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beautifuldaytosavelives · 2022-10-22T12:35:11+00:00

Possibly my most rage inducing Mumsnet phrase. Also very prevalent on FB. Have to sit on my hands so as not to correct people I know. Any takers or do I need to calm down?

TheShellBeach · 19/12/2022 14:56

"Per say" always annoys me, as does "phased" instead of "fazed" - and there is a current thread where the OP has mentioned "pack lunch" and I am in two minds whether or not to draw her attention to this thread.

On balance, probably not...........

ErrolTheDragon · 19/12/2022 15:01

Hobbesmanc · 19/12/2022 14:53

Tea Total. Appears here all the time. And had hoc. And president for precedent.

That prompted me to look for the etymology of 'tee total', which pleasingly also may explain why there is a Cockle Dick's Lane in Southport.

wordhistories.net/2017/01/12/teetotal/

ErrolTheDragon · 19/12/2022 15:06

Star Trek really should have a fazer which doesn't completely stun people/alien lifeforms but merely discombobulates them.

Saltywalruss · 19/12/2022 16:47

ErrolTheDragon · 19/12/2022 15:06

Star Trek really should have a fazer which doesn't completely stun people/alien lifeforms but merely discombobulates them.

How about a lifesaver as well?

TheShellBeach · 19/12/2022 16:57

"Defiantly" instead of "definitely."

"Definately" instead of "definitely."

Anything instead of "definitely".

Why is it so fucking hard to spell?

upinaballoon · 19/12/2022 17:28

Saltywalruss · 19/12/2022 14:51

Mac n cheese

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Is 'mac n cheese' modern American which has come over the ocean? I always called it 'macaroni cheese'. That seemed to describe it adequately.

EnyoClytemnestra · 19/12/2022 17:30

Oh god, yes @Saltywalruss !!

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams · 19/12/2022 18:06

I saw "to n throw" the other day, which I think must be an overcorrection.

CaptainMyCaptain · 19/12/2022 18:16

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams · 19/12/2022 18:06

I saw "to n throw" the other day, which I think must be an overcorrection.

When teaching phonics in Reception 'th' always presents a problem as the children in my class rarely used that sound. I would teach them how to say it, where to put their tongue etc. but the brightest ones would over use it and replace every 'f' with 'th' spelling words like 'fish' as 'thish'. The person you quote sounds like one of these.

ginslinger · 20/12/2022 12:20

CaptainMyCaptain · 19/12/2022 18:16

When teaching phonics in Reception 'th' always presents a problem as the children in my class rarely used that sound. I would teach them how to say it, where to put their tongue etc. but the brightest ones would over use it and replace every 'f' with 'th' spelling words like 'fish' as 'thish'. The person you quote sounds like one of these.

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I was born sometime in the Dark Ages and was taught to read and spell with whole word recognition. I have no understanding of the teaching of phonics but I wonder to what extent this has contributed to some of the spelling issues we have today. My grandmother who left school at 15 could read and spell far better than many graduates today.
I'd be really interested in any views on this.

NoNameNowAgain · 20/12/2022 14:52

ginslinger · 20/12/2022 12:20

I was born sometime in the Dark Ages and was taught to read and spell with whole word recognition. I have no understanding of the teaching of phonics but I wonder to what extent this has contributed to some of the spelling issues we have today. My grandmother who left school at 15 could read and spell far better than many graduates today.
I'd be really interested in any views on this.

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When you say ‘this has contributed’ do you mean the teaching of phonics?
Teaching phonics isn’t a new thing although it seems to be done more rigorously (and with more jargon) than it was when I started school in 1972.
When was your grandmother born? I wonder if there has been a decline in spelling because there’s been a decline in reading since television took off, followed by smart phones and iPads.
When we do read now it is often unedited rantings and ramblings on social media (like this post) rather than the work of professional writers.

CaptainMyCaptain · 20/12/2022 16:03

I started school in 1959 and we learned through whole word flash cards. Even as a student teacher Phonics wasn't the be all and end all it is now. When it became a compulsory feature I found it benefitted most but not all the children in a class. My own grandson has dyslexia and only made progress when he stopped being made to sound everything out. As far as spelling standards dropping it may well be due to people reading less and having less of a memory bank of correctly spelled words.

As regards the f/th sounds, in the Year 1 Phonics Screening, reading a word and pronouncing /f/ rather than /th/ is not regarded as a fail if that is how the child usually speaks.

ginslinger · 20/12/2022 17:32

NoNameNowAgain · 20/12/2022 14:52

When you say ‘this has contributed’ do you mean the teaching of phonics?
Teaching phonics isn’t a new thing although it seems to be done more rigorously (and with more jargon) than it was when I started school in 1972.
When was your grandmother born? I wonder if there has been a decline in spelling because there’s been a decline in reading since television took off, followed by smart phones and iPads.
When we do read now it is often unedited rantings and ramblings on social media (like this post) rather than the work of professional writers.

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My Grandmother was born in 1899 and I started school in 1961. I have no memory of learning anything to do with phonics but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. I can't remember where I put my keys half the time

twatmas · 20/12/2022 17:52

Your get better soon xxx

(Was sent to me when poorly.)

Just stop.

AppleDumplingWithCustard · 20/12/2022 18:19

I loathe it when superfluous words are added. For example price point. Or train up. Surely something has a price or you simply train somebody?

Also portmanteau words. Coatigan, shacket. So ridiculous.

Fairislefandango · 20/12/2022 18:22

I loathe it when superfluous words are added. For example price point. Or train up.

Or fry off!

CaptainMyCaptain · 20/12/2022 20:53

Pan fry - as opposed to frying in a bucket? A bowl? A jug?

Exhausteddog · 21/12/2022 07:00

CaptainMyCaptain · 20/12/2022 20:53

Pan fry - as opposed to frying in a bucket? A bowl? A jug?

Isn't pan fry a distinction from just "fry" which could mean deep frying? (That isn't always in a pan)
But I also hate "fry off" and "plate up"

CaptainMyCaptain · 21/12/2022 07:32

Exhausteddog · 21/12/2022 07:00

Isn't pan fry a distinction from just "fry" which could mean deep frying? (That isn't always in a pan)
But I also hate "fry off" and "plate up"

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I suppose it is but in the past it was either deep fry or just fry.

amigababy · 21/12/2022 07:43

I've got some friends in Stirling who write youse in their emails. I like it because I can hear the email in their voice.

Fizbosshoes · 21/12/2022 08:18

One of my pet hates is the expression "freshly cut" sandwiches. It makes me think they were made 2 days ago, but they only cut them in half, just now!🤣

sanityisamyth · 21/12/2022 08:20

amigababy · 21/12/2022 07:43

I've got some friends in Stirling who write youse in their emails. I like it because I can hear the email in their voice.

I picked this one up when I was at stirling Uni for 4 years!

ErrolTheDragon · 21/12/2022 08:22

'Plate up' is fine if you work in a restaurant. Tbh it's more logical even domestically than the normal 'dish up'.

EtiennePalmiere · 14/10/2023 04:21

When people use "gorgeous" to describe the taste of food, I don't know why I think it's so awful. Does anyone know if it's considered correct usage and I'm just easily irritated?

ErrolTheDragon · 14/10/2023 09:36

EtiennePalmiere · 14/10/2023 04:21

When people use "gorgeous" to describe the taste of food, I don't know why I think it's so awful. Does anyone know if it's considered correct usage and I'm just easily irritated?

I suppose 'gorgeous' could be applied to the appearance of food but it's not the right word in relation to taste. I think its also a particularly bad choice because it may inadvertently evoke words such as 'gorging'.

www.etymonline.com/word/gorgeous