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Secketary

118 replies

MyTattooIsBetterThanYours · 05/09/2025 18:05

It isn’t secketary.

It is SECK-RE-TARY.

It doesn’t matter if you’re the Home Secretary or the Foreign Secretary, you are not a Secketary.

It’s going to be a long night.

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Springgreenz · 15/09/2025 18:48

I watched A Place in the Sun recently. A couple were shown round various apartments in Spain. Most of which had a communal pool. Throughout the programme the presenter pronounced communal as communeyall 😳

Seymour5 · 16/09/2025 06:49

Mischievious grinds my gears. As do other words with extra letters, brought and prostrate come to mind.

zazazooms · 16/09/2025 06:55

Lifeinthepit · 06/09/2025 09:37

Badly educated. I don't know why the BBC feel everything needs to be dumbed down as if we are all unable to understand anything unless said in simple terms in a regional accent. Patronising.

I would like to point out that speaking in a regional accent are not wrong or dumbed down or badly educated. Don't equate them even in pedants corner.

Lifeinthepit · 16/09/2025 06:59

zazazooms · 16/09/2025 06:55

I would like to point out that speaking in a regional accent are not wrong or dumbed down or badly educated. Don't equate them even in pedants corner.

Well, I don't think that obviously. But I'm not sure the BBC don't.

MrsJamin · 16/09/2025 07:35

intrepidpanda · 06/09/2025 09:47

Its gar-age

Have you heard of accents? I say gar-ijj and don't take kindly to people telling me that my accent is wrong, thanks.

Pedant5corner · 16/09/2025 08:06

@MrsJamin , I think @intrepidpanda was stating how she said it, not telling you that your accent is wrong.

BrickBiscuit · 16/09/2025 10:02

TheSepticInMe · 08/09/2025 10:11

As opposed to fewer? I'm with you although I have been told, in no uncertain terms 🙄, that either is acceptable because language evolves. You wouldn't have fewer sand though, grains of perhaps, but less sand, fewer lifeguards is as it should be.

Whoever told you using words incorrectly is acceptable as language evolves should of thought more carefully where that might lead.

Pedant5corner · 16/09/2025 10:06

Whoever told you using words incorrectly is acceptable as language evolves should of thought more carefully where that might lead.
Case in point.

Seymour5 · 16/09/2025 14:55

BrickBiscuit · 16/09/2025 10:02

Whoever told you using words incorrectly is acceptable as language evolves should of thought more carefully where that might lead.

Love it.

PistachioTiramisu · 17/09/2025 18:44

Gar-arj
Men-arj
Far-arj
Dam-age

One of my favourite misunderstood words was when a friend told me her sister had had an 'apoplectic pregnancy'!!

MyTattooIsBetterThanYours · 18/09/2025 06:47

Pronunciation isn’t at fault. It is the missing out of a consonant sound that is. Secetary isn’t even phonetic. By the way, I asked my primary school teacher neighbour why is Phonetics not spelled with an F and she gave me so much fluff that I stuffed a cushion with it.

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Pedant5corner · 18/09/2025 10:29

@MyTattooIsBetterThanYours , but pronunciation includes making sure the word sounds right. Seckitary doesn't include the sounds in the word secretary.

BrickBiscuit · 18/09/2025 10:35

Pedant5corner · 18/09/2025 10:29

@MyTattooIsBetterThanYours , but pronunciation includes making sure the word sounds right. Seckitary doesn't include the sounds in the word secretary.

I used to work with posh lawyers. They referred to their secretary as “M’ sec’tree”.

Kuretake · 18/09/2025 12:04

MyTattooIsBetterThanYours · 18/09/2025 06:47

Pronunciation isn’t at fault. It is the missing out of a consonant sound that is. Secetary isn’t even phonetic. By the way, I asked my primary school teacher neighbour why is Phonetics not spelled with an F and she gave me so much fluff that I stuffed a cushion with it.

Didn't she just say that English spellings are not standardised but that, in phonics, she teaches the children that the grapheme ph does in fact represent the sound at beginning of phonetics. What was the fluff?

What is the underlying point you were making to her? Do you think English should be standardised (like Japanese for example) such that there is only one way to write the sound at the beginning of "foam" and "phone"?

BeefAndHorseradishSandwich · 18/09/2025 12:16

I hear secketary and I raise you cuttle-ery (cutlery) 🤦‍♀️

Seymour5 · 18/09/2025 18:38

Not forgetting ath-a-lete.

Pedant5corner · 18/09/2025 22:15

Especially the ones who have meddled.

Seymour5 · 19/09/2025 07:33

😁

Seen today ‘berried’. As in dead and..

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