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Who Wrote The Gospels?

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headinhands · 10/04/2014 08:53

"Matthew contains 606 of Markâ??s 661 verses. Luke contains 320 of Markâ??s 661 verses. Of the 55 verses of Mark which Matthew does not reproduce, Luke reproduces 31; therefore there are only 24 verses in all of Mark not reproduced somewhere in Matthew or Luke."

A good diagram here

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rabbitrisen · 23/04/2014 22:40

I see that nobody is denying it.
[capsium, from your posts, you are hardly coming across as a witch]

No one has to deny it of course.

headinhands. If you genuinely have a little faith left, I think you have already been in dangerous territory, God wise, with all your anti God posts over the last couple of years or however long.
To add minimising the effects of witchcraft to your list is very very unwise.

BackOnlyBriefly · 24/04/2014 02:15

If I'm going to be a witch I want to be Granny Weatherwax.

Granny Weatherwax... had walked nightly without fear in the bandit-haunted forests of the mountains all her life in the certain knowledge that the darkness held nothing more terrible than she was.

headinhands · 24/04/2014 06:02

take your pick

Ouija boards are like ghosts stories. They tap into our love of adrenaline and a fear of monsters in the dark that thousands of years of evolution has given us.

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headinhands · 24/04/2014 06:07

minimising the effects of witchcraft

You need to establish that such a thing exists. There is as much evidence for the baddies as there are the goodies, I.e not a shred. Doesn't it concern you that there's no proof of it being harmful?

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headinhands · 24/04/2014 06:12

very very unwise

Maybe your god would be better off putting his energies into healing child cancer patients instead of getting hot under the collar about a 42 year old bore wittering on on mumsnet about the lack of any evidence.

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rabbitrisen · 24/04/2014 06:52

Oh dear. You two are.

deepinthewoods · 24/04/2014 07:13

rabbit- your bogieman isn't others though.
I may tell you that string is evil and to be avoided at all costs.
You take up macrame.
I worry for you because I know that string is evil yet you seem to ignore the warnings.

You may have your christian created devils, but they are a christian construct, like god, and really only really worry christians.

capsium · 24/04/2014 07:17

Back now who's quoting fiction? (yes, I know Terry Pratchett when I see it. I'm not afraid of the dark either.)

capsium · 24/04/2014 07:39

head thought you didn't believe in ghosts? Where does the adrenaline come from? Without any belief, you might as well play scrabble, a least you can have the pleasure of winning. Or take up something that really allows the adrenaline to kick in...BASE jumping? Free running?

capsium · 24/04/2014 08:34

You see I do believe in the supernatural, spiritual realm. However I am not afraid because light overcomes darkness and Jesus 'is the light of the world'. 'Perfect love casts out fear'.

It is like acknowledging the roads can be dangerous, but not fearing, that is, still using them, with care.

I acknowledge the spiritual realm as being part of everyday life, I interact with it through Jesus because I acknowledge it can be dangerous. When I pray I can pray in Faith, that whatever I pray for will be granted, if it is God's will. Built in safety mechanism.

If I got everything I wanted, on my own whim, I might not want what is right, it is easy for emotions to get the better of people at times, we are fallible creatures - this is what I believe is dangerous re. witchcraft.

capsium · 24/04/2014 09:53

Like the old saying goes, 'Be careful what you wish for...'

ShippingForecast · 24/04/2014 09:57

rabbitrisen - not sure if I'm on your 'witch suspect' list? All I can tell you is that if we were sat in a room together, only one of us would have beliefs in the supernatural, and it wouldn't be me.

headinhands · 24/04/2014 12:44

its like acknowledging that roads can be dangerous

No it isn't because I know roads are real. You have no reason to think the spiritual realm exists and that you are able to interact with it, either the fluffy or the spooky side. For your analogy to work you need to compare it with something else that we have no evidence for whatsoever.

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headinhands · 24/04/2014 12:53

caps the monsters in the dark were animals. We've evolved to be extra alert in darkness. And mass media feeds us a diet of ghost stories that play on that vulnerable in the darkness feeling. You don't need to believe it to enjoy it. I love ghosts stories and King Kong but I know none of it is actually real and that I'm allowing myself to be manipulated for entertainment, just as we are when watching a romantic movie.

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rabbitrisen · 24/04/2014 12:55

Glad about that ShippingForecast Smile

rabbitrisen · 24/04/2014 12:58

headinhands. You and I and capsium and BackOnlyBriefly and deepinthewoods[not sure who she is, never seen her before so could be a nc or a new w], know very well that the spiritual realm exists.

headinhands · 24/04/2014 13:20

I don't know. How would I know?

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headinhands · 24/04/2014 13:22

Why is deepinthewoods being singled out now? I thought I was your public enemy número uno?

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rabbitrisen · 24/04/2014 13:35

I love you all. I have only mentioned deepinthewoods once in my whole life as far as I know.

I feel that this thread is now descending into farce.

capsium · 24/04/2014 13:45

head If it helps, you can just think of the spiritual realm as including forces that you cannot see or have not defined. Detecting these elements of life include the hypersensitivity, that you mentioned. I have talked about the definition of 'spirit' before and how much it actually does include. Like when Jesus cursed the fig tree, it died from the root immediately but this was actually seen until the next day. Like how much power words have in everyday life in terms of their effects in encouraging or discouraging people.

For me the supernatural is part of everyday life, so, in a way, quite ordinary. It is only super in the sense that it can be brilliant.

capsium · 24/04/2014 13:46

^was not actually seen. Typo.

BigDorrit · 24/04/2014 14:21

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capsium · 24/04/2014 14:25

BigDorrit I hope you know, I expect you do really, that things exist regardless of your own experience of them. That is, reality exists beyond our realisation of it. There are things outside of human knowledge, human knowledge is not absolute.

BigDorrit · 24/04/2014 14:26

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capsium · 24/04/2014 14:30

Like what BigDorrit, can you prove it?

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