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The Muslim Tearoom

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HardlyEverHoovers · 20/03/2013 15:25

Salaams/peace to all! I'm already missing our old thread, so taking the bull by the horns and opening our very own Muslim Tearoom, all welcome (non-Muslims too of course), to chat, share, ask questions etc etc. Imagine a cosy cafe with floor cushions, tea and coffee of all kinds, and lovely cakes! Please join me!

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crescentmoon · 18/09/2013 20:21

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LittleTulip · 18/09/2013 21:32

Firstly, hope I have not hijacked this thread!

peacefuloptimist Thank you very much for that link, it was very useful and inspiring to read the ebook. I appreciate your duaas

crescentmoon I have days when I struggle immensely but lately I have felt a lightness and well-being in myself which is bizarre, like my prayers for strength have been answered. Sometimes it does go round my head as to why this has happened to me and if Allah is punishing me however reading those hadiths and in particular Surah Duha are comforting. Can you explain to me a bit more about the link on dying as a martyr as I don't quite understand the relevance? Smile

In complete honesty with you all I am only just re-discovering Islam/my faith after quite a few years of ignorance and lost in modern ways. These last two years I have discovered prayer, Salah, fasting etc and have never been so content...which is why I sometimes find it even more difficult to comprehend why this has happened when I have been following the righteous path and being a good person. However you guys telling me about Surah Duha etc. really helps cos I am learning.

fuzzywuzzy thanks for the link will follow it up. The first thing my mother said to me when this happened was to give Sadqa

fuzzywuzzy · 18/09/2013 21:54

Ah sis Tulip, we can't understand these things, maybe you'll find out why later maybe you never will.

I am so deeply sorry for your loss, may Allah grant you subrun jameel.

It's recommended to read Surah Yusuf when you are really sad, it brings hope.

May Allah reunite you with your baby in Jannah ul firdous.

May Allah grant you children who will be the coolness of your eyes.

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fuzzywuzzy · 19/09/2013 15:53

I wasn't going to post this, but maybe inshallah it will give you all a little hope.

I’ve been going thro a very lengthy custody battle with ex for my girls.

It’s been five and a half years which at times have felt like my entire life. Certainly my girls have grown up knowing nothing different, my youngest can’t remember a time before court cases and being forced to go see her father every other weekend regardless of her feelings on the matter.

Over the years, the few people who are privy to my personal life keep telling me that I’m so strong, that I must have so much iman, like I’m so special and different.

I am not.

I have had times where I want to throw things and kick and scream and cry, but I can’t, I’d only end up paying for the things I damage and give myself a headache into the bargain.

I have wanted to throw in the towel and walk away, but I couldn’t, how could I abandon my girls to a life of certain cruelty and utter fear devoid of all iman?

I have felt so angry that Allah won’t listen to me, I have come close to ceasing all prayer, but I couldn’t, what kind of example is that for my girls?

Right thro my ordeal I’ve had a close friend who I always turn to when things got bad, I’d pray and then call her and cry to her. A few months back I decided that I wouldn’t do that anymore, there is no one before or after Allah, for me there is just Allah.

On Friday I had what felt like a massive set back, I felt so sad, I had been so hoping it would go well, it would have been an omen for me that everything would go well for the court hearings the following week, then I stopped and thought no, I’m going to rely on Allah and each time I felt sad I just made duas, Oh Allah I am so sad, ease my path for me,

Fa inna ma al usre yusra
Inna ma al usre yusra

“Then indeed with every difficulty there is ease, indeed with every difficulty there is ease”

The night before my court case, I got up for tahajjud and decided to fast, I sat on my prayer mat, and I just spoke to Allah as I would to my friend. “Allah I am so alone, I am so angry at my weakenss and my inability and my nothingness, I can’t protect your amanah, you are our Wali protect us.”

It is so tough making duas when you feel there is no end in sight, I told Allah that I did not know if he was displeased with me and he did not like my duas, or whether he liked my duas and my ibadah and was waiting a while to answer me because he wanted me to continue to ask of him, or whether I was making the wrong duas.
I have been so convinced for so long that I have displeased Allah that I spend a lot of time making istighfar, I told Allah the night before my court case that I would not stop making istighfar and when we meet I will still make istighfar regardless of whether it is considered too late, I have only known Allah as ar Rahman, ar Raheem and unless he turns my heart away I will keep pleading for forgiveness till he forgives me, at some point his mercy has to overcome his displeasure because he has promised it will.

On Monday, the children’s custody hearing commenced. Ex lied and lied and lied some more, I was sitting silently and I had a massive knot in my chest, I just made duas, I asked Allah to be my judge, I asked Allah to protect his amanah, I asked Allah to strengthen my heart for whatever the verdict would be.

Then before going to the witness stand to be cross examined I made the dua that Musa (AS) made before speaking to Pharoah

rabbi ishrah lee sadree (20:25)
Wayassir lee amree (20:26)
Waohlul AAuqdatan min lisanee (20:27)
Yafqahoo qawlee (20:28)

"O my Lord! Open for me my chest (grant me self-confidence, contentment, and boldness).
"And ease my task for me;
"And make loose the knot (the defect) from my tongue, (i.e. remove the incorrectness from my speech)
"That they understand my speech,” Al-Qur'an, 20:025-20:28 (Ta Ha )

I then simply told the truth.

Today we got the judgment, the judge spent two hours, going thro every single point, she had clearly read both massive files of statements and judgments of the five year long case. She had taken into consideration the expert witness statements of the child protection officer representing my girls and the domestic violence intervention programme administrator who had collated data from ex’s attempt at completing a rehabilitation programme, the judge made the most comprehensive judgment I’ve ever heard.

At one point during ex’s cross examination, the judge had noted that ex had told a rehabilitation programme officer that he (ex) had during the marriage criticised me for dressing immodestly. I didn’t bother addressing this issue during my cross examination as it was irrelevant as far as I was concerned with regards the matter of children’s custody. However, it has always caused me a great deal of hurt having my character assassinated by ex like that.
The judge in her summation, said, ‘I found the mother to be a quietly spoken, and modestly dressed Muslim woman who observes hijab..’ I was frankly speechless as this was not necessary for her to put on record but she did, she compared her observations to ex’s accusations, in effect completely refuting ex’s accusations against me.

The entire judgement was like this, everything I had ever complained to Allah over the years in private things I had not addressed yesterday in court, the judge put them in her judgement (she had literally read every single piece of evidence in the two massive trial bundles), she found me to be truthful, she found that I had done everything possible to facilitate contact despite the hardship to me and I showed no bitterness for doing so, she found me to have single handedly bought up my girls very well with no help… It went on....

There have been times when I have been overwhelmed by feelings of hardship, and I’ve tried very hard to remember the patience of Ayoub (AS), his dua has become my bedtime tasbeeh

annee massaniya alddurru waanta arhamu alrrahimeena (21:83)

"Verily, distress has seized me, and You are the Most Merciful of all those who show mercy."
Al-Qur'an, 21:83 (Al-Anbiya [The Prophets])

A week ago I prayed to Allah that I did not have the patience of Ayoub (AS), I begged not to be tested as he had and then I just felt so sad and told Allah that his Prophet’s at least they had the solace of revelation.

Today felt like Allah sent me solace directly.

I’m not worthy of praise, I’m not even sure how on earth I have managed to get this far thro life, everything in my life is Allah’s mercy.

You know when you feel despair and want to stop making duas and stop praying, I’ve literally wanted not to pray salat in defiance, but that was when I most needed Allah, the relief of sujood during those times is indescribable.

I’ve spent the last five years of my life in almost constant istighfar, I’ve learnt duas and duas and duas of so many Prophets (AS), I’ve prayed salat at beginning times regardless, I’ve discovered the best times for nafl fasts and attempted to keep them, I’ve discovered ways to please Allah and I have tried so hard to do them constantly, I’ve watched lectures on youtube to be better, I have begged and pleaded with Allah and turned to him because there is none beside him for me literally.

I’m not the best of people, I am not remarkable, I just have no hope but Allah.

My girls are delighted that Allah has answered our duas, Fatima has taken it very personally, “Allah answered my duas didn’t he mummy?” she asked me today, I told her yes he had indeed.

Jazakallah khair for all your duas.

I’m convinced it’s duas that have helped us.

A life time in thankfulness would not be enough for today. When Allah’s mercy descends there’s no reply really there isn’t.

crescentmoon · 19/09/2013 20:20

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defuse · 20/09/2013 00:45

Fuzzy!!!!

Mashallah sis.

I couldn't just read what you wrote and continue lurking. Mashallah, you showed so much sabr and so much gratitude in that you never stopped seeking the pleasure of Allah. It makes me want to cry and my own feeble lack of effort. May Allah always keep you and your girls happy and safe and reward your patience and perseverance in this life and the hereafter. Ameen.

crescentmoon · 21/09/2013 11:14

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LittleTulip · 23/09/2013 00:47

fuzzywuzzy your scenario has really touched and moved me. I am so pleased that you have a good ending and you have truly been rewarded for your patience. I can totally relate to the feeling of sometimes turning away from Allah, even after lochia I sometimes am finding myself unable to submit myself to God even though I want to and know I should be!
Also I have never even thought of learning duaas that the Prophets used to pray in fact I don't even know if I'm doing is right. I pray some surahs that I know and then just talk to Allah and ask him mercy and forgiveness for myself and others of course.
I must be honest and say that such a calamity as losing my child has never found me. I have had a perfect life, an amazing husband and family, in fact I have had more than I could have ever asked for. I guess situations like these make you look at the bigger picture and it was God's will. Maybe it will change me for the better, it has certainly changed my outlook of life already.

crescentmoon funny you should post a poem by Rumi, I am only just discovering him properly after reading a poem you posted on another thread, think it was Wean Yourself. It really is warming to read and intriguing also. I've been reading 'Essential Rumi' at the mo.

I guess Allah maybe answered one prayer of mine. When pregnant with Ibrahim this Ramadhan all I prayed for was for him to have a long life in this life and the akhira and for him to be pure and 'naik'. I hope and pray that I am blessed with bothers and sisters for him and Allah does have mercy on us all

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GoshAnneGorilla · 27/09/2013 12:23

Salaam, sorry I've not been around for ages. Big, big hugs to Little Tulip and fuzzywuzzy. May Allah grant you both sakina xxxxx

crescentmoon · 28/09/2013 12:01

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LittleTulip · 29/09/2013 20:13

Crescent moon I love reading your posts, I really do learn something new from them! Thanks

crescentmoon · 30/09/2013 12:49

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fuzzywuzzy · 30/09/2013 19:37

I haven't listened to it yet, but that structure of attaining leadership would make a good ruler, no?

If you've known what it is to be amongst the lowliest you will hopefully when at the pinnacle treat others with compassion.

Leaders are meant to serve their people.

I've been undergoing my own personal jihad, getting my butt out of bed and to work is a massive achievement in itself some days!

Need duas also, if you sisters would remember me and my girls in your duas it wil be greatly appreaciated.

BCBG · 30/09/2013 19:58

Have been lurking on this thread out of curiosity and interest, I hope you will all forgive me. As a white British woman, born and brought up a Christian, now lapsed and quite possibly pagan, one would think that I am as far removed from you all as it is possible to be. So I just wanted to break my lurking to say that I am continually amazed and enchanted by the way you speak to each other, by the beauty of your language and the sensitivity of the translated verses you share. Perhaps one day the barriers to understanding that exist will fall when sisters reach across to each other beyond faith. And fuzzy was that judge in the Family Court? I hope so, because I work in the same field, and I would hope that all women who sadly have to go through such trials can draw support from your story, and your explanation of the importance of faith.

fuzzywuzzy · 30/09/2013 22:10

BCBG, yes that judge was in the family court. She was a specialist in cases involving DV, she has my utmost repsect in that she clearly read every piece of evidence in the trial bundle (she in fact did her job).

She gave ex many chances and was very severe with my barrister, but I think she was giving ex leeway as he was representing himself with the help of a McKenzie Friend.

She has my girls deepest gratitude for listening to them (and mine).

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BCBG · 01/10/2013 09:31
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moonbells · 02/10/2013 08:48

Hello everyone. Excuse me popping in and changing subject from the lovely discussion, but I'm sure you can help me! I am trying to sort out catering for my DS's birthday party. At least a quarter of his class are Muslim and I want to source Halal chicken nuggets (pref whole breast) and sandwiches for both children and parents. I am in NW London near Harrow so it shouldn't be hard, but I'm not sure where to start! I can't find any info on supermarket nuggets so am assuming they are hopeless.

Can anyone give me some pointers please or tell me how you cater for your DC? Many thanks! :)

fuzzywuzzy · 02/10/2013 11:19

Moonbells, try the local halal butcher. They usually have nuggets and halal meals in the freezers.

Alternatively tesco also does a halal section (but it should be labelled halal).

mignonette · 02/10/2013 11:31

What an uplifting and educational thread. I am slowly reading my way through it and enjoying the evocative and meaningful passages from your holy book.

I have always found it really interesting seeing how my patients gain strength and identity from their multitude of faiths and witnessing the different rituals and customs associated w/ birth, death and illness.

My stepdaughter is starting her midwifery training in London and I wondered if any of you could recommend a good book/article on Muslim rituals, customs and beliefs about pregnancy and birth? She is keen to learn more but would like to read something written by a Muslim as opposed to a non Muslim interpretation of.

Thank you all so much.

moonbells · 02/10/2013 12:02

Thankyou fuzzywuzzy I shall see what I can find this weekend. The Tesco I went in this morning was hopeless, I might have to try a different branch. My only problem is lack of freezer space at home - might have to buy on the day and drive to the venue!