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Of of of of of of of of of of

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BrickBiscuit · 21/02/2026 21:14

That's the approximate number of rogue 'of's I have seen on Mumsnet posts today alone. 'Should of', 'would of', even an 'I of' somewhere. It is spread by repetition. Should we counter by correcting every instance we can, and enforce the correct use of 'have' by repetition?

Incidentally, my title is an old crossword clue. Do solve it if you like.

YABU: no, we should leave the 'of' people unchallenged;
YANBU: yes, let's have a campaign to correct each and every instance of the error.

OP posts:
notwavingbutdrowning1 · 21/02/2026 22:15

You are defiantly correct.

Oftenaddled · 21/02/2026 22:15

Playingvideogames · 21/02/2026 21:15

Don’t get me started on ‘should try and’

I like "try and". I have the impression it's even more popular in Ireland, where I'm from. It's been around since the 1600s and used by Dryden, Thackeray, Elliot, Hemingway and others. It's not an error, even if some people don't like it.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/were-going-to-explain-the-deal-with-try-and-and-try-to

We're Going to Explain the Deal with 'Try And' and 'Try To'

Just try and stop us

https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/were-going-to-explain-the-deal-with-try-and-and-try-to

LaMarschallin · 21/02/2026 22:16

DuchessofStaffordshire

I think it has something to do with the fact that people seem to (erroneously) remember from school that it's ALWAYS 'Fred and I' even when the 'I' is the object and should be 'me'.

I blame the late Queen.
Or, at least, I blame people impersonating her and saying "May husband and Ay..." in an effort to sound posh or, more commonly, to mock what they think is a posh accent.
They're also the sort of people who end sentences with "dontcha know" for the same reason.

MonstrousRegimentRocks · 21/02/2026 22:16

Devilsmommy · 21/02/2026 22:10

It's the loose instead of lose that really gets on my wick😡

Oh my god. The number of people trying to loose weight!

GreenEyesIsBack · 21/02/2026 22:16

BrickBiscuit · 21/02/2026 21:14

That's the approximate number of rogue 'of's I have seen on Mumsnet posts today alone. 'Should of', 'would of', even an 'I of' somewhere. It is spread by repetition. Should we counter by correcting every instance we can, and enforce the correct use of 'have' by repetition?

Incidentally, my title is an old crossword clue. Do solve it if you like.

YABU: no, we should leave the 'of' people unchallenged;
YANBU: yes, let's have a campaign to correct each and every instance of the error.

My pet hate is incorrect use of apostrophes.

GarlicBound · 21/02/2026 22:16

Morepositivemum · 21/02/2026 21:47

Why do you honestly care? In the grander scheme of things what does you making someone feel less educated do except make people not want to post something that they may have needed proper help with? As someone above said head over to pedants corner- then you can get down to nitty gritty and end up arguing with like minded individuals 😉

Because it jars. It's the reading-in-your-head equivalent of somebody screeching occasional words in their otherwise normal speech. It feels uncomfortable, slows me down as I automatically re-read that part to check the meaning, and it can make me lose the train of what I'm reading.

We've all had to learn to overlook common errors, but they still jar and are still uncomfortable.

Smowk · 21/02/2026 22:16

‘And I….’ for flipping everything winds me up.

I’m not even sure Peaseblossom and Mustardseed had it right though so maybe this is an older problem than we think.

KatieKat88 · 21/02/2026 22:17

Playingvideogames · 21/02/2026 21:15

Don’t get me started on ‘should try and’

DD(6) has the line "We can try and help" for her class assembly. Do I make her learn this or change it to "try to help" and potentially annoy her teacher 😫I don't think I can ignore it as it annoys me so much!

Pigtailsandall · 21/02/2026 22:17

My pet hate is a colleague who keeps saying, "I've sent it yourself..". No. So many people don't know how to use myself/yourself

Devilsmommy · 21/02/2026 22:17

MonstrousRegimentRocks · 21/02/2026 22:16

Oh my god. The number of people trying to loose weight!

Or loosing it at their kids😂

MonstrousRegimentRocks · 21/02/2026 22:17

"he would of of" was on a thread here recently

shuggles · 21/02/2026 22:18

@BrickBiscuit The particularly annoying thing about this is that "should of" and "should've" sound nothing alike. Anyone who thinks they sound the same is a bit silly.

Oftenaddled · 21/02/2026 22:18

Nanny0gg · 21/02/2026 22:03

I and my husband...?

Unconventional but not wrong at all

DuchessofStaffordshire · 21/02/2026 22:18

GarlicBound · 21/02/2026 22:16

Because it jars. It's the reading-in-your-head equivalent of somebody screeching occasional words in their otherwise normal speech. It feels uncomfortable, slows me down as I automatically re-read that part to check the meaning, and it can make me lose the train of what I'm reading.

We've all had to learn to overlook common errors, but they still jar and are still uncomfortable.

Quite like listening to one of Trump's speeches, actually.

Aluna · 21/02/2026 22:19

DuchessofStaffordshire · 21/02/2026 21:17

Yep, very OFTEN indeed.
Myself and hubby was talking about it earlier.

Myself and my partner would of agreed with you and hubster.

My favourite is: “sat here in tears”.

IdentityCris · 21/02/2026 22:19

There was something earlier today with rather an excess of "off ofs".

Andepeda · 21/02/2026 22:19

I saw 'dosent' several times on here yesterday.

shuggles · 21/02/2026 22:19

Pigtailsandall · 21/02/2026 22:17

My pet hate is a colleague who keeps saying, "I've sent it yourself..". No. So many people don't know how to use myself/yourself

The strange thing about "myself" and "yourself" though is that they have the odd effect of softening language. So people sending e-mails often opt to use these incorrectly because they soften the tone.

Note that "I've sent that to yourself" sounds softer than "I've sent that to you."

Aluna · 21/02/2026 22:20

notwavingbutdrowning1 · 21/02/2026 22:15

You are defiantly correct.

It’s a mute point!

Hereforthecommentz · 21/02/2026 22:20

Ignore it! It's an internet message board not an exam paper. I am a terrible speller, always have been, believe me we don't do it to piss people off! Plenty of people have dyslexia too. I expect there are people who just text type as well because it's too long winded to type everything out. I find it rather petty when people point out bad spelling, I'm sure there are things you are bad at too.

Alainlechat · 21/02/2026 22:20

KatieKat88 · 21/02/2026 22:17

DD(6) has the line "We can try and help" for her class assembly. Do I make her learn this or change it to "try to help" and potentially annoy her teacher 😫I don't think I can ignore it as it annoys me so much!

No leave it, as others have said it is correct and this conjunction has been in use since the 13th century.

DuchessofStaffordshire · 21/02/2026 22:21

shuggles · 21/02/2026 22:19

The strange thing about "myself" and "yourself" though is that they have the odd effect of softening language. So people sending e-mails often opt to use these incorrectly because they soften the tone.

Note that "I've sent that to yourself" sounds softer than "I've sent that to you."

It can do, depending on who is sending the message. Often it sounds pompous or ridiculous.

LaMarschallin · 21/02/2026 22:21

Aluna · 21/02/2026 22:20

It’s a mute point!

"It's a moo point. Like a cow's opinion..."

(That quote may not be precisely correct)

PuggyPuggyPuggy · 21/02/2026 22:21

auserna · 21/02/2026 21:32

Eye no wot there c'esting but it hardly helps clear communication.

This. English isn't phonetic. If you're writing or typing, you have to use the right words. Otherwise, who our way spoused two no watt their sane?

And it's not even just that people are spelling it wrong - I often hear people say "would of" quite distinctly. They think "of" is the right word in this context. It's their native language, and they don't seem to be aware of the meaning of the simplest of words.

Smowk · 21/02/2026 22:21

DuchessofStaffordshire · 21/02/2026 22:18

Quite like listening to one of Trump's speeches, actually.

’Bigly’

🤣