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To ask you to sign this petition about women's prisons

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kendoddsdadsdogsdead18 · 29/10/2018 15:28

You may remember recently the case of Karen White, who is physically a man but self id'ed as a women. White was sent to prison after carrying out a vicious attack and was subsequently housed in the female estate. Within days White raped 2 women and thank god, is now housed in the male estate.

However, there are simply no guarantees that this situation would not happen occur. If self id became the law over here, women in prison,l who are often vulnerable & as a group are statistically to be more likely to have experienced sexual assault will be most at risk. In Ireland where self id is already law transwomen are housed in the male estate. Over here, where self id isn't even law, we have gone one huge step further than Ireland by allowing fully in tact males into the female estate.

In prison showers and getting dressed is open and shared. Personally I could not imagine personally having to shower naked in front of a male bodied stranger. It's bad enough in front of women. I think it says a lot about a society that carefully considers the privacy, dignity and safety of it's most vulnerable members. As I understand it, there are currently male bodied prisoners in every female estate.

If you feel, as I do that prison rules should reviewed, please take a look at and sign this
petition.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/228767

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EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 18/11/2018 11:01

5,340. I've just shared this Metro link on FB with a request to sign the petition.

metro.co.uk/2018/11/17/rapist-transgender-woman-sent-to-male-prison-for-uks-most-dangerous-men-8151314

concretesieve · 18/11/2018 13:47

And another bump.

Ereshkigal · 18/11/2018 19:13

5,373

concretesieve · 19/11/2018 15:40

5,408

WatcherOfTheNight · 19/11/2018 15:43

Done ,Thanks for bumping this ,been away for a bit & hadn't seen it .

SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 19/11/2018 19:52

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concretesieve · 20/11/2018 10:48

5,441

concretesieve · 21/11/2018 17:07

5,461. Please keep signing and sharing - there's still a way to go.

KenDoddsDadsDogsDead18 · 21/11/2018 19:01

Thanks to everyone keeping this alive. It's gone up quite a bit since I last checked!

If anyone is sharing this on twitter, you can actually check via the impressions how many people have clicked the link through to the petition. It tells you how many people you might have been responsible for getting to sign it. It can give you an idea of what time of day is best, what sort of tone or whose threads are good to target for extra traffic.

That said I've deleted the twitter app for a few days, for my sanity. I dunno why but twitter doesn't half get to me at times.

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concretesieve · 22/11/2018 15:23

Up we go again. 5,477.

concretesieve · 23/11/2018 17:11

5,485

concretesieve · 24/11/2018 17:11

Today's bump.

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 24/11/2018 23:16

Late night bump. 5,493.

concretesieve · 25/11/2018 13:30

5,499! Just one more signature for the next round 100 and the halfway mark to the next thousand.

ErrolTheDragon · 25/11/2018 17:42

5,500

Onwards and upwards!

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 26/11/2018 05:20

Morning bump.

I'm going to repost these words from FruitCider because they say it all: Prison nurse bumping once again - my patients are really vulnerable and need dignity in prisons - please help us keep them safe by calling for a review of the rules allowing men to be locked into a room with them....

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/228767

concretesieve · 26/11/2018 19:51

Bump for the evening crowd. 5,515

concretesieve · 27/11/2018 19:10

Bumping again.

KenDoddsDadsDogsDead18 · 28/11/2018 21:39

Ministry of justice will be publishing its annual figures on transgender prisoners tomorrow. See Fpfw tweet https://twitter.com/fairplaywomen/status/1067885183158951949?s=21

Bumping petition below:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/228767?fbclid=IwAR3oaVuVklaj7SGRw3eUgb31ZynWgdBSP4OT9AQQb-ZSt8GG82P0kDnDQ

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concretesieve · 29/11/2018 17:58

5,636

KenDoddsDadsDogsDead18 · 29/11/2018 18:29

1 out every 200 prisoners on the female prison estate is...you guessed it....male...

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/228767?fbclid=IwAR30knDH9VrfYA5ZMukg-d6jxI4JCJsZJ5tP8Zc0knrwQ2SxJi5EoW2asqw

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SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 29/11/2018 22:09

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concretesieve · 30/11/2018 11:12

5,693

FruitCider · 30/11/2018 21:58

One in every 200 prisoners in the female estate is male

I think it's probably more than that! That seems a very conservative number I would say.

Bumping once again!

FruitCider · 30/11/2018 22:00

The data was thought to exclude those who had already transitioned and had a full gender recognition certificate.

Ahhh guess my inkling was right. It's probably more like 1%!

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