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Anyone fancy a ‘keeshay’?

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GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 15/10/2026 12:15

Pronunciation of quiche - American recipe on FB! 😂
2nd time I’ve heard it!

Sorry, I couldn’t resist posting.

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toomanycatsforsanity · 19/10/2026 04:34

I met a little girl called Mon ee qua once. Spelled Monique.

PinkPerpetue · 19/10/2026 06:11

PleasantPedant · 17/10/2026 13:40

Why do people say taggy-telly? Can I say contch-iggly?
I do say cal-zone because it is. Grin

I take delight in saying zhwah and kicko,but not grayco.

A privately-educated friend drank sinz-ano

Edited

My mum used to drink sinz-ano and went to restrongs rather than restaurants Grin

PleasantPedant · 19/10/2026 10:40

mathanxiety · 19/10/2026 03:08

There's nothing really wrong with either pronunciation there. They're both honest efforts, and close enough.

Genre is a word that has been taken directly from French, and it could have turned out a lot worse. It might yet.

Sartre isn't a name that crops up much, so if the Sar-truh pronunciation is used and others understand who you're talking about, then surely it's a case of 'job done'?

This is Pedants' corner.

RitaIncognita · 19/10/2026 13:30

PleasantPedant · 19/10/2026 10:40

This is Pedants' corner.

Of course it is. it's also part of the conversation to disagree and to adopt more liberal positions.

@mathanxiety I agree with your posts. I had two years of high school French and three years of French at university (in the US, as an elective and not my major), and I struggle with those "re" endings.

sherbetlemonade · 19/10/2026 13:52

Many years ago in a restaurant with friends, the waitress brought out our dishes and announced one of them as 'louse agony'.😁

PleasantPedant · 19/10/2026 14:20

@RitaIncognita , IRL I'm not too bothered, as long as the meaning is clear, or I might mind but not say anything, but as it's Pedants' corner I feel I can be pedantic.

With names, where does one draw the line? Is saying van Gogh as 'van go' or 'van goff' ok?

MurphysColeslaw · 19/10/2026 14:58

@PleasantPedant We could go fully pretentious with the Dutch version which I’m assuming would be Fan Hoch as in Scottish Loch.

PleasantPedant · 19/10/2026 15:40

I think it would be more like Fan Khokh with the kh softer than the Scottish ch but don't take my word for it.

Is it pretentious? What do we think if someone foreign mispronounces a British name, or doesn't quite get it right?

RitaIncognita · 19/10/2026 16:05

PleasantPedant · 19/10/2026 15:40

I think it would be more like Fan Khokh with the kh softer than the Scottish ch but don't take my word for it.

Is it pretentious? What do we think if someone foreign mispronounces a British name, or doesn't quite get it right?

Or an American one? The last time I was in the UK, there was an incident in the state of Maryland that was being reported internationally, and the British newsreaders to a person said "mary-land." It didn't really bother me too much.

As for Dutch words and names, that is interesting considering that Dutch is the closest major language to English (I realize that Frisian and Scots* are closer), but native English speakers generally seem quite okay with anglicizing Dutch pronunciations, while variations of words from Romance languages seem to be frowned upon in the pedant realm.

*Yes, I consider Scots to be a language.

MrsMoastyToasty · 19/10/2026 17:11

Many years ago I went to visit family on Mull and there was a community event on called something along the lines of "Hunt the Quaich" (Scottish word for a double handled traditional loving cup, pronounced similar to "quake").
Also on was a clan gathering/same surname association meet up. There was a lot of English speaking foreign nationals asking where the Quiche was hidden!

PleasantPedant · 19/10/2026 18:09

@RitaIncognita , the English seem quite ok with anglicising most foreign words. They often don't sound anything like the original, Dutch included.
I'm not English, I'm British.

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