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Anyone fancy a ‘keeshay’?

111 replies

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 15/10/2026 12:15

Pronunciation of quiche - American recipe on FB! 😂
2nd time I’ve heard it!

Sorry, I couldn’t resist posting.

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PleasantPedant · 17/10/2026 13:16

Brushetta and raditchio aren't. I had to ask the speaker what gunotchy and bagelles were.

And why does it always seem to be tangine?

CillianMurphyhasbeautifuleyes · 17/10/2026 13:27

upinaballoon · 17/10/2026 13:12

If you haven't learned Italian you won't know that the 'i' after the 'c' causes the 'c' to make a 'ch' sound.

The same sort of thing happens in English. We often have a soft 'c' if it is followed by 'e' or 'i', but our soft 'c' makes a 'ss' sound.

Yes, I know that, I was just joining in 🤣
Sorry, I don’t mean to sound sarcastic or anything.

I heard someone at work saying see-ah-batta and I flung it ridiculous because it had already been “mainstream” for quite a while.

And then everyone else started saying it 🤦‍♀️🤣

(I knew how to pronounce it already, and learned Italian about 10 years ago.)

PleasantPedant · 17/10/2026 13:40

Why do people say taggy-telly? Can I say contch-iggly?
I do say cal-zone because it is. Grin

I take delight in saying zhwah and kicko,but not grayco.

A privately-educated friend drank sinz-ano

Chersfrozenface · 17/10/2026 13:44

How could it possibly be -ay at the end? There's no acute accent on the e, it's not quiché.

Unless USians are mistaking a French word for Spanish. In which case it should be keetchay, with the ch pronounced as in the English 'cheese'.

PleasantPedant · 17/10/2026 13:47

@Chersfrozenface , an e at the end of words is sounded in many languages.

Error404FucksNotFound · 17/10/2026 13:54

I say keyshh. How's it supposed to be pronounced?

PleasantPedant · 17/10/2026 13:57

Whichever way you like.

Chersfrozenface · 17/10/2026 14:00

PleasantPedant · 17/10/2026 13:47

@Chersfrozenface , an e at the end of words is sounded in many languages.

But not in French.* 'Quiche' is a French word.

My point was that Spanish is the language USians are most familiar with apart from English.

*(Except sometimes in poetry and song lyrics, when it's more like 'uh' anyway.)

PleasantPedant · 17/10/2026 14:08

@Chersfrozenface , I am aware of that but if you listen to how English monoglots say many French words, they mangle a lot of them.
Like Sartre getting said as Sart-ruh and genre zhon-ruh.

Boreded · 17/10/2026 14:49

RaraRachael · 15/10/2026 22:59

@ErrolTheDragon I agree. My friend always says paella like pie-ay-ya. I think it sounds daft as she wouldn't say Paree for Paris or Barthelona.

But I bet you say Ah-nah and Elsa instead of An-a and Elsa…

Meredusoleil · 17/10/2026 15:15

Chersfrozenface · 17/10/2026 14:00

But not in French.* 'Quiche' is a French word.

My point was that Spanish is the language USians are most familiar with apart from English.

*(Except sometimes in poetry and song lyrics, when it's more like 'uh' anyway.)

What is USians?!? Never seen that before 🤔 Do you mean Americans?

RitaIncognita · 17/10/2026 15:16

PleasantPedant · 15/10/2026 22:21

Tchor-eetho

I say "cho-ree-so" (approximate Latin American Spanish pronunciation).

LatteLady · 17/10/2026 15:38

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Chersfrozenface · 17/10/2026 15:46

Meredusoleil · 17/10/2026 15:15

What is USians?!? Never seen that before 🤔 Do you mean Americans?

It's a jocular way of referring to the inhabitants if the USA.

Because America is two continents or one, depending on your cultural background, consisting of 23 countries.

Dontevenlookatme · 17/10/2026 15:55

ErrolTheDragon · 15/10/2026 22:53

English people just don’t sound right when they try to pronounce Spanish words with the th sound. Except for Michael Portillo on account of him also actually being Spanish.

There’s a motorhome YouTuber I follow who calls it chur-eetso. I can understand choreezo (which some Spaniards say) but there’s no language that would pronounce it chureetso.

I’m on the brink of unsubscribing.

RitaIncognita · 17/10/2026 16:15

Dontevenlookatme · 17/10/2026 15:55

There’s a motorhome YouTuber I follow who calls it chur-eetso. I can understand choreezo (which some Spaniards say) but there’s no language that would pronounce it chureetso.

I’m on the brink of unsubscribing.

I know. I think they are trying a somewhat Italian pronunciation for whatever reason. Some royal family channels do something similar with the name of the Queen of Spain, Letizia, by calling her Le-teet-sia.

MurphysColeslaw · 17/10/2026 16:22

Anyone remember the perfume Anaïs Anaïs when it first came out and everyone called it Anay Anay ?

UncleTed · 17/10/2026 16:29

MurphysColeslaw · 17/10/2026 16:22

Anyone remember the perfume Anaïs Anaïs when it first came out and everyone called it Anay Anay ?

That’s what my mum always called it!

Whats the correct pronunciation?

PleasantPedant · 17/10/2026 16:29

@ErrolTheDragon ,he is Spanish and British by citizenship but English by birth and half-Scottish half-Spanish by blood.

It's ok to use the not-quite Spanish pronunciation e.g. port-ee-yo. It's just not likely to sound perfect unless you speak like a native.

@MurphysColeslaw , of course. We also laughed at the hohoba advert.

likelysuspect · 17/10/2026 16:30

MurphysColeslaw · 17/10/2026 16:22

Anyone remember the perfume Anaïs Anaïs when it first came out and everyone called it Anay Anay ?

How do you say it then, thats how I say it.

PleasantPedant · 17/10/2026 16:30

Anna-ees Anna-ees

There was a Blasé scent called 'Blaze'.

EnjoythemoneyJane · 17/10/2026 16:59

Cruh-saant is never not annoying. Ditto foyer, pronounced phonetically by most Americans.

The one that gives me the absolute rage, though, is boo-eee for buoy. This seems to be accepted pronunciation throughout the US, as though someone bravely had a stab at it once, and everyone else just shrugged and said, ‘yep, let’s go with that’. Zero logic - the way they say it doesn’t even resemble the written word. And how do they think it relates to buoyant or buoyancy?!

Hey ho. I should probably just say ‘I could care less’ and move on 😂

Meredusoleil · 17/10/2026 17:14

EnjoythemoneyJane · 17/10/2026 16:59

Cruh-saant is never not annoying. Ditto foyer, pronounced phonetically by most Americans.

The one that gives me the absolute rage, though, is boo-eee for buoy. This seems to be accepted pronunciation throughout the US, as though someone bravely had a stab at it once, and everyone else just shrugged and said, ‘yep, let’s go with that’. Zero logic - the way they say it doesn’t even resemble the written word. And how do they think it relates to buoyant or buoyancy?!

Hey ho. I should probably just say ‘I could care less’ and move on 😂

Shouldn't it be "I couldn't care less"?

EnjoythemoneyJane · 17/10/2026 17:19

Meredusoleil · 17/10/2026 17:14

Shouldn't it be "I couldn't care less"?

Yes, that was kind of my point … in the US they say ‘could’, which makes no sense whatsoever!

RitaIncognita · 17/10/2026 17:26

Yes, that was kind of my point … in the US they say ‘could’, which makes no sense whatsoever!

Some do. Some don't. I don't.

When I say it, I avoid the contraction because I like to emphasize the "not."