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To ask you to sign this petition about women's prisons

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kendoddsdadsdogsdead18 · 29/10/2018 15:28

You may remember recently the case of Karen White, who is physically a man but self id'ed as a women. White was sent to prison after carrying out a vicious attack and was subsequently housed in the female estate. Within days White raped 2 women and thank god, is now housed in the male estate.

However, there are simply no guarantees that this situation would not happen occur. If self id became the law over here, women in prison,l who are often vulnerable & as a group are statistically to be more likely to have experienced sexual assault will be most at risk. In Ireland where self id is already law transwomen are housed in the male estate. Over here, where self id isn't even law, we have gone one huge step further than Ireland by allowing fully in tact males into the female estate.

In prison showers and getting dressed is open and shared. Personally I could not imagine personally having to shower naked in front of a male bodied stranger. It's bad enough in front of women. I think it says a lot about a society that carefully considers the privacy, dignity and safety of it's most vulnerable members. As I understand it, there are currently male bodied prisoners in every female estate.

If you feel, as I do that prison rules should reviewed, please take a look at and sign this
petition.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/228767

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concretesieve · 02/01/2019 19:22

And up again.

concretesieve · 03/01/2019 18:06

Thursday bump.

concretesieve · 04/01/2019 17:33

Friday bump.

Ereshkigal · 04/01/2019 17:41

Past the 8k mark Smile

whitehandledkitchenknife · 04/01/2019 20:29

Well done that West Brom West voter. Only West Brom East and Dudley North left to colour the whole map.

birdsdestiny · 04/01/2019 22:32

Concretesieve, thankyou for what you are doing here.

concretesieve · 05/01/2019 12:45

8, 299. We're really moving along again. Please keep those signatures coming.

birdsdestiny Thank you Smile Credit to all the wonderful MNers who have campaigned so courageously - and to MNHQ for providing the forum for discussion Flowers Without them, I still really wouldn't be aware of the situation and its implications.

Gentlygently · 05/01/2019 22:18

Wow it has really picked up hasn’t it! It is really noticeable that sharing does work. A thread I posted in FWR just before Christmas caused an increase of 100 in a day or so - I am waiting for another news story to start a thread on the main boards.

ErrolTheDragon · 06/01/2019 00:07

Well, here's another news story ... there's a thread on FWR, I don't know if it's elsewhere or covered by sources other than the mirror yet.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/transgender-rapist-begs-25000-surgery-13818119

Oldstyle · 06/01/2019 00:28

Bumpetty bump. This is so important.

whitehandledkitchenknife · 06/01/2019 14:40

Dudley North has joined. Hurrah. Only West Bromwich East left to complete the colouring in.
Puuuulllllll.

concretesieve · 06/01/2019 21:09

Blimey! 8,653 - over 350 sigs in under 36 hours. Please keep them coming.

ErrolTheDragon · 06/01/2019 21:38

I'd guess the latest re White has prompted some signing and sharing on FB etc.

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 06/01/2019 23:19

8,771! If you haven't signed please, please do! petition.parliament.uk/petitions/228767

Gentlygently · 07/01/2019 08:10
  1. Please do sign and encourage others.
EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 07/01/2019 12:16

8,906.

ErrolTheDragon · 07/01/2019 15:25

8949

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 07/01/2019 19:06

9,013! Less than 1,000 to go before the government respond!

Gentlygently · 07/01/2019 19:06

9000! Nearly there!

nettie434 · 07/01/2019 20:03

I signed this petition and then emailed my MP telling him I had done so (think it was a mumsnetter who suggested doing this). Got reply saying:

I read your email with interest and would be more than happy to pass your thoughts on this matter to the Government Minister responsible for prisons in order for them to be looked into further. Please do let me know if you would like me to do this for you.

I was quite pleased with this as I think it will add to the power of petition which (fingers crossed) is nearly there.

concretesieve · 07/01/2019 20:26

9,031. Another 350 but in under 24 hours this time!

nettie I completely agree - the more direct lobbying (as well as signing the petition) anyone is able to help with, the more MPs will have to start acknowledging the issue. They are there to represent us. I can still barely believe that so many of them seem to be prepared to go along with something that - for the most part - is an ideology.

concretesieve · 08/01/2019 20:24

9,199! Just 801 to go. Please keep signing, sharing and bumping.

Oldstyle · 08/01/2019 21:31

Bump. Please sign & share.

whitehandledkitchenknife · 09/01/2019 20:31

West Bromwich East has completed the map.
700 to go. Keep sharing.

concretesieve · 09/01/2019 20:40

9,301.