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Who Wrote The Gospels?

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headinhands · 10/04/2014 08:53

"Matthew contains 606 of Markâ??s 661 verses. Luke contains 320 of Markâ??s 661 verses. Of the 55 verses of Mark which Matthew does not reproduce, Luke reproduces 31; therefore there are only 24 verses in all of Mark not reproduced somewhere in Matthew or Luke."

A good diagram here

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headinhands · 14/04/2014 15:14

So caps a baby might die because it didn't have enough faith? A baby might be responsible for its own death because it rejected healing?

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headinhands · 14/04/2014 15:17

Does god always get his will done. Do people only die when it's gods will or live when it's gods will? Do we sometimes thwart his will such as a person living when he wanted them to die on such and such a day or a person dying when he wanted them alive?

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headinhands · 14/04/2014 15:18

Can babies be responsible for their own death because they don't believe? Do babies go to heaven caps?

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capsium · 14/04/2014 15:22

A baby cannot be responsible for it's own death head, although they have the Faith in them, they will not necessarily know how to exercise it yet. So the baby does not have responsibility, as it does not have full ability to respond, yet.

Like other more physical attributes, which exist in a baby from birth, but until the child grows and develops they cannot make full use of them.

capsium · 14/04/2014 15:23

head I believe babies do go to heaven.

headinhands · 14/04/2014 15:40

So the baby dies because it couldn't exercise it's faith yes? How come many many more babies in the third world have difficulty exercising their faith? And how come babies have got much better at exercising their faith in the developed world in the last 100 years?

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capsium · 14/04/2014 15:46

head I've never said, anywhere, medicine can't help too. Just that where Faith is exercised it has positive results, according to my Christian belief.

headinhands · 14/04/2014 15:52

But doesn't that strike you as odd caps that medicine is way way better at looking after people than anything god might want? And also a bit mean? Think how your local community works when just mere humans are at work, people with the most need get the most help. When it's left to god people with the most money and access to health care get the most help.

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capsium · 14/04/2014 15:53

head and haven't we had very similar conversations before?

I cannot force you into Christianity as you cannot force me out of it...is there a point to this discussion? Am I telling you about stuff you didn't know, since you said you used to be a Christian?

headinhands · 14/04/2014 15:54

So babies sometimes die because they couldn't exercise their faith adequately whereas another baby could, and lived?

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capsium · 14/04/2014 15:56

I'm not sure medicine is better head, it cannot treat everything and doesn't fully heal, only treat symptoms.

I've not such a rosy picture of local community either, where the most in need get the help. People with money still can get access to better healthcare. Healthcare is not completely free either.

headinhands · 14/04/2014 15:58

I think it's important to get your opinion down caps. I think it might help others to see your opinion spelled out so clearly in black and white. Is that so bad? Of course feel free to ignore the questions. I assume you are capable of choosing not to read words on a page?

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headinhands · 14/04/2014 15:59

No but it's rosier than your god who helps those who have money way more than those who don't. And I thought he was superior?

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capsium · 14/04/2014 16:00

head possibly some babies can exercise their faith, whether they do so knowingly or not, it is impossible to say for sure. Why do you think some babies live and some die?

headinhands · 14/04/2014 16:00

Do babies sometimes die because they couldn't exercise enough faith caps?

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capsium · 14/04/2014 16:02

My God does not help those with money and those without. Look at who Jesus healed and what He preached.

capsium · 14/04/2014 16:03

^and not those without. Typo.

headinhands · 14/04/2014 16:04

A multitude of reasons, none of them paranormal. And it's people using their logic and reasoning that are improving their chances.

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headinhands · 14/04/2014 16:05

My last post was about the reason why babies die.

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headinhands · 14/04/2014 16:06

Your god cares a lot less about Africa than the UK. That's factual. That's now.

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capsium · 14/04/2014 16:13

Enough head. I believe you are deliberately trying to be controversial, choosing possibly the most emotive subject there is, in a set up to try and get me to say something offensive. Then repeatedly grilling me with the same questions in order to try and trip me up.

However to be offensive there has to be deliberate intent to offend. I do not wish to offend, quite the opposite, and for offence to occur it has to be taken.

Many people have Christian belief and find their Faith a comfort in very difficult situations. I think this should be remembered.

The Bible does contain answers to your questions but you have to seek them, in Faith.

headinhands · 14/04/2014 16:24

What you've worked out caps is that expecting babies to exercise faith to receive healing is ridiculous and that stating as such would be offensive. You, a mere human, knows it would be immoral to set up a system where a baby was somehow responsible for its own life. You didn't have to have this conversation. You could have ignored it. It's not me you're angry with caps.

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capsium · 14/04/2014 16:31

head do not put words in my mouth, how patronising, never mind misleading.

If you look at my posts I said babies do not have responsibility. Here:

"Add message | Report | Message poster capsium Mon 14-Apr-14 15:22:46
A baby cannot be responsible for it's own death head, although they have the Faith in them, they will not necessarily know how to exercise it yet. So the baby does not have responsibility, as it does not have full ability to respond, yet.

Like other more physical attributes, which exist in a baby from birth, but until the child grows and develops they cannot make full use of them."

headinhands · 14/04/2014 16:34

So a baby would never die because it didn't have enough faith?

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headinhands · 14/04/2014 16:38

head possibly some babies can exercise their faith, whether they do so knowingly or not, it is impossible to say for sure. Why do you think some babies live and some die?

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