To ask if you'd sign petition to ban XL bullies?

[Miajk]

On the back of another thread.

Most fatal dog attacks in the UK have something in common: the breeds involved, largely XL bullies.

These dogs can weigh as much as 50-60 kg (115-135lbs roughly). Before anyone says "it's not the breed it's the owner" - in that case why do statistics clearly show it is the breeds? Why are there no fatal dog attacks involving labradors, golden retrievers, husky dogs? Even German shepherds.

There's a petition to ban them: petition.parliament.uk/petitions/618243

Most likely better for the dogs and everyone around them.

If you can’t control your dog then it’s not the dogs fault is it? It’s the owners….. I can physically stop any of my dogs from killing somebody ofcourse I can. If on the other hand an intruder broke into my property that’s a threat to myself and my children and my dogs have every right to do what they need to do then. I don’t know about you guys but I know my 60kg dogs can defend my child, a jack Russel couldn’t on the other hand…. But will they attack and kill strangers or children for literally NO reason. NO OFCOURSE THEY FUCKING WOULDNT. pit bulls got made illegal becasue of their owners in this country but they’re legal almost everywhere else. So what does that tell you about the dog??? Literally NOTHING. The right trainer could make a Labrador a killing weapon. Its owners faults NEVER the dogs. Argue all you want it’s an argument you guys will LITERALLY never win. “Yawn”

People trying to ban dog breeds are stupid , banning dogs solves nothing it’s the owners who train dogs or mistreat dogs to be like this . Dogs such as pitbull or bullies are reactionary meaning if they are mistreated they become aggressive . Dogs attack people will always happen as people like all of us are not solving the root cause the owners . You all should petition higher levels of punishment or the owners caught with aggressive dogs . My mum owns a dog grooming business for many years and most aggressive dog are the smaller dogs . You obviously dog understand dogs and I believe non of you probably own one by looking at some of the messages on here . Maybe go and research more in dog behaviour and see then what you think as far as I’m concerned you’re all keyboard warriors . I don’t believe any dog should be band and if XL bullies are then they would be huge upset and issues potential people resulting in violence as ur taking away people babies and you are all just wrong people so let hope the corrupt government actually realise for once they are listening to very stupid people who have no idea and start trying to do something before they even thing about the issue and the root cause of the issue . Dog look up to the public owner as a leader and mimic behaviour due to their pack ancestry and if the owner is aggressive so is the dog . And people complaining that they are hard to control when being groomed are muppets as what dog likes being groomed as I’ve said I’ve seen dog my whole life and worked with them in my dog behaviour training and I can inform the dog which I’ve worked with behaviour issues are from pretty much very breed . There is no breed of dog which is dangerous it’s their life experiences that bring them that way . The argument should be ban dangerous humans from owning dogs and when people buy dogs back ground checks should be performed simple and logical which all you guys seems to lack .

The petition owner closed it early for some reason. Not enough signatures by far though. The wording was too ambiguous and needed to be changed.

It's becoming tiresome to listen to people whose proof that they're right and everyone else is wrong boils down to "it's tiresome for me to listen to listen to what I don't want to hear"

This petition is nonsense, plain and simple. Could be used as a textbook example of how NOT to make laws.

I picked my son up from his friends house a few weeks ago and saw they had a puppy. It was an XL bully, although very cute as pup I won’t be letting my son back there. Not worth the risk, I don’t know if they will be bringing it up right - they have a lot of children and a chaotic small house, not an ideal setting for a big and powerful dog.

There needs to be more legislation around dog ownership rather than banning breeds.

If you ban a 'dangerous breed', people will just get another breed which they will treat in the same way and will become equally problematic.

This is a tiresome argument put forward by people who personify/ humanise their dogs.

I love dogs, but dogs are dogs, not people.

You can't say 'of course they wouldn't' do anything. They are not people nor are they friends - they are animals and they have animal instincts. No matter how much you love your dog you don't live in its head and you can't always predict what it will do or how it will react.

Good dog owners know and respect that.

I don't however think that we need to ban any more dog breeds. I think we need to educate people about responsible and safe dog ownership and introduce more regulations around it.

Errrrrr maybe because the idiots that get these type of dogs aren’t into Labradors and husky’s etc the breed isn’t the issue it is the owners and that’s a fact. Statistics where?? This is the most popular breed at the minute so naturally as there are so many dog attacks will rise it’s common sense banning and killing thousands of them won’t help anyway we did that with the pitbull and other breeds in 1991 and guess what ?? It didn’t stop fatal dog attack actually they continued to rise.. plus what difference will banning them make?? All that will happen is it’ll force the market more underground… plus banning them how would that be regulated ?? They are a cross breed so no dna test will be able to prove what they are plus they vary massively in size looks and structure so measurements and looks will be impossible to go on.. really we need to promote dog training and education and some sort of licence for dog owners maybe but killing thousands of innocent dogs is not the answer

All pet ownership should be banned. There is just no need for the masses to be owning animals in this day and age.

My service dog wishes you good luck with that one. You couldn't get a nuttier idea if you tried.

There's always one.
Didn't realise I had to spell it out
For the hard of thinking, I am not including service and working animals in that statement. Solely pets

And you seriously think that is possible? As I said, he wishes you luck with that one. I am not the "hard of thinking" person who thinks you can ban all pets. Oddly, your opinion about what the masses should do is of absolutely no interest to the masses.

Everyone should watch this on the subject: www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001hjbw

I favour bringing in licences, including special breeding licences. I’d also have the dog’s DNA profile on there so irresponsible owners can be prosecuted for not picking up their dog’s shit which could be easily linked back to them.

no they shouldn’t be banned. Labradors bites can be fatal and are up there in top 5 for bites. My xl is soft, gentle with my son, my cats, friendly, trained, socialised. No we shouldn’t be banning dogs on breeds. Next you’ll say ban all mastiffs. Ignorant to blame a whole breed. Blame the backyard breeders who don’t care about temperment and breed the wrong traits into them. The ones who don’t care about anything but money. Who don’t check who they’re going to. The owners who use them as weapons. The owners who don’t know how to handle a large dog. The ones who don’t train or put effort in. They use to blame the dobermans , the Rottweilers, the cane corsos, now it’s our breed & us responsible owners are in fear for our dogs lives because of ignorance like this.

So I'm assuming you have never met one, they are the loveliest, most sweet temperament dogs ever, when raised right. It's a shame people have this pre assumption of them, mine live with cats, young children and other dogs the only danger he holds is a face lick, beautiful breed but I'm assuming you're the type to pick your ha dbag dog up when bigger dogs approach.

YESSS. Will go sign now.

CRAP!!! It's a zombie! Petition is closed.

I don't ever want to meet one ta muchly. You keep gushing about them and how 'sweet' they are though. No-one is going to buy that, no matter how much you try to convince yourself... I shall keep looking for petitions to ban them.

And what a nasty spiteful comment, mocking people who pick up their little dogs when they see one, as they're frightened. You DO sound like a very typical XL Bully owner.

https://www.theweek.co.uk/news/uk-news/959529/the-recent-rise-in-fatal-dog-attacks#:~:text=Are%20attacks%20on%20the%20rise,when%20ten%20people%20were%20killed.

A balanced article on dogs

The breed is well renowned worldwide for having a great temperament, gentle and friendly, it's recognised by the AKC and among anyone familiar them, its a shame people see the minority of bad examples, you'll never ban them but who cares, it doesn't work and along comes the next breed with the wrong temperaturment, my press canario for example in the wrong hands is an extremely dangerous dog.

By picking a dog up you crate unnecessary fear, anxiety and stress in what is more than likely sure to be a friendly encounter, all trainers advise against doing this, it leads to poor socialization and creates unjustified fear which can lead to aggression, we hear the stories all the time, small dog attacks, big dog is blamed, bad owners cause this, the same ones scurrying in fear from larger dogs for no reason.

Yes. If theses petitions worked.

I'd also like all dogs banned.

Tick tock.

They're better off making dog breeding without a licence illegal. No puppy should be able to change hands without the "breeder" being registered. Involving passing a course and paying for a licence, would stop alot of unnecessary puppies being born. Puppies having to legally be neutered (by anyone who buys one who doesn't have a breeding licence) by a year would go a long way to help prevent accidental litters. Would also reduce the insane amount of dogs in rescue centres who have little to no hope of ever finding homes. So many people let their dog no matter what breed, become pregnant purely as a money spinner, and it's disgraceful. The fault usually lies with the breeder. Buying, breeding, selling puppies to people who are not going to be good owners, but only care about lining their pockets. That's the main problem.

I don't know why this keeps being bumped as the petition owner closed the petition early without coming close to gaining enough signatures.

So you want to ban all bullys because a few people can't control them have not trained them and are using them as breeding machines! Sorry but that's not fair! My girl is the most loving dog with the best temperament iv even had police officers cuddling her and stroking her and they say how lovely she is my vets adore her and say she's one of there favourite dogs that come in she's like a big baby and my daughter's best friend iv spent thousands as a puppy with training up till adulthood so how is it fair that she should be banned because of stupid owners wannabe gangsters trying to turn these dogs into weapons! Ban the owners not the dogs!!