YEC part Trois

[PedroYoniLikesCrisps]

So we're still going, perhaps not as YEC as originally, but there's some good debate still occurring! Can we link from previous again?

it fits perfectly with you saying you use science that fits to support your faith and question the rest.

your post of 17.40

But you believe in satan? And Hell?

You also believe in inherent good in everyone, but that if they don't follow your god, they will end up in hell?

And I am not saying DONT question what doesnt fit. I say question that and the stuff that does.

January Do you still question the scientific theory you believe in? Or would you be morel likely to question a theory that fitted in with the Bible? From what I can gather from your posts the latter seems true but I hope not.

Sabrina We don't get to Heaven through good works.

Scientific theory does not require any element of 'belief' daftdame.

So your god condemns people who are good to the Christian idea of Hell?

Sabrina doing good works does not make you good although if you are good you will do good works. It's the intention that counts. Part of being a Christian is questioning your intentions. We can only be sure of redemption through Christ, we can not trust our own intentions.

Sabrina If you defend it you believe it, otherwise you would just point to information that is lacking and call it current theory / thinking.

That is such an awful way to live your life, daftdame. Fearing Hell if you don't "believe" enough. Feeling that you need 'redemption through christ' - and that you can't even trust your own intentions.

I'm always pleased for people who gain comfort through a personal faith, as long as they don't ram it down my throat - but your faith seems to have replaced all your reason.

Re science - there's nothing to believe. A scientific theory must be able to be demonstrated and repeated for it to be a scientific theory.

It is interesting that at our school we would not be required to have a 'conclusion' when writing up experiments, just a discussion.

Sabrina Demonstrated, past tense, could just form a part of a larger pattern.

Whereas at my school we always had a conclusion to our experiments.

Demonstrated and repeated.

You're confusing a scientific theory with a hypothesis.

Sabrina I don't fear Hell, I am saved. The same with intentions, I can now trust my heart as I stay in communion with the Holy Ghost. If I miss God He'll find me again.

Sorry I don't believe in 'reason' (or your brand of it).

I'm not trying to ram anything down your throat just telling you what I believe.

if the entire scientific field, bar 1 or 2, supported a theory I would trust that regardless of whether it supported the bible or not.

Sabrina If the pattern is really big you may not have had enough repetitions.

January Well at least there's hope.

of what

Your light bulb moment January.

daftdame, weren't you trying to convert pedro on the last thread? Denying accepted scientific theory, because it contradicts what is said in the bible is taking leave of your reason, imo.

And if there's not enough repetitions, then it's not called a scientific theory.

Sabrina Who decides if there has been enough repetitions?

Sabrina I can't 'convert' any one . It is their choice what they believe.

Here you are daftdame. Have a read of it this time.

Sabrina Now who's trying to convert who?