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Of of of of of of of of of of

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BrickBiscuit · 21/02/2026 21:14

That's the approximate number of rogue 'of's I have seen on Mumsnet posts today alone. 'Should of', 'would of', even an 'I of' somewhere. It is spread by repetition. Should we counter by correcting every instance we can, and enforce the correct use of 'have' by repetition?

Incidentally, my title is an old crossword clue. Do solve it if you like.

YABU: no, we should leave the 'of' people unchallenged;
YANBU: yes, let's have a campaign to correct each and every instance of the error.

OP posts:
GarlicBound · 21/02/2026 22:21

DuchessofStaffordshire · 21/02/2026 22:18

Quite like listening to one of Trump's speeches, actually.

Yes!! I can't listen to them!

MonstrousRegimentRocks · 21/02/2026 22:21

Aluna · 21/02/2026 22:20

It’s a mute point!

😂

Pigtailsandall · 21/02/2026 22:22

shuggles · 21/02/2026 22:19

The strange thing about "myself" and "yourself" though is that they have the odd effect of softening language. So people sending e-mails often opt to use these incorrectly because they soften the tone.

Note that "I've sent that to yourself" sounds softer than "I've sent that to you."

Tbh I don't think so. They both sound passive aggressive (just let me read it at my own time!) But the poor grammar adds extra annoyance

MonstrousRegimentRocks · 21/02/2026 22:22

Instead of etc
ect
really irritating

IdentityCris · 21/02/2026 22:22

Unforgettablefire · 21/02/2026 21:29

No. Because not everyone is perfect.

But it's just good manners to make the effort to make posts reasonably comprehensible and literate.

KatieKat88 · 21/02/2026 22:22

Alainlechat · 21/02/2026 22:20

No leave it, as others have said it is correct and this conjunction has been in use since the 13th century.

I've clearly skipped a lot of the thread, I'll read back through! It feels wrong though...

HildegardP · 21/02/2026 22:22

Drives me nuts - & I'm dyslexic.

EdithStourton · 21/02/2026 22:22

BrickBiscuit · 21/02/2026 22:14

But this is language degrading, not evolving. Other errors discussed recently are 'factoid' being mistaken to mean a true statement and 'acronym' used for PEMDAS (for example). This means the language no longer has unique words to mean 'something untrue but accepted through repetition' or 'an abbreviation that can be pronounced as a word'.

Precisely.

One of the real pleasures of the English language is the possibility of expressing precise and careful shades of meaning by selecting exactly the right word - cold, chilly, freezing, dank... militiaman, trooper, infantryman, soldier... tree, pollard, coppice, sapling, cordon... raging, furious, angry, livid, fuming...

If you lose the shades of meaning, the language loses precision and vitality.

Smowk · 21/02/2026 22:23

Note that "I've sent that to yourself" sounds softer than "I've sent that to you."

It sounds mental. Like it was written by AI.

AI that was trained on Netmums.

RunningOnEmptyish · 21/02/2026 22:23

You’re and your. Good god, how do so many people not know the difference? They’re, there and their. To, too and two. 😖

CRCGran · 21/02/2026 22:24

It's awful..... I absolutely hate it .... my 6 year old granddaughter said "I would of..." the other day.... she hears it from her mother.... drives me nuts....I first noticed it was becoming commonly used about 15 years ago when I was still working and dealt with a lot of application forms completed by people in their twenties.... Aaaarrrggghhhh !!!!
"OFTEN"

Viviennemary · 21/02/2026 22:25

Well I agree its annoying but correcting people is quite mean. And shouldn't be allowed.

notatinydancer · 21/02/2026 22:25

PurpleCyclamen · 21/02/2026 21:25

I don’t mind it; it’s the oral version of should’ve.

What I can’t stand is ‘reaching out’ instead of ‘asking’.

It’s not though. You shouldn’t say ‘would of ’ any more than you should write it.

CaptainMyCaptain · 21/02/2026 22:25

The use of 'of' is not evolution of language, it makes no sense. You would never say 'of' instead of 'have' in any other context.
I have had my dinner.✅️
I of had my dinner.❌️
I should have had my dinner.✅️
I should of had my dinner. ❌️

It's really not complicated.

The other things like less/fewer, sat/sitting even me/myself, although I hate them, could be regarded as evolution.

Smowk · 21/02/2026 22:25

Viviennemary · 21/02/2026 22:25

Well I agree its annoying but correcting people is quite mean. And shouldn't be allowed.

Try not to start your sentences with ‘and.’

StrongLikeMamma · 21/02/2026 22:26

Smowk · 21/02/2026 22:23

Note that "I've sent that to yourself" sounds softer than "I've sent that to you."

It sounds mental. Like it was written by AI.

AI that was trained on Netmums.

It sounds like people trying to sound smarter, but instead they sound very much the opposite!

IfThen · 21/02/2026 22:26

shuggles · 21/02/2026 22:19

The strange thing about "myself" and "yourself" though is that they have the odd effect of softening language. So people sending e-mails often opt to use these incorrectly because they soften the tone.

Note that "I've sent that to yourself" sounds softer than "I've sent that to you."

Only If you’re semi-literate and don’t mind that you’re actively irritating your addressee.

Pigtailsandall · 21/02/2026 22:26

RunningOnEmptyish · 21/02/2026 22:23

You’re and your. Good god, how do so many people not know the difference? They’re, there and their. To, too and two. 😖

I have (another) colleague who starts every email with "I hope your well...."
It's been three years. No one can bear to point it out.

MonstrousRegimentRocks · 21/02/2026 22:26

Viviennemary · 21/02/2026 22:25

Well I agree its annoying but correcting people is quite mean. And shouldn't be allowed.

How else are they going to learn? It's an act of kindness. How else will someone understand that "draw" doesn't have the same meaning as "drawer" (or loose and lose)?

StrongLikeMamma · 21/02/2026 22:26

Viviennemary · 21/02/2026 22:25

Well I agree its annoying but correcting people is quite mean. And shouldn't be allowed.

It’s not mean. It’s educational.

Unforgettablefire · 21/02/2026 22:27

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 21/02/2026 21:35

I am.

If your name means you’re from the north east it’s possible.

MonstrousRegimentRocks · 21/02/2026 22:27

StrongLikeMamma · 21/02/2026 22:26

It’s not mean. It’s educational.

Quite. It's helpful.

LaMarschallin · 21/02/2026 22:28

Pigtailsandall · 21/02/2026 22:26

I have (another) colleague who starts every email with "I hope your well...."
It's been three years. No one can bear to point it out.

That's reminded me: "bear" and "bare"
"Bare with me"
"No thanks, I hardly know you"

Eta I realise it's used correctly in the post I quoted btw

user1476613140 · 21/02/2026 22:28

DuchessofStaffordshire · 21/02/2026 21:22

My husband and I were talking about it earlier. It was an attempt at humour.

I got it. Shame it was wasted on that poster🤣

nolongersurprised · 21/02/2026 22:29

TheFifthTellytubby · 21/02/2026 22:04

Oh yes, songs .... "It's Christmas time for you and I" ..... I just can't ..... 😤

Run to You

”… if they ever find out about you and I”

I wince, every time.