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Am fuming probably should be in aibu but

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MillyMollyMoo · 16/04/2010 20:58

Next door caused that much fuss about our puppy last year climbing through the fence and doing his business in their garden and more to the point refusing to fix the shared fence so he couldn't do it, that we rehomed him.
It wasn't the only reason by far but if he'd been able to play in the garden plenty of other issues would have been easier to live with to say the least.
Well they have just informed me they are getting a new dog, not just that but one that grows to 68kg's and poo's like an elephant.
Am so cross they are either going to fix the fence when it suits them to have an animal or think that they are going to inflict the dog on us when our children had to loose theirs

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MrsL123 · 17/04/2010 09:23

Totally agree midori. I have two big labs and all sides of my garden have 3 foot fences, but my dogs would never dream of jumping over them (and one of them is only 11 months, still very much a puppy). They have free access to the garden all day but still wouldn't do it, and even when the gate is open, the dogs don't cross the threshold. The physical boundary might not be there, but they know where they are supposed to stay - and have no desire to go elsewhere when everything they want is right here. At the back there are two unneutered labs, who also wouldn't dream of jumping the fence, even when my girl had her first season a few weeks ago - one of them stood up at the fence constanlty crying for her, but it never crossed his mind to jump over. Both sets of dogs are well loved and exercised religiously twice a day. And not a quick walk around the block - I'm talking at least an hour each time (and we work full time). Next door have two 60kg labs who are never walked - they might get a quick walk around the block once a week when the son comes, if they're very lucky. But mostly they are stuck in the garden barking day in day out. The neighbours are at home all day, but are happy to just let them rot in the garden. They jump the fence frequently, desperately seeking some entertainment, and are impossible to get back into their own garden.

From what I remember you didn't exercise the dog and you obviously didn't want to give him the time of day. I think that is the reason you had so much trouble keeping him under control, not the fence (of lack of). Unless your neighbours hate their dog as much as you 'hated' yours (using your words here, not mine), you shouldn't have a problem.

And FWIW having the fence fixed so you could lock the poor thing outside all day wouldn't have solved any of your problems (apart from keeping your well-kept home nice and tidy, obviously). Walking him and training him would have done, though.

SusanSocks · 17/04/2010 09:37

what was the point of this op?
you got rid of your dog, they are getting a dog

StayFrosty · 17/04/2010 09:55

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hippipotamiHasLost80lbs · 17/04/2010 10:13

Sorry, but I don't buy your 'we could not afford to fence the garden argument'

For starters, did you not think about that before you got a dog. One of the first questions in all puppy manuals is 'Do you have a secure garden or outdoor area'. Emphasis on secure. That means fenced.

Secondly, was your £2K fence quote for the removal of the hedge and putting up of the fence? By far the best solution - and what we did along the lengh of our (120ft) garden when we got our dog was: Cut the hedge back as far as it will go (not heightwise but girthwise), place thick round 6ft high posts at 6ft intervals, drive them deep into the ground for security, But several rolls of green plastic-coated chain link fence and staplegun this to the fence. The hedge will grow thick again, through the fencing, the fencing itself is green so practically invisible, garden is secure, hedge still looks good, dog is happy. Total cost £750. Everyone including neighbours happy. We did this to our shared hedge because the dog was our responsibility.

You chose to get a dog, without securing your garden, without thinking it through. Inevitable problems occurred and you got rid of the dog.
Poor dog. Took the punishment of your stupidity.

And now you have the gall to post 'my neighbours are getting a dog and I can't have mine back' and post a sad face after it?

Sorry, but and

PuppyMonkey · 17/04/2010 10:19

Well, look on the bright side. Maybe you could get another dog now with a nice new fance and everything.

PuppyMonkey · 17/04/2010 10:20

fence, I mean.

VinegarTits · 17/04/2010 10:26

Its doesnt cost 2k to replace a fence (unless you live in a stately home?) i think you made that bit up when people asked why you didnt get the fence fixed

Missus84 · 17/04/2010 10:32

I think what this comes down to, is the OP knows her children will be upset again that she got rid of their dog when they see the neighbour's children have one.

hippipotamiHasLost80lbs · 17/04/2010 11:04

Yes missus, and that is something she needs to live with. We all make bad decisions and have to live with the consequences. But in this case the bad decision affected an animal as well as the OP's children and it could have been avoided. Which is why I am a bit low on sympathy.

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MillyMollyMoo · 17/04/2010 12:34

No vinegar tits I do not need to make anything up, if I just didn't want the dog I would say so and in fact have said he was a handful and it was harder work than I'd expected.

I am upset because it's not fair we were considerate neighbours and when they rightly complained about the poo our dog went and yet less than 4 months later they feel they can inflict the same on us.

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GypsyMoth · 17/04/2010 12:49

so what breed is the new dog?

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MillyMollyMoo · 17/04/2010 12:54

I'm not going to fan the flames, but one with a bad reputation and whilst the dog will apparently belong to the dad, he's at work all day and the dog is bigger than the mother.

I am not saying I wanted our dog, I didn't but DD loved him and we'd have all got on with it if it hadn't have been for the neighbours banging the door and threatening the dog and my DD with another soaking.
Interesting though that I posted on the other thread about that and yet nobody mentioned my dog trespassing there is bugger all you can do about it, but when the shoes on the other foot I just have to put up with it

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MrsL123 · 17/04/2010 13:06

FFS you're creating problems before they even happen, just so you can moan about it! How do you know their dog is going to come into your garden? How do you know it's going to us it as a toilet? How do you know it's going to chase your cats? Breed has got nothing to do with it - there are no bad dogs, only bad owners. I would class you as one of those (I think you would class yourself as one of those, actually). If the new dog is exercised and trained properly (which yours wasn't), there'll be no reason for him to make is own excitement by breaking into someone else's garden, simple fact.

Let's be honest, if they'd moaned about a tree you'd planted so much that you had to take it down, and then went ahead and planted a tree themselves a few months later, you'd be pissed off, wouldn't you? The poor little doggy and poor kids have nothing to do with it - you just feel like they've got one up on you and you can't stand it. The fact it's over the dog has nothing to do with the way you're feeling, you're just pissed off them.

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MillyMollyMoo · 17/04/2010 13:11

What ????
Yeah I'm just bored and want something to moan about, there's so little else going on in my life with 3 kids, an unemployed husband and a baby due in 8 weeks that I'm twiddling my thumbs and looking for a fight with the neighbours via mumsnet which they don't go on.

The beast has arrived, DH has just asked them about their plans to deal with the fence and he walked off so that's a great start.

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SouthMum · 17/04/2010 13:18

Agree you are creating issues where there are none.

What do you mean by the "dog is bigger than the mother" btw, I dont understand I thought it was a puppy........

paisleyleaf · 17/04/2010 13:19

The children ignored the dog anyway.

bronze · 17/04/2010 13:19

Vallhala - very unmn hugs
we lost our last boy on 4th sept 06 and I still have moments where its all I can do not to cry. Its horrible and to hear people like the OP spouting such rubbish doesnt help

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MillyMollyMoo · 17/04/2010 13:23

Puppy's grow, we've googled the breed they grow to between 60 and 70kg's it's fcuking huge.

I know I am worrying in advance but I am due a new baby and the summer holidays are coming up, having resolved my problems I don't need somebody elses quite frankly. Walking off when DH asked about their proposed plans is not a good sign and I know they don't have £2k any more than we did and I also know having discussed it with several people that what we wanted to do with the fence is the only solution.

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Vallhala · 17/04/2010 13:27

Quote my far more intelligent than the OP 14yo DD, who has read both threads with increasing incredulity and disgust, "Walked off? Do you blame him?!".

MMM, you just said, "...we'd have all got on with it if it hadn't have been for the neighbours banging the door and threatening the dog and my DD with another soaking."

BULLSHIT!

You still wouldn't have tolerated the dog you hate (to use your own words) shedding fur on your precious cream carpets.

That was pointed out to you in your other thread but you didn't like it and you called us all a bunch of cunts.

Classy!

I presume that the neighbour's dog is a Rott or a Mastiff or similar. Lovely dogs both, with a decent, responsible, loving owner... but you wouldn't know about that, would you MMM?

Joolyjoolyjoo · 17/04/2010 13:27

I am completely bamboozled by this thread

Firstly, we fenced off a huge area of garden and built a run for our dogs for about £300 (and we have beagles, who are well-known escape artists) So I can't comprehend how it could possibly cost £2K to make a garden dog-proof, unless you have the biggest garden in the UK

Secondly before we had our garden fenced, it wasn't really a problem. The dogs were taken for good long walks every day and taken out for the toilet when they needed, with us with them. There is no absolute necessity to leave a dog in the garden alone. As long as the dog is well exercised, you don't even NEED a garden.

thirdly it seems to me that the OP is using the neighbours as an excuse for rehoming a dog it is apparent she did not want.

And fourthly, the OP is getting worked up about something that hasn't yet happened! In all the time our garden was unfenced our dogs NEVER shat in anyone else's garden- maybe your neighbour will be responsible and take the dog out walks instead of just leaving it in the garden, you don't know. Also is it not likely that since they considered your dog's behaviour to be unacceptable they won't allow their dog to behave that way?

bronze · 17/04/2010 13:28

Well it must be something like a newfoundland or a mountain dog (maybe an akita)then. Big... huge softies. Size does not mean trouble. Though the drool

MrsL123 · 17/04/2010 13:28

'The beast'. Lovely. It's no wonder the neighbours don't want to talk to you.

And I didn't say you were looking for a fight. I said you were pissed off at them for reasons other than missing your poor little doggy - hence me saying you'd be just as pissed off it was over a tree as a dog. If you actually admitted that, you might not get such a frosty reception of people. But sad faces over a dog you hated isn't going to fool anyone.

bronze · 17/04/2010 13:29

or is it a mastiff oh how lovely theyre gorgeous dogs

rainbowinthesky · 17/04/2010 13:29

I really dont get this. Putting aside the fact that you hated the dog and didnt want it your dh has already asked them what they intend to do about the fence when the dog hasnt even been in your garden and you got a dog and let it go in to their garden on numerous occasions and expected them to fork out for this.
The mind boggles.

bronze · 17/04/2010 13:31

Jooly you're right
before we got out latest dog we made sure we had secure 6ft fences but it turns out shes a bolter and jumps them so we walk her regularly and toilet her on a lead (shes a gsdx). Shes perfectly happy, fit and healthy

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