I'll think what I like.

Oh and my dd is 11 so way past the age for imaginary friends.

[Hakluyt]

" But what I do object to is dogmatic posters thinking they can bend everyone to their inflexible way of thinking - by rudeness, ridicule or worse. Think what you like and I'll think what I like.

Oh and my dd is 11 so way past the age for imaginary friends."

I wasn't rude, didn't ridicule "or worse". I answered your question. If the only answer to "is what my dd talks about an angel?" you wanted was "yes" then you should have said so. Oh, and 11 is not too old for imaginary friends.

[lottieandmias]

I was asking Indigo - I did make that clear in my post if you read it. I don't want to get into a debate about the existence of angels - it's not what I go on this board to do. If you want to do that fine - you do it with other people who want to.

I wasn't really suggesting you were rude but plenty of people have been rude and obnoxious and nasty to me on these threads before and they always end up the same way. And it's boring. I don't try and force anyone to accept my view of the world.

[CoteDAzur]

lottie - This is a public forum. If you have a question to a specific poster that you want nobody else to get involved with, send her a PM.

[lottieandmias]

You don't need to send a pm - that way everyone gets the benefit of the contributions. Some people on the thread obviously do want to debate angels existence - that's fine. Mine was a quick question to another believer and I got the usual uninvited 'I am right and you are wrong' response with no 'in my opinion' that has become typical on here and is rude.

[lottieandmias]

If people were to say 'In my opinion' I would not have a problem with anything they said at all. But that isn't how it is and we all know that don't we?

[PigeonPie]

I do believe in guardian angels, but not necessarily in the feathers.

I know that mine is my great grannie (whom I'm named after) but I've never asked for help or support. She just seems to know when I need it and I've felt supported at times in my life when I've desperately needed it. I do feel her about at other times too though, just 'being'.

I think that my DSs' angel is my grandfather whom DS1 knew but DS2 wasn't born or even conceived when Grandpapa died (funnily enough both of them have one of his names too). I've felt him about at times when they've needed support (even though they're still quite little) and he was at DS2's baptism which was such a comfort as that was the one sadness - that he would never know my DS2 - in a splendid celebration.

For me they guardian angels are there to support. I don't go round specifically asking my GGrannie to find me things or sort things out, that's for me to do. But I have so benefitted from her love and support for instance, when I had a very tough time after a sad loss and when I've been ill. It's very difficult to explain and is different from the physical love of a spouse and children.

[CoteDAzur]

"If people were to say 'In my opinion' I would not have a problem with anything they said at all"

Do I have to say "In my opinion, unicorns don't exist"?

If not, why not?

[IndigoBarbie]

Living in a reality where there is so much more to what you can physically touch with your hands is so normal now, I think I should actually be challenging those who don't perceive this....and wonder....why don't they prove to me that their opinions of their experiences are the real deal? They can't sense energies? Hah! How very silly of them..........But no, I really don't think making attacking and ridiculous comments online is how I roll.

I have lived almost half a life where none of this existed, and the better half where it does. Without one, I would not have had the other to contrast or determine a frame of reference for my life experiences.

We are all living realities which only we can perceive.

I'm pretty bored with all the naysayers, can't you just keep your opinions to yourselves? Why do my experiences irk you sooooo much that you have to bring me down and prove me stupid? Can't you just allow those of us who wish to discuss and share, just discuss and share???

YES this is a public forum, but there is such a thing as respect for others, and some of that has been very much lost on this thread.

[CoteDAzur]

"Living in a reality where there is so much more to what you can physically touch with your hands is so normal now"

Have you been reading too much young adult sci-fi?

[IndigoBarbie]

@Cote "I am an energy healer..."

grin

What happens is you wave your hands over the bodies of gullible fools, claim you have 'healed' them with an imaginary 'energy', and said gullible fools part with their money.


Cote - Does your heart beat with imaginary energy?

[IndigoBarbie]

Feathers are of the material world - angels are not. They use the material world objects these as 'signs' angels appear to us in a way that is in keeping with how we would recognise them, and this has been shown throughout history as beings with feathery wings.
Just the same way as if your grandfather appeared in your bedroom, he would probably look like the way you remember him. Just so you know it's him.

[headinhands]

so you know it's him

And use words you understand to convey an unambiguous message (or just faff about with taps and keys if he's forgotten)

[IndigoBarbie]

sometimes they just appear with nothing to say.........
But maybe if you heard your passed on loved ones rattle some taps - how can you be sure it was them, and not just lacking in water pressure?

[CoteDAzur]

Oh please. Are we really going to do this?

OK, I'll bite.

There is no imaginary energy in my heart. All energy in my heart and other organs is real and can be measured.

Yours, too. Unless you are claiming to be some other (mutant?) species with magic beating energy in her heart and magic healing energy on her fingertips.

It's a pity that none of this magic energy can be measured and we have to take your word for its existence.

[IndigoBarbie]

Cote, I don't bite at you - you bite at me.

I was being serious. You were making comment about me and my 'imaginary' energy - I was merely pointing out that the energy that beats in your heart/organs etc is not imaginary, it is real and can be perceived by machines and by humans. Humans who are sensitive to energy. That is all.

I never said I could heal anyone. I do transmute energies for others who cannot, allowing them to heal themselves. The term energy healer is slightly misunderstood. We each can only ever heal ourselves.

I'm sorry Cote, I will never be able to prove any of this stuff. Or, if I could then perhaps maybe some scientist type person on MN might assist me to do so? Now, that would be a great experience. Cote, I can't let you see or feel what I can see or feel. It's literally as simple as that.

[CoteDAzur]

This is not biting. This is a reality check. Everything I say can be proven and verified. It is fact.

All this stuff you talk about, the frequency of a guardian angel etc is fiction. At best, you are making it all up. At worst, you actually believe all this rubbish. In any case, none of it is real.

"I will never be able to prove any of this stuff"

I agree with you there. You know why you can't? Because it's not real.