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Secketary

118 replies

MyTattooIsBetterThanYours · 05/09/2025 18:05

It isn’t secketary.

It is SECK-RE-TARY.

It doesn’t matter if you’re the Home Secretary or the Foreign Secretary, you are not a Secketary.

It’s going to be a long night.

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merryhouse · 06/09/2025 18:19

Memberofstaff · 06/09/2025 15:06

The announcement in our local library says " the whole LieBrary will be closing at ..."

Gives me the rage.

what do you think they should say?

(I use liebree myself. And Febyerry, Wenzdy... GA-rahj or GArridge interchangeably, and I think sekr(u)tree)

mathanxiety · 06/09/2025 20:16

sorrynotathome · 06/09/2025 07:21

I remember when the BBC had strict standards of pronunciation. Now it’s a free-for-all. The other day, a presenter was unable to say “posthumously” and after several attempts, her co-presenter had to say it for her.

Agree, and their online news is sorely in need of a proofreader. If I ever throw a pedants' party, one of the drinking games will involve lapses in BBC grammar, punctuation, and syntax. It will be a hoot and we'll all be hung over for days.

(Edited for fat fingered typo).

Calliopespa · 06/09/2025 20:30

DeeKitch · 05/09/2025 18:31

Sorry I’m a garrij pronouncer - sounds snooty to say gar raj where I’m from 😁

Sounds American to me: gah-RAAAAAge

upinaballoon · 06/09/2025 22:43

Pedant5corner · 06/09/2025 13:07

The media had it in for her. I had mixed opinions about her, but I admired her for what she had achieved.

The media also gave Teresa May a hard time, and they don't like Kemi Badenoch.

I wonder what's the connection.

I don't admire Angela Rayner's grammar or lack of it and while she's being a bit less busy for a while I wish she'd learn that 'properly' is an adverb. I don't want her to lose any accent which she has.

Osmosisfreight · 06/09/2025 22:48

When people use his, instead of he’s.
His got a red jacket on. Drives me up the wall

Osmosisfreight · 06/09/2025 22:50

I also had a friend at school whose family would say yorn rather than yours. They’d say is that yorn? Tbf I’ve never heard anyone else say it, but I’ve always remembered it😂

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 07/09/2025 00:12

Osmosisfreight · 06/09/2025 22:48

When people use his, instead of he’s.
His got a red jacket on. Drives me up the wall

This is dialect though. We say ‘His got his red jacket on’ in Yorkshire, in fact we’d say ‘Is got is red jacket on!’

adventurethisyear · 07/09/2025 01:38

Leave it though. Imagine how your confidence would feel if you had difficulty spelling or pronouncing words and then people kept making threads going on about it.

Pedant5corner · 07/09/2025 08:33

@Osmosisfreight , '(h)is got (h)is red jacket on!’ is accent. It's the writing his for he's that's annoying.

@adventurethisyear , this is in Pedants' corner.

Namechangerage · 07/09/2025 08:36

DeeKitch · 05/09/2025 18:31

Sorry I’m a garrij pronouncer - sounds snooty to say gar raj where I’m from 😁

Yes!! I would never say “gar-raj”, I’d feel like Hyacinth Bucket 🤣

HelpMeGetThrough · 07/09/2025 08:42

Garage as in Farage

EchoedSilence · 07/09/2025 08:47

Osmosisfreight · 06/09/2025 22:50

I also had a friend at school whose family would say yorn rather than yours. They’d say is that yorn? Tbf I’ve never heard anyone else say it, but I’ve always remembered it😂

Yorn is used a lot around here. It's local dialect.

Lifeinthepit · 07/09/2025 09:15

adventurethisyear · 07/09/2025 01:38

Leave it though. Imagine how your confidence would feel if you had difficulty spelling or pronouncing words and then people kept making threads going on about it.

I've got no sympathy if you are a BBC presenter and you say sekety. No excuse whatsoever.

Lifeinthepit · 07/09/2025 09:15

EchoedSilence · 07/09/2025 08:47

Yorn is used a lot around here. It's local dialect.

I quite like that. Is it west country?

EchoedSilence · 07/09/2025 09:21

Lifeinthepit · 07/09/2025 09:15

I quite like that. Is it west country?

No. Midlands.

MyTattooIsBetterThanYours · 07/09/2025 09:26

adventurethisyear · 07/09/2025 01:38

Leave it though. Imagine how your confidence would feel if you had difficulty spelling or pronouncing words and then people kept making threads going on about it.

If you cannot pronounce words correctly, then you should not be paid money to be television news anchor.

Even Ron Burgundy managed to swear beautifully live from the studio.

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TaborlinTheGreat · 07/09/2025 09:28

HotBathwater · 06/09/2025 10:14

It’s ‘restauranteur’, though.

It's actually 'restaurateur'. No 'n'.

I'm not sure about garage. I was brought up saying 'garaj' but.... it sometimes strikes me as being a bit Hyacinth Bouquet try-hard. After all, the French don't have a monopoly on words ending '-age' and we don't pronounce our other '-age' words as '-aj'.

BeyondMyWits · 07/09/2025 09:39

Round here it is Sec-e-tree...

(and Farage is pronounced arse-hole)

And yorn is a contraction of your one.

upinaballoon · 07/09/2025 11:31

EchoedSilence · 07/09/2025 09:21

No. Midlands.

I'm East Midlands and I know yorn for yours.

HelpMeGetThrough · 07/09/2025 11:38

(and Farage is pronounced arse-hole)

🤣

Mydadsbirthday · 07/09/2025 11:59

Do people say "sec-re-tary" or "sec-ret-tree"?

I think I would say the latter.

Pedant5corner · 07/09/2025 12:03

@Mydadsbirthday , ˈsɛkrɪt(ə)ri, ˈsɛkrɪtɛri. I say it nearer SEC-rut-ry.

Mydadsbirthday · 07/09/2025 12:12

HelpMeGetThrough · 07/09/2025 11:38

(and Farage is pronounced arse-hole)

🤣

😂😂

MyTattooIsBetterThanYours · 07/09/2025 12:39

I worked with someone whose surname was Lunt and I had to be very careful when I wrote her name. Email has its benefits

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HelpMeGetThrough · 07/09/2025 12:46

MyTattooIsBetterThanYours · 07/09/2025 12:39

I worked with someone whose surname was Lunt and I had to be very careful when I wrote her name. Email has its benefits

Reminds me of a moment when I was doing some consultancy in front of a roomful (large room too) of people with my laptop projected onto a smart board.

I needed to find out the number of rows in a database table, the query should have been:

select COUNT(*) from Contact

unfortunately my spelling of count was off that day and the query errored. No bugger told me, just sniggered. Never forget that.