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Pedants' corner

Nothing actually wrong with these but..........

265 replies

butterpuffed · 07/04/2025 17:39

............. I hate them!

Having the ick

You do you .

Being the boss of you/him/her

Are there any that you feel strongly about?

OP posts:
Smallmercies · 09/04/2025 09:25

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 09/04/2025 08:47

How to wear a red lip!

It’s red lipstick, you sad, sad individual.

A trouser 😫

SonoPazziQuestiRomani · 09/04/2025 09:27

Smallmercies · 09/04/2025 09:25

A trouser 😫

Worse - a pant 😬

Smallmercies · 09/04/2025 09:29

SonoPazziQuestiRomani · 09/04/2025 09:27

Worse - a pant 😬

😵‍💫

Thoughtsonstuff · 09/04/2025 13:44

Smallmercies · 09/04/2025 09:25

A trouser 😫

Agreed. Hideous.

Also "I'm going in" with said red lipstick, for example. This is usually perpetrated by social media influencers when they show you how to "do a red lip"

Thoughtsonstuff · 09/04/2025 13:47

Shodan · 09/04/2025 08:15

I'm back with a couple more.

'Munch on' and its variations. Nobody just eats anything any more- they all munched on sandwiches or whatever.

And 'enjoy!' or enjoy when it's used as a marketing tool- 'enjoy a delicious lunch at our cafe.' It feels a bit dictatorial to me. Why can't I just eat at the cafe and then decide for myself if I've enjoyed it?

"Munch" is a word that should be banned anyway. Along with "pop". Just pop your shoes off before you come in the house. Why? Have my feet created a vacuum in my shoe that they need to be popped off?

MagpiePi · 09/04/2025 16:19

SonoPazziQuestiRomani · 09/04/2025 09:27

Worse - a pant 😬

And, a shoe.

rosemole · 09/04/2025 16:22

Smallmercies · 07/04/2025 18:03

Using early doors to mean early on

What do you mean by this? What should it refer to?

proximalhumerous · 09/04/2025 17:00

Jollyjoy · 08/04/2025 22:14

Not quite what you are asking but the ‘draw’ thing. On a thread just now with the title about a cutlery drawer, there is still someone in the thread talking about their draw. I have to resist saying something so venting here. Sorry.

Yes, I was so tempted to ask them whether they think everybody else is incorrect. To be fair, I think some people simply don't notice these things, but it stuck out like the proverbial sore thumb to me.

printLine · 09/04/2025 17:11

rosemole · 09/04/2025 16:22

What do you mean by this? What should it refer to?

I think the PP means they just don’t like the phrase Early Doors.
I’m not from these parts and it’s used often.
It sounds somewhat ridiculous which is why I love it!

SonoPazziQuestiRomani · 09/04/2025 17:26

"Towards the back end of next week/month/year". Why the unnecessary "back"?

SnowyPetals · 09/04/2025 19:07

Jamie Oliver is guilty of loads of these irritating phrases. One of his recipes, for a lamb casserole, says "go in with the potatoes". Every time I see it, I have a vision of me climbing into the casserole dish next to the potatoes 😂

Emptyandsad · 09/04/2025 22:19

I used to work with someone who would never talk about a subject, she would "talk to" it.

So, "in my presentation I'm going to talk to the issues surrounding the marketing space for our new product range". Made me want to shoot her.

Or myself...

diyisnotmyforte · 09/04/2025 22:26

”I’m so unorganised”

Its DISorganised!!!!!! URGHHHHHHHH

MontyDonsBlueScarf · 10/04/2025 07:11

@Emptyandsad speak to an issue is a perfectly acceptable construction in that context https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/speak-to. Speak is more commonly used than talk but I don't see why talking to shouldn't also be acceptable.

I would understand talking to an issue to mean making relevant and informed comments on it, whereas talking about can include waffling.

Perhaps the distinction is blurred because 'speak' is somehow more intentional and authoritative than 'talk' and 'to' is more focused than 'about', so speak to is focused, talk about is general, and speak about and talk to are hybrids.

GooseberryBeret · 10/04/2025 07:43

Arlanymor · 07/04/2025 17:46

I hate 'having the ick' too and everyone seems to have forgot that it came into common parlance via Ally McBeal!

I hate:

This train/bus terminates here. No... The journey terminates, the method of conveyance doesn't blow up!

Also 'invite' - it's a verb, not a noun, you send someone an invitation!

Thanks for letting me get those off my chest! (Unless you hate the saying 'off my chest' of course!)

I’m late to the pedantry party on this one, but ‘an invite’ is just an abbreviation, like ‘advert’, but with an e on the end to soften it. The stress is on the first syllable, unlike the verb invite.

I agree ‘this train terminates here’ does sound a bit sinister when you think about it.

RobinHeartella · 10/04/2025 07:51

Emptyandsad · 09/04/2025 22:19

I used to work with someone who would never talk about a subject, she would "talk to" it.

So, "in my presentation I'm going to talk to the issues surrounding the marketing space for our new product range". Made me want to shoot her.

Or myself...

Hello, marketing space issues!

It's like "think around" that I've heard sometimes but I wonder if that's regional from the people I've heard say it. "I'll have a think around that". It's think about!

RobinHeartella · 10/04/2025 07:52

GooseberryBeret · 10/04/2025 07:43

I’m late to the pedantry party on this one, but ‘an invite’ is just an abbreviation, like ‘advert’, but with an e on the end to soften it. The stress is on the first syllable, unlike the verb invite.

I agree ‘this train terminates here’ does sound a bit sinister when you think about it.

It's verbing. Like "access". Never used to be a verb.

GooseberryBeret · 10/04/2025 08:11

Smallmercies · 09/04/2025 09:25

Omg, Febuary! It's feb-r-u-ary. And refrectory for refectory.

I never ever hear anyone pronouncing February feb-roo-arry, certainly here in southeast England the standard pronunciation is feb-yuh-ree. Just as no one says wed-nez-day or weddens-day.

Just found this article which may be interesting to geeks: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/why-do-we-pronounce-february-without-the-r-10024195.html

Why do we pronounce February without the 'r'?

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/why-do-we-pronounce-february-without-the-r-10024195.html

upinaballoon · 10/04/2025 09:03

It has been known for a teacher to get children to look at the word Feb ru a ry and then to pronounce the four syllables slowly a few times before speeding up. There's no shame in breaking a word down and practising it, even for an adult. e.g. et cet er a

If you were listening to a 7 year-old reading, what would you do about words which were new to them and seemingly a bit scary?

GooseberryBeret · 10/04/2025 11:43

upinaballoon · 10/04/2025 09:03

It has been known for a teacher to get children to look at the word Feb ru a ry and then to pronounce the four syllables slowly a few times before speeding up. There's no shame in breaking a word down and practising it, even for an adult. e.g. et cet er a

If you were listening to a 7 year-old reading, what would you do about words which were new to them and seemingly a bit scary?

But I honestly think February is in the same category as Wednesday or Leicester - in practice it’s not pronounced how it’s spelled. There are loads of examples in the English language - partly because our spelling is so weird, and partly because in any language when people talk at normal conversational speed they don’t say every consonant and vowel clearly especially if they are in tricky combinations.

upinaballoon · 10/04/2025 13:01

GooseberryBeret · 10/04/2025 11:43

But I honestly think February is in the same category as Wednesday or Leicester - in practice it’s not pronounced how it’s spelled. There are loads of examples in the English language - partly because our spelling is so weird, and partly because in any language when people talk at normal conversational speed they don’t say every consonant and vowel clearly especially if they are in tricky combinations.

I understand what you mean. There wasn't anything angry in my post. I am not suggesting you thought there was but someone might.

I know how to pronounce Cholmondley and Towcester and Hebrides but I probably got them wrong first time. I have never taught English as a foreign language so I don't know what those teachers tell the students about February.

I am rambling a bit. Now, what is the title of the thread? Oh, I've invited some people round for a meeting next week. I have given them an invitation.

How do you all say Wednesday? My way seems to be Wednsday.

Emptyandsad · 10/04/2025 17:59

MontyDonsBlueScarf · 10/04/2025 07:11

@Emptyandsad speak to an issue is a perfectly acceptable construction in that context https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/speak-to. Speak is more commonly used than talk but I don't see why talking to shouldn't also be acceptable.

I would understand talking to an issue to mean making relevant and informed comments on it, whereas talking about can include waffling.

Perhaps the distinction is blurred because 'speak' is somehow more intentional and authoritative than 'talk' and 'to' is more focused than 'about', so speak to is focused, talk about is general, and speak about and talk to are hybrids.

Yeah, I understood what she was saying, I just don't like it. I'm not sure i accept your point about it implying intentionality; i think she just likes to make herself sound like an expert and will always use jargon to

a. big herself up
b. exclude others

She'll never say 'use' when she can say 'utilise', will never say 'people' when she can utilise 'customer-base' or "our market demographic"... she lost us £60k of commission and a valuable partner over a weekend. It wasn't her fault; she was battling a challenging marketplace and needed to apply a hard refocus on business priorities which inevitably led to unfortunate collateral damage

upinaballoon · 10/04/2025 18:15

Ah, the Trendy Wendys of this world.

Theyreeatingthedogs · 10/04/2025 19:24

Passed. The word is died.

ToThineOwnSelf · 13/04/2025 18:57

I’ve just seen on another thread, ‘lone behold’!