God's influence

[orangatan]

Have nc for this but only becuase I am busy as it were on other threads.

I am having trouble getting my head around something.

I am a committed christian.

When things go wrong, and I am really just talking about very minor things that other people have done to you, how much of that has been orchestrated by God?
Any of it? None of it? Somewhere in between?

Thanks

God's word will be told to everyone at the end, so they will get their full chance to believe in, and obey God.

The D did try and corrupt Jesus. After Jesus had done 40 days of fasting. But the D didnt win. I presume D knows he wouldnt have a chance of winning with God.

It was God's choice as to which of the Jews died. Worshipping God does not give us immunity from dying.

I will talk more about the op later. I am still formulating further thoughts about it.

So god was implicit in the death of jews.

What do you mean by implicit?

I believe God does heal people nowadays, through Faith. I believe the Redemption we obtain through Christ includes physical as well as spiritual healing.

However it is just that there can be inertia for the spiritual to manifest into the physical, unbelief can work against Faith. You would have to exercise Faith to receive healing through Faith. This does not prohibit consulting doctors either, since God can work through people. Faith can be exercised in a variety of ways. But just as Christians do not behave perfectly in this life, they may not fully receive God's healing.

It is not that God is hands off, we just have to exercise our Faith to receive. This is a learning process. We have to learn more of God to be able to discern what is Faith and what is our own pride.

implicit- involved or connected with.

"It was God's choice as to which of the Jews died"

If god could choore which of the jews died or lived why did he not simply choose to kill none of them?

I don't know why God would choose for people to die prematurely. I don't think He does do this.

Capsium- he has in the past though- during the flood he killed everyone, men women and children except for one owr two. Surely that is killing people prematurely?

We have Redemption through Christ now though.

Sin is death. Leads to it, I mean if a person becomes a slave to it. It is bad for the health.

^Not that all illness is the result of personal sin. Just that sin is not good and is harmful.

As I said before I believe Satan to be the source of bad things.

Somewhere in the bible it says that God chooses when each of us dies. All of us.

Even the jews? Why would he make the choice to kill thouusands in the Holocaust? If they had been christian would they have all lived?

Well the Jews are everyone

Why did he decide that the jews should die then?

Somewhere in the bible it says that God chooses when each of us dies. All of us.

I would have to see that in context. However even a short life can be a full one. Only God knows which death is premature.

Although I believe some deaths are premature and not God's will. Evil is not God's will, if death is the result of an evil act how can this be God's will?

Added to this why did Jesus raise people from the dead if it was God's will they should die, that is their (1st) death was not premature?

But I don't think he did.

Well I do atthestroke, my prerogative, as a Christian. My Faith includes believing in this type of occurrence.

Still curious as to why god didn't save the jews.

I don't know. Some survived. I believe Hitler's ideas were evil.

This is probably the verses I was thinking of.

www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%20139:13-16

Interesting. I have the King James bible at home. Psalm 139 Verse 16 is written like this:

"16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them."

This translation to me communicates how God knows us fully and how, as believers, we are written into the Book of Life. As I recall the italics denote bits that were added in on translation to make sense in English.