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Pedants' corner

Nothing actually wrong with these but..........

265 replies

butterpuffed · 07/04/2025 17:39

............. I hate them!

Having the ick

You do you .

Being the boss of you/him/her

Are there any that you feel strongly about?

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ToThineOwnSelf · 13/04/2025 18:58

Theyreeatingthedogs · 10/04/2025 19:24

Passed. The word is died.

Also followed by ‘away’, ‘on’ and ‘over’

Misorchid · 14/04/2025 20:08

Big sign ‘Pick Your Own’ fruit. No I bloody well won’t.
’Wearing’ a handbag.

Misorchid · 14/04/2025 20:12

niuwyoosername · 08/04/2025 23:58

’pitcher’ instead of picture. ‘Mirow’ instead of mirror.

I use looking glass myself (long ‘a’ as in arse)

mathanxiety · 14/04/2025 20:42

People who dont understand when to use 'that' and when to use 'which'. People whonuse 'that' instead of 'who'.

The entire online BBC News site most days. I've often considered starting a thread where we could find and report the many glaring examples of a ccomplete absence of proofreading and editing

SonoPazziQuestiRomani · 14/04/2025 20:53

mathanxiety · 14/04/2025 20:42

People who dont understand when to use 'that' and when to use 'which'. People whonuse 'that' instead of 'who'.

The entire online BBC News site most days. I've often considered starting a thread where we could find and report the many glaring examples of a ccomplete absence of proofreading and editing

I'm assuming that "whonuse" and "ccomplete" are little pieces of cheese to catch pedants with? Wink🐁🪤

sanityisamyth · 14/04/2025 20:54

Smallmercies · 07/04/2025 18:04

Not using spaces after commas,this is so annoying,or too many spaces , like this , drives me wild!

That is very annoying, but some posters seem to double or triple space all their words. They get blocked as it drives me mad reading them.

Fingernailbiter · 14/04/2025 21:06

MajorCarolDanvers · 07/04/2025 18:34

That is the British pronunciation.

Yes! They had me worried there that I’d been pronouncing it wrongly all these years. I had to look it up to reassure myself.

DinoLil · 14/04/2025 21:08

I liked 'lone behold' today 😁

MumToad · 14/04/2025 21:17

What a wonderful subject …

Like … used as a full stop

you know what I mean … I do but I always wish I wouldn’t have started speaking to you.

with no … i actually avoid books that have it in the title. I always think they can do WITHOUT me.

abit … a bit lazy if you can’t separate words

Babes … Honestly I don’t exactly why but when my SIL calls her beloved Babes I want to say very unkind things to her

Fingernailbiter · 14/04/2025 21:19

ToThineOwnSelf · 13/04/2025 18:57

I’ve just seen on another thread, ‘lone behold’!

Yes, I had an inward scream at that!

MumToad · 14/04/2025 21:27

Thoughtsonstuff · 09/04/2025 13:47

"Munch" is a word that should be banned anyway. Along with "pop". Just pop your shoes off before you come in the house. Why? Have my feet created a vacuum in my shoe that they need to be popped off?

At the GP … Just pop yourself onto the bed. I am sure that my weight could make a lot of things “ go pop “ if I put a little effort in but there’s a time and a place for everything

MumToad · 14/04/2025 21:41

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 08/04/2025 10:01

YY to 'gifted' in the 'I was gifted this' or, even worse, re Christmas 'the season for gifting'.

Where the hell is the verb 'to give' when you want it waving a placard?

I always giggle about giving someone a gift. I am German. The German word Gift ( same pronunciation) means poison. I am gifting gifts to people I feel very strongly about

butterpuffed · 15/04/2025 15:56

I have a new one that's making me inwardly shriek, as I keep coming across it lately .

The culprit is 'money poor'. Why do we have to use this? We don't say 'food poor', 'clothes poor', 'car poor' etc. Oh,hang on ~ we probably will soon 🙄

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ErrolTheDragon · 15/04/2025 16:01

butterpuffed · 15/04/2025 15:56

I have a new one that's making me inwardly shriek, as I keep coming across it lately .

The culprit is 'money poor'. Why do we have to use this? We don't say 'food poor', 'clothes poor', 'car poor' etc. Oh,hang on ~ we probably will soon 🙄

How odd. We do say ‘time poor’, but that’s precisely because it’s not about money.

LarkspurLane · 15/04/2025 16:13

Thoughtsonstuff · 09/04/2025 07:57

Also from the Today programme pronouncing the "patent" of an invention the same way as the pronunciation of a pair of patent shoes.

Those are the same though, aren't they?
Just depends on if you use British or American pronunciation.
I say "paytent" for both.

I hate gifted as a verb. If someone writes it, I ignore the rest of what they say.
Although I have been known to regift things, so I think I need to rethink my whole existence.

mathanxiety · 15/04/2025 16:13

butterpuffed · 15/04/2025 15:56

I have a new one that's making me inwardly shriek, as I keep coming across it lately .

The culprit is 'money poor'. Why do we have to use this? We don't say 'food poor', 'clothes poor', 'car poor' etc. Oh,hang on ~ we probably will soon 🙄

'Time poor', 'period poverty' - these phrases are commonly used, and I think 'money poor' is just an evolution of language that goes hand in hand with 'asset rich'.

You could be 'money poor' but 'asset rich, live in a beautiful house in the country, drive a beaten up old Volvo, wear holey cardigans, and a woolly hat in bed to ward off frostbite.

It's also a roundabout way of expressing the well-worn platitudes that 'money isn't everything' or 'you can't buy happiness'.

ErrolTheDragon · 15/04/2025 16:13

mathanxiety · 14/04/2025 20:42

People who dont understand when to use 'that' and when to use 'which'. People whonuse 'that' instead of 'who'.

The entire online BBC News site most days. I've often considered starting a thread where we could find and report the many glaring examples of a ccomplete absence of proofreading and editing

The distinction between ‘that’ and ‘which’ for restrictive clauses is much less restrictive in U.K. than US English.
I looked it up a couple of days ago after having our US tech writer change a ‘which’ to ‘that’ in something I’d written - not for the first time. Turns out it is considered wrong in US English but is acceptable in British English.
So, you need to not only consider when to use each of these, but also who is using them - correct something that’s meant to be conforming to US English but don’t be unnecessarily pedantic on this point with Brits. It’s a bit like Oxford commas in that regard, I guess.

mathanxiety · 15/04/2025 16:15

DinoLil · 14/04/2025 21:08

I liked 'lone behold' today 😁

I spotted 'as apose to' a few days ago.

mathanxiety · 15/04/2025 16:18

ErrolTheDragon · 15/04/2025 16:13

The distinction between ‘that’ and ‘which’ for restrictive clauses is much less restrictive in U.K. than US English.
I looked it up a couple of days ago after having our US tech writer change a ‘which’ to ‘that’ in something I’d written - not for the first time. Turns out it is considered wrong in US English but is acceptable in British English.
So, you need to not only consider when to use each of these, but also who is using them - correct something that’s meant to be conforming to US English but don’t be unnecessarily pedantic on this point with Brits. It’s a bit like Oxford commas in that regard, I guess.

It's an error that has crept in because people have not been taught grammar and they don't understand how to use the terms.

I remember being drilled for weeks in primary school in Ireland on correct use of 'that' and 'which', but that was back in the days when grammar was considered important.

Another thing that has crept in is the misuse of commas.

ErrolTheDragon · 15/04/2025 16:18

mathanxiety · 15/04/2025 16:13

'Time poor', 'period poverty' - these phrases are commonly used, and I think 'money poor' is just an evolution of language that goes hand in hand with 'asset rich'.

You could be 'money poor' but 'asset rich, live in a beautiful house in the country, drive a beaten up old Volvo, wear holey cardigans, and a woolly hat in bed to ward off frostbite.

It's also a roundabout way of expressing the well-worn platitudes that 'money isn't everything' or 'you can't buy happiness'.

Oh… of course we do use ‘cash poor’ vs ‘asset rich’. I think that’s a better distinction - ‘money’ can mean wealth more generally than liquid cash.

MeAndMyCatCharlotte · 15/04/2025 16:19

'I would be telling her no' instead of 'I would tell her no.'

I see it so often on here and it makes me shudder every time!

mathanxiety · 15/04/2025 16:21

SonoPazziQuestiRomani · 14/04/2025 20:53

I'm assuming that "whonuse" and "ccomplete" are little pieces of cheese to catch pedants with? Wink🐁🪤

If they are, it seems they have accomplished their goal!
Grin
Blush

mathanxiety · 15/04/2025 16:24

ErrolTheDragon · 15/04/2025 16:18

Oh… of course we do use ‘cash poor’ vs ‘asset rich’. I think that’s a better distinction - ‘money’ can mean wealth more generally than liquid cash.

That's true - as a comparator, 'cash poor' works better than 'money poor'.

Perhaps in the age of tap to pay and cards, 'money poor' signifies more a lack of walking-around-cash as opposed to wealth tied up in assets.

mathanxiety · 15/04/2025 16:29

GooseberryBeret · 10/04/2025 11:43

But I honestly think February is in the same category as Wednesday or Leicester - in practice it’s not pronounced how it’s spelled. There are loads of examples in the English language - partly because our spelling is so weird, and partly because in any language when people talk at normal conversational speed they don’t say every consonant and vowel clearly especially if they are in tricky combinations.

I pronounce February as it's spelled.
I pronounce Wednesday 'Wensday' and Leicester 'Lester'.

ErrolTheDragon · 15/04/2025 16:29

mathanxiety · 15/04/2025 16:18

It's an error that has crept in because people have not been taught grammar and they don't understand how to use the terms.

I remember being drilled for weeks in primary school in Ireland on correct use of 'that' and 'which', but that was back in the days when grammar was considered important.

Another thing that has crept in is the misuse of commas.

No, it’s not crept in as an error. It could be seen as one of those Fowlerian pieces of excessive pedantry IMO, and the last paragraph of this piece is really a matter of opinion. A ‘which’ may sound wrong to you and to Americans, but sound and be fine for a Brit.

https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2010/04/which-hunting.html