Call for a General Election-petition exceeds 200,000 signatures

[ForsythiaPlease]

In six hours, this is unstoppable-please sign and share
https://t.co/0aZ6Q6VhZD

It’s legal to enter a country by any means if the purpose is to claim asylum and you do so at the first practical opportunity. I’m sure you know that really, it’s been said so many times in so many places now. You can’t just make up the law to suit yourself.

Agreed that seeking asylum is not illegal provided it is done through the proper channels.

The Refugee Convention is clear that it is not illegal to seek asylum in a country despite how you do it. These people are not illegal.

Firstly I would argue that the majority of the public are not willing to pay money to support even genuine asylum seekers.

We are signed up to international treaties which obligate us to help those who seek refuge. We offered refuge to people from Ukraine and people opened their homes so I dispute your argument.

Secondly if such people are genuinely fleeing persecution they why do they feel the need to flee France or are you suggesting that France is a dangerous country that people need to flee from?

People come to the UK because of friends or family, because they speak English or because they want to settle here.

I don't understand people who risk their lives and stay for years in camps when they could claim asylum in France. No, they're not fleeing persecution in France however, there's no obligation to claim asylum anywhere.

Thirdly are you happy to pay money to support economic migrants?

It's the law to process asylum claims. I am in favour of investing in the Home Office to speed up claims.

A lot of Albanians used to come over and they were sent back so they stopped coming. The way to deal with economic migrants is to process their claims quickly and send them home.

@Winter2020
My son ran his own business during Covid but was not eligible for any help. He had to close up and take a personal loan out to cover his liabilities, so the tories certainly only did the bare bones, never mind their atrocious handling of the situation.
My other son was furloughed, and yes he was grateful for that but that was only what other countries were doing, it wasn't exceptional benevolence from the government of the day. As you pointed out, without that sort of help it would have been disastrous for the whole economy.

Not sure why objecting to a government that is damaging the poorer half of society more than the richer half wouldbe right wing?

OK so when we have world peace and solve climate change and poverty we can get a grip on our immigration. Might as well say when Hell freezes over.

The laws around asylum need changing. It needs seriously tightening up.

It is no longer feasible in the modern age, especially with the pressures that climate change will soon bring.

If so many people climb on the raft that it sinks, no one is saved.

The typical petition signer: https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/man-with-12th-century-castle-says-labours-budget-has-made-him-so-angry-386336/

Diddums.

As previous posters have mentioned this is not the way a democracy works. Yes there will be another election but you just have to wait until 2029 for it,

Also presumably the majority of those signing the petition will not have voted for Labour in the first place and secondly those that did vote Labour and have now signed the petition, what did expect would happen.

Sadly there always be people who vote for the opposition in an election on the basis "well they can't do any worse than the current Government " and time and time again they do worse.

Considering this year 48% more migrants have been deported, it’s far better than the Tory’s were doing

pensioners are being means tested for benefits, shame the government haven’t capped the utility companies lower for everyone using heating

free breakfast for school children, they don’t get a say in who they are born to

NME increase will help those on lower income, why should shareholders take all the profit when the likes of Tesco have £2.9bn profit, Next £1nb profit stop with the fake outrage fir these companies being trashed- they’ve profited over liw wages fir far too long

Please change the record 🙄

Are you sure you have the right year?

48% is the year ending June 2024 pre Labour

From gov site

In the year ending June 2024 there were 7,190 enforced returns, an increase of 48% on the previous year (4,873).

Are you against free speech?

Free speech includes the right to tell someone you don't want to hear something.

Brilliant... what happened to the do-over for the Brexit vote... which was swung by lying and misrepresentation and is pretty much the main reason for the massive black hole in our finances 🤣

I don't want to hear your opinion.

The government doesn’t control the energy price cap. That’s OFGEM.

Well done! You've learned what free speech means :)

Speak to the hand.🖐

What's the point? We're fucked no matter what. May as well buckle up. And get drunk

@username8348

"I don't want to hear your opinion."

This is a really good example of the intolerant hard left.

There is only one correct opinion, their opinion and opposing views are shouted down or dismissed as far right etc.

Yours is typical of the hard right. You pretend to want a discussion and then duck out when you're asked to back up your opinions with facts.

No doubt I'll see you around, yet again, ranting about illegal immigrants when you've been informed many times that asylum seekers aren't illegal.

There are many opinions, you prove that, however I listen to informed opinions.

Exactly. There are so many posts like this where people say oh all the lefties are like this bla bla and it just makes me laugh.

@username8348

"You pretend to want a discussion and then duck out when you're asked to back up your opinions with facts."

Facts provided:

Under the Illegal Migration Act 2023
anyone crossing the channel in small boats or other “irregular” means after 20 July 2023 will have their asylum claims declared “inadmissible”, meaning they will not be considered under the UK’s asylum system and the Home Office will not process their claims.

Or in simple terms if you enter the country illegally then you cannot claim asylum under UK laws regardless of what the Refugee Convention says.

Under Section 24 (B1) of the Immigration Act 1971 a person who a) requires leave to enter the UK and b) knowingly enters the UK without such leave commits an offence.

Therefore anyone entering the UK without required leave is committing an offence and anyone committing such an offence cannot claim asylum.

Wasn’t the Illegal Migration Act proved to be…ummm…illegal? International law says you can enter a country by any means to claim asylum. Some Tory showboating doesn’t change that. Plus - have you thought what it means? They can’t be processed and they can’t be sent home without processing. It makes matters worse.

Labour changed the very dodgy law meaning that asylum seekers coming on the small boats can claim asylum. Therefore they're not illegal.

The Immigration Act 71 doesn't apply to asylum seekers as it's not illegal to seek asylum or enter a country to do so.

Economic migrants are coming in illegally because they don't have a visa, they are usually deported. The majority come from Albania.

I'm not sure how the Illegal Migration Act is going to work in reality as it's full of holes and against international law.