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Call for a General Election-petition exceeds 200,000 signatures

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ForsythiaPlease · 24/11/2024 01:03

In six hours, this is unstoppable-please sign and share
https://t.co/0aZ6Q6VhZD

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700143

https://t.co/0aZ6Q6VhZD

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LastTrainsEast · 24/11/2024 09:25

NOTANUM · 24/11/2024 01:10

This isn’t how UK democracy works.. instead why not engage with the political system we have - go see your MP and petition for change, join a union, set up a political party etc.?

The number of people signing at 1am UK is also suspicious.

A petition cannot force a change of government and nor should it.

However concerned Labour MPs could replace their party leader/PM citing this.

And that IS how democracy works.

Oh and if you meant you thought this was a Russian plot they are only GMT+ 3 in Moscow so would have been 4am for them.

ByMerryKoala · 24/11/2024 09:25

Given the low opinion that people had for the Tory party, it has been quite something to watch Labour managed to burn through all their 'new faces-fresh start' capital so quickly.

A lot of the decisions that they made could have been dialled down a little and caused very few ructions - the wfa wouldn't have raised an eyebrow if the threshold hadn't been made cruelly low. The farmers iht changes was thrown into a budget with piss poor comms.

The whole, 'no worker will...' thing, spectacular own goal. Terrible optics. And the being kitted out by a billionaire sugar daddy. 🤢

And that is just a few acts of the kind of self sabotage that leaves the public agog.

They're like a bull in a china shop.

PandoraSox · 24/11/2024 09:26

The constituency with the highest percentage of signatures is currently Brentwood and Ongar (Con) where a massive 1.086 per cent of constituents have signed.

There may be a debate but there won't be a vote as that is not how these things work. The numpty who started this petition doesn't understand the parliamentary system.

AmICrazyToEvenBother · 24/11/2024 09:28

I'm interested to hear which politicans/political parties don't promise the earth and reneg the minute they're in power? Yet to come across them!

Labour did not get my vote, but they are who the voting public elected. The hair shirt will be ours to wear for the next five years, then everyone gets the chance to vote again. That's just the way it is, you can't subvert democracy.

PandoraSox · 24/11/2024 09:29

it has been quite something to watch Labour managed to burn through all their 'new faces-fresh start' capital so quickly

They have only burned through this mostly in the eyes of people who didn't vote for them. The rest of us know that 14 years of mismanagent can't be put right in a few month. It will take years.

ByMerryKoala · 24/11/2024 09:29

PandoraSox · 24/11/2024 09:26

The constituency with the highest percentage of signatures is currently Brentwood and Ongar (Con) where a massive 1.086 per cent of constituents have signed.

There may be a debate but there won't be a vote as that is not how these things work. The numpty who started this petition doesn't understand the parliamentary system.

I mean, it's not insignificant that 1 in 100 people have woken up on a Sunday and made it one of the first things they did. I won't be signing this, it's a waste of time. But that's not nothing

Aduvetday · 24/11/2024 09:30

I can’t wait for the white paper next week. “Get Britain Working.” I think some full time MN posters who are reliant on welfare will be in for a shock.

My real fear is that genuinely ill people with no choice will end up destitute. Like 100k ish pesnioners, employees with the incoming private sector job losses and some farming families…

First the came for the pensioners, private sector, employers, business, farmers…welfare next.

ByMerryKoala · 24/11/2024 09:30

PandoraSox · 24/11/2024 09:29

it has been quite something to watch Labour managed to burn through all their 'new faces-fresh start' capital so quickly

They have only burned through this mostly in the eyes of people who didn't vote for them. The rest of us know that 14 years of mismanagent can't be put right in a few month. It will take years.

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You don't know that.

search.app?link=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.markpack.org.uk%2F173675%2F17-of-labour-voters-regret-their-vote%2F&utm_campaign=aga&utm_source=agsadl1%2Csh%2Fx%2Fgs%2Fm2%2F4

This was in September though, and prior to the budget

PandoraSox · 24/11/2024 09:32

ByMerryKoala · 24/11/2024 09:29

I mean, it's not insignificant that 1 in 100 people have woken up on a Sunday and made it one of the first things they did. I won't be signing this, it's a waste of time. But that's not nothing

1 in 100 people in a constituency that has been Tory since 1974, when it was first formed.

superplumb · 24/11/2024 09:33

Oh no rich people moaning. Yeah lets stop that, get the tories in so the poor disabled can pay instead, like they have for the last 16 years.

SheilaFentiman · 24/11/2024 09:33

Alltheprettyseahorses · 24/11/2024 09:23

I'm not disagreeing. However, Labour's landslide vote was down half a million on 2019. A party winning an election from the incumbent should really have a higher vote than last time. Like I said, they just lost the least.

Their share was up 1.6%, though, even if absolute numbers were down.

anyway, I don’t think you and I are in that much disagreement.

CaptainRedbeardandbigbadbarry · 24/11/2024 09:33

Isatis · 24/11/2024 09:23

Were you impressed with the Tories? No-one taking over their shitshow was ever going to be able to wave a magic wand to make everything better within 5 months.

No I wasn’t impressed with the Tories. Not one bit.

PandoraSox · 24/11/2024 09:33

I said "mostly". There will be some disgruntled Labour voters.

Aduvetday · 24/11/2024 09:34

superplumb · 24/11/2024 09:33

Oh no rich people moaning. Yeah lets stop that, get the tories in so the poor disabled can pay instead, like they have for the last 16 years.

Are you aware of the white paper next week aimed at reducing the welfare state? No?

Foodie333 · 24/11/2024 09:34

BourbonsAreOverated · 24/11/2024 01:09

Yes this is exactly how democracy works

We are doomed if Labour continues

PandoraSox · 24/11/2024 09:37

Here is a screen shot of some of the petition data, showing where the signatures have come from. I will leave people to draw their own conclusions.

Link here: petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700143.json

Call for a General Election-petition exceeds 200,000 signatures
ByMerryKoala · 24/11/2024 09:37

Aduvetday · 24/11/2024 09:34

Are you aware of the white paper next week aimed at reducing the welfare state? No?

It'll be fine, they've been entirely moderate in their actions and completely willing to listen when they get things wrong 😬

PandoraSox · 24/11/2024 09:41

PandoraSox · 24/11/2024 09:37

Here is a screen shot of some of the petition data, showing where the signatures have come from. I will leave people to draw their own conclusions.

Link here: petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700143.json

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Call for a General Election-petition exceeds 200,000 signatures
Thatladdo · 24/11/2024 09:43

PandoraSox · 24/11/2024 09:37

Here is a screen shot of some of the petition data, showing where the signatures have come from. I will leave people to draw their own conclusions.

Link here: petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700143.json

Edited

Heard of VPN's Pandora?😊

Reif · 24/11/2024 09:43

PandoraSox · 24/11/2024 09:37

Here is a screen shot of some of the petition data, showing where the signatures have come from. I will leave people to draw their own conclusions.

Link here: petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700143.json

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It’s a tiny amount that have registered as signing from foreign countries

PastaAndChill · 24/11/2024 09:43

We've just had one! 😂

ByMerryKoala · 24/11/2024 09:43

Well, if that's the case, that's a real worry. Where did you get that?

Dorisbonson · 24/11/2024 09:45

superplumb · 24/11/2024 09:33

Oh no rich people moaning. Yeah lets stop that, get the tories in so the poor disabled can pay instead, like they have for the last 16 years.

The government spends 17,000 per person on average across the population.

Someone earning 30,000 a year pays about 5,000 a year in income tax and NIC.

Someone earning 130,000 a year pays 49,000 in income tax and NIC.

Its not like high earners dont pay their fair share.

On top of this the person on 30k gets free childcare, housing benefit, child benefit, council tax allowance worth tens of thousands over a year.

The person on 130k doesnt get child benefit, housing benefit, council tax allowance of free childcare so has much higher costs and gets stuffed on stamp duty in the south east.

In other european countries low earners pay much more tax than in the UK. Would be great to start to copy French, Spanish, Belgium, Portugese or Italian tax systems so lower earners paid more into the system.

PandoraSox · 24/11/2024 09:45

Reif · 24/11/2024 09:43

It’s a tiny amount that have registered as signing from foreign countries

It is not a tiny amount. Click on the link and keep scrolling.

Eta, actually you might be right.
Kingdom","code":"GB","signature_count":396095},

Oh well! Sad that so many in the UK don't understand democracy.

BourbonsAreOverated · 24/11/2024 09:46

Saschka · 24/11/2024 09:19

UK farming is not going to go under because Jeremy Clarkson’s kids have to pay a small proportion of Inheritance tax on his millions Hmm

I grew up in a farming area (Kent/Sussex border), most farmers do not own millions of pounds of land each.

wasn’t there something in the news about man of the people old Nigel Farage getting caught up as his is worth 3m