Reiki

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Has anyone tried Reiki? Could you tell me a little bit about it?

That was pretty much addressed on the first page, seeker.

-Reiki seemed to work for me
-It hasn't been proven to work, scientifically, shown here, here and here.
-Well science hasn't all the answers. It worked for me personally, by a mechanism that I don't understand as an individual or that nobody understands yet. So I'll continue.
-Woo bollox, spaghetti monster, anti enlightenment, more buzzwords, don't you understand logic dear.

So even though it reiki was invented in the 1920s, and the whole reiki master business is a pyramid selling scam and iit has been prove to have no impact in properly conducted double blind trials, you are still prepared to say "well, it works for me" ?

yes of course.
how is it negated?

some people just respond to ritual.

Good to see some polite and reasonable discourse on this thread at last. Love your name, Pardyperson. Do you embody it?

Comfort - if you are really offended and you think a poster's not keeping within the rules, then the simple thing is to just report them.

not really Comfort am having a snippy few days. Must try harder!

Have a massage! Or any complementary treatment really.....cranial osteopathy, perhaps, or acupuncture...it will certainly make you feel less snippy. And more generous towards the rest of the world.

Not sure if anything can cure narcissistic fantasies about being the cleverest person in the world, though.

Shit, now this thread has got me making snidey comments re narcissistic fantasies about being the cleverest person in the world...evil spreads cunningly, doesn't it? Better get my chakras cleaned.

Of course some people respond to ritual. And massage can be relaxing. And lying quietly in a calm environment can make you feel a lot better.

But you are not being healed. The Reiki person is not doing anything except providing the relaxing environment. And it is a lie to claim differently.

Proper discussion at last! Hooray! My chakras (not that I know what they are) feel better already.

Proper discussion- as in sod the evidence, I know what I know?

What do you make of the studies Dollydowser linked to, seeker?

Comfort - can you hear me!

You can complain properly about the rudeness, or not mention them again in this debate.

You can also look on the Randi website for information about whether reiki works.

You've replied to neither of these comments. I may have to take that personally

Okeydokey, I don't mind if you take it personally.

If reiki really were just pyramid selling, would prestigious places like Breast Cancer Haven be providing it to cancer patients?

Here. HRH Prince Charles is patron. No, but seriously.

And I will sit down properly, LeBFG. On the carpet. With my hands in my lap.

As comfort will be the only one left standing because everyone else has got bored of him/her not bothering to respond to questions in this so-called debate at the same time as posting things about posters being rude etc.

I'm off to do something more interesting. Enjoy the carpet comfort.

Signed: bored.

OK, teach.

I don' have pubMed access. But the abstracts of DollyDowser's studies basically say that some cancer patients use CAM, and some of them find relief and comfort from it.

Ditto the Breast Cancer Haven. All sorts of therapies that make people feel better are offered. The BIG difference is that they don't say it cures anything. Nobody is denying that massage, calm environments, peace, time, attention and kindness makes people feel better. What is wrong and a lie is to say thqt is some sort of unexplained process going on, and that healing happens.

Breast Cancer Haven does repeatedly refer to reiki healing.

And the conclusion of the second study DollyDowser linked to says this:

CONCLUSION:

There is growing evidence that energy therapies have a positive effect on symptoms associated with cancer. While there is need for further research, it is clear that an appreciation for the value of research methods beyond the randomized control trial is important.

Who produced that study? Who funded it?

What growing evidence? Who says?

How come no one asked those questions upthread when reports rubbishing reiki were posted? One law for the Woo and another for the Anti Woo?

Maybe the Reiki defenders didn't think to ask? It's the first thing you should ask when somebody offers you a study supporting something!

Energy therapies in oncology nursing.

Coakley AB, Barron AM.

Source

Founders House 345, Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston, MA 01720, USA. [email protected]

Abstract

OBJECTIVES:

To review the published research related to the interventions of Reiki, Therapeutic Touch, and Healing Touch representing energy therapies in relation to oncology nursing.

DATA SOURCES:

Peer-reviewed literature.

CONCLUSION:

There is growing evidence that energy therapies have a positive effect on symptoms associated with cancer. While there is need for further research, it is clear that an appreciation for the value of research methods beyond the randomized control trial is important.

IMPLICATIONS FOR NURSING PRACTICE:

Energy therapies offer additional strategies for oncology nurses providing integrated nursing care to alleviate suffering and symptom distress of patients with cancer.

Copyright © 2012 Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.

PMID: 22281310 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]