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Would you vote to end the monarchy?

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Trezo · 09/03/2020 08:51

At the end of this month Republic is heading to Plymouth and Truro to host screenings of the documentary The Man Who Shouldn't Be King.

The film highlights the real problems Duchy of Cornwall tenants face becaues of the feudal way Prince Charles runs the estate. Making the film has spurred us on to get the Duchy taken off Charles's hands (it's not his private property) and to ensure all Duchy tenants enjoy the same rights as the rest of us.

All our events around the country are part of Republic's Where You Live programme. You can find out more and help us organise more events by donating at www.republic.org.uk/whereyoulive

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PuppyMonkey · 10/03/2020 21:29

Yep bin them all.

And any oh-so-essential political stuff the monarch has to do can be done by, erm, somebody else???

AnotherMurkyDay · 10/03/2020 21:34

Yes we should have had a republic many many years ago. We were forward thinkers politically for centuries but have always had a monarchal blind spot. I'd like to see the money redirected towards the millions of children living in poverty. Or towards building emergency hospital over flow centres. Or both.

SerendipityJane · 11/03/2020 11:14

Funny how Facebooks algorithms work ... this popped up today. Might help those asking "what to replace a monarch with", since these guys actually have done it ...

The President of Ireland
Role and Functions
An Educational Resource

The President of Ireland, Role and Functions is an educational resource produced by the Office of the President with advice from the Department of Education and Science

©The Office of the Secretary General to the President of Ireland 2010

Trezo · 11/03/2020 16:31

Thank you for this video

The young people talking about what a president should be they have had good representation from their president working for the people of of Ireland.

Would be good to have a president an elected head of state.

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Trezo · 11/03/2020 18:18

If you would like Royals to pay for their own visits around U.K. You can sign petition below

Last week Republic commissioned a YouGov poll on who should pay for royal vists around the UK. The answer was clear.

Now we have launched a petition, calling on the government to ensure the royals pay.

You can add your name to the petition at petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300422

You can also forward this email to friends and family and share the petition on social media.

Clear majority want the royals to pay

57% told YouGov that the royals should fund the costs of a royal visit to their local area.

Half the population (49%) would oppose any royal visit if their local council was paying.

The poll comes on the back of recent polls from Australia and Canada, where there are large majorities in favour of the royals paying their own way.

Currently any royal visit around the UK will typically cost a local authority and police force tens of thousands of pounds.

Previous research by Republic showed royal visits cost councils an estimated £22m a year. A visit to Leicester by the Queen in 2012 cost local authorities an estimated £180,000.

So please, sign the petition and let's get the royals to pay their own way.

Visit petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300422

Thank you!

Best wishes

Graham Smith
Chief executive officer
Republic

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Trezo · 11/03/2020 18:19

Sign here

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300422

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roarfeckingroar · 11/03/2020 18:42

No

Trezo · 12/03/2020 06:53

We all got a choice wether we sign to ask they pay for their visits to around the U.K.

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Crissy83 · 12/03/2020 07:21

Absolutely without question. It is the most perfect embodiment of inequality and nepotism.

Trezo · 15/03/2020 14:41

Thank you for all the replies I am glad most think like me that the Royals are a waste of money. They have had their day and more.

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TheWordmeister · 15/03/2020 14:43

Yes, like a shot.

I hate that we still have one.

GinnyStrupac · 15/03/2020 15:01

I've been trying to think what was the turning point for me. I think it was a gradual build up, starting with Charles and Camilla. Austerity and the impact on Social Care, Education, Housing and the NHS. Universal Credit. PIP. The Bedroom Tax. The two child and benefit caps. Zero Hours Contracts. Grenfell Towers. Prince Andrew. And so on.

I can't balance the poor behaviour and outlandish expenditure of the royals with what we are expecting our more vulnerable members of society to endure on a daily basis.

PNomintrude · 15/03/2020 15:04

Nope, I'm a staunch monarchist.

TheClitterati · 15/03/2020 15:06

Yes. The idea of a hereditary monarchy appointed by god etc. Is pure bullshit.

Boogiewoogietoo · 18/03/2020 15:03

Nope, I think the Queen is bloody brilliant.

I love the pomp and ceremony and sense of history.

This country would be lesser without its monarchy.

Trezo · 19/03/2020 13:58

Pomp and circumstance can survive without the need for a monarchy.
The monarchy is a part of our history. But that's what it should be history. It should not be our present or future.

It is a complete and utter myth to claim that the Queen the Windsors are hard working and do a good job.

(This is what they do do)

They conduct several visits a day these visits are frequently little more than an hour, involving cutting a ribbon to open a school, or listening to the Band of the Irish Guards playing sections of music during the afternoon.

As Mark Bolland P Charles former press officer, said "the Windsors are very good at working three days a week five months of the year and make it look as though they work very hard"

Is this something somebody should be paid millions and millions of pounds for?

NB look at the in-depth detail each royal engagement is listed for each member of the Windsor family on the court circular section of the British Monarchy Website.

It is a lovely irony that the Windsors are capable of listing such propaganda in emaculate detail yet are unable to list their expenses and expenditure to such extent!

Extract from book by Liam Finn.

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Boogiewoogietoo · 19/03/2020 19:01

@Trezo

You do realise that the Queen has to get through boxes of dispatches each day keeping her updated on the political/economic situation. She had weekly meetings with the Prime Minister; attends meetings and functions with other Heads of State; and has to be well informed.

Even “just” cutting a ribbon involves being briefed on the background to the project, each of the people she will meet, information about the local area and which royals have visited previously. There is a huge amount of information to be read and absorbed. Do you honestly believe the Queen just rocks up, cuts a ribbon and leaves? Grin

As for the pomp and ceremony surviving, you assert it will but offer no examples. It hasn’t survived in France, Russia, Portugal etc...

Our monarchy still has so much to offer this country and is a huge force for good. Sadly some people are so governed by the politics of envy that they cannot see this.

Trezo · 20/03/2020 10:14

Why shouldn't the monarch 'work hard' that's what they get paid millions and millions for. Being briefed about places they go to isn't that interesting leaning what what folk are up too. And it's not really hard work nurses doctors policeman firefighters work hard and worry about their job security, if they will get home in time to take their son to football training, what they will have to cook for dinner, whether they will be able to afford a new car to replace the old banger that has just broken down in the middle of a big traffic jam. Is this the same for the Windsors? They literally have hundreds of servants to take their children to polo practice. Six liveried footman wearing medals waiting on their dinners and three chauffeurs.

Pomp and circumstance

In fact we can have the same level Pomp in a republic Why couldn't an elected head of state take the salute at the trooping of the colour. Changing of the guard could not an elected HOS give the speech at the opening of parliament? Pomp can servive can thrive without the need for a monarchy.

We have a lot of history to be proud of ... we are told that ours is the mother of all parliaments. We allegedly invented modern democracy Do we want to celebrate being the inventors of the greatest form of government the planet has ever seen or being spineless sycophants to a dysfunctional family?

It's not a force for good I like a democracy having an elected head of state. They have far too much power privilege and enormous amounts of money spent on them. It's not the politics of envy I see greedy grasping monarchy The queen and P Charles also have huge income from the two duchies is that fair in no way is it.

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Gwynfluff · 20/03/2020 10:15

Yes - no place in a modern democratic society and most of them are miserable with the role they are expected to play

KonTikki · 20/03/2020 10:20

No, 'cos I think the alternative would be
1 Boring
2 A sycophantic hasbeen as President
3 Still open to abuse

But the Queen should have retired at the time of her Gplden Jubilee. She is far too old to undertake the role effectively, and she is condemning the country to an old monarchy stretching into the future

GinnyStrupac · 20/03/2020 16:31

HM and PP are very elderly people and I hope they both stay safe and well during the current pandemic, just as I hope everyone stays safe and well. However, hearing of PP being helicoptered to join HM to self isolate at Windsor, while she herself travelled in solo splendour in her chauffeur driven car with her favourite pooch for company, it did strike me as being in sharp contrast to the lives of most vulnerable elderly people in this country. All the royals will have all the food they need, daily access to their medical household including access to testing should they need it, a choice of safe roofs over their heads, and little or no impact on their income or existing wealth. This is while many in the country are struggling to find let alone afford essential items, may well be losing their income and jobs and eventually their homes, could be putting their lives on the line to deliver essential services, have to travel on virus-risky crowded public transport to reach their homes, loved ones and jobs, are struggling to get any direct medical advice at all because the NHS is already overstretched, and won't have access to testing unless they are on their last legs in hospital.

No, we are not 'all doing our bit', and no, we are not 'all in this together'. Most of us are having to do rather a lot more than the royals and most of us are rather more 'in it' - or something that rhymes with it - than the royals too.

I wish them no harm. I wish them all the best. But when we are through the worst of this, it's time for change.

SerendipityJane · 20/03/2020 16:36

It's funny how it can take a crisis to change minds.

Now I hear that Buckingham Palaces 775 rooms are to be given over to the NHS, I feel almost well disposed to the royal family.

Oh, hang on, that's never going to happen is it ? Tourists I guess.

Back to republicanism then.

Trezo · 21/03/2020 06:01

GinnyStrupac Very well put I agree.
SerendipityJane And agree with you too They have a lot of room in Buck House.

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TheGirlFromStoryville · 21/03/2020 06:21

Hang on, doesn't Buck Palace belong to the country? Or is that line just used when it comes to the upkeep costs?

I'd get rid of the royals like a shot. It's like a Ruritainian fairy tale. Archaic.
When one reads up on the royals, all what they own, their powers (eg if any proposed govt action may impact on the royals wealth or property, the royals must be consulted first) I don't see how anyone can support them.
If PA was next in line to the throne there'd be nothing we could do about it. Is that system really what people want?

floffel · 21/03/2020 06:34

Yes