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To not understand why people write "carnt"?

171 replies

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 01/04/2022 23:50

And why it's not understood that it's not a word as such but a contraction of "cannot"? I see it such a lot.

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Thesefeetaremadeforwalking · 02/04/2022 10:18

Sum peeple just carnt spell.

Eye blame text-speek

AddictedToVinted · 02/04/2022 10:28

They sound the same to me (southern accent) unless I really make an effort to pronounce

I find that fascinating! So a placename like Broughton or Broughty Ferry, how would you pronounce them? We all roll our rrrrrrrrrs here Grin

PAFMO · 02/04/2022 10:29

[quote TwoLeftSocksWithHoles]@PAFMO

I am sat in the Drawing Room at the moment.

It is a silent 'R' rather like when someone nods knowingly but doesn't utter a sound.

It is in fact the BBC Pronunciation Unit not Department as I had stated.

The BBC's Pronunciation Unit. The BBC's Pronunciation Unit is part of Information and Archives. It consists of a specialist team that advises the whole of the BBC on the pronunciation of any word, name or phrase in any language.[/quote]
Non-rhotic /r/, then. Which, if it's silent, (as you say) then you haven't heard it. Unless you are, in fact, a bat.

I understand now about the BBC- the department that can be referenced when its employees need to say a foreign word and need to check the pronunciation. Have you seen many mistakes made by them in that remit?

(PS- "sitting" in the drawing room)

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 02/04/2022 10:30

I know someone who writes in the vernacular on Facebook which is quite funny as she does it deliberately.

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Chely · 02/04/2022 10:30

I like the Ime instead of I'm, always gives me a chuckle

LardyDee · 02/04/2022 10:31

Illiteracy

PAFMO · 02/04/2022 10:32

@ImJustMadAboutSaffron

Someone mentioned "discusting" upthread. I don't understand that either. I guess again it's linked to pronunciation but there's a world of difference between feeling disgust and having a discussion.

Around here some people sometimes say (and write) sempt instead of seemed. I'm not sure if that's vernacular or an old English thing.

Curious too isn't it that somewhere on Mumsnet there's a thread about words and phrases that annoy people and nobody would accuse anyone of being nasty or horrible had some of these posts appeared there?

Curiouser and curiouser....

"discustin(g)" is an in-joke. You must have missed the memo.

FWIW, I jump in on every spelling thread where the OP and subsequent posters start being smug and arrogant about other people's English.

You have managed to insult: young people, old people, people in the north, Americans, people with brain injuries and Jane Austen. At last count.

So do one with your faux innocence.

TheBearAndThePiano · 02/04/2022 10:34

I teach ks1. Never seen a child write 'carnt' but seen plenty of "I cunt...."

Always makes me giggle 😃

PAFMO · 02/04/2022 10:34

@ImJustMadAboutSaffron

I know someone who writes in the vernacular on Facebook which is quite funny as she does it deliberately.
I think most of us write in "the vernacular" tbf.

What with it being one's own native language.

Did you mean dialect or idiolect?

nearlyspringyay · 02/04/2022 10:34

@Zazdar

I see it alot to.
If you're going to comment on grammar you need to be correct.
Spidey66 · 02/04/2022 10:36

My husband would probably spell it like this. I suspect he has undiagnosed dyslexia. He's 60 so when he was at school it wasn't so well known. His reading is OK but writing and spelling are terrible. He's not stupid though. He has a fantastic memory and can hold his own in any debate about history, current affairs, politics etc. He just can't/carnt (!) write an essay on it!

Zazdar · 02/04/2022 10:36

If you're going to comment on grammar you need to be correct.

Whooooosh!

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 02/04/2022 10:37

Sempt instead of seemed, missen instead of myself, arr instead of yes. Dialect isn't it?

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Zazdar · 02/04/2022 10:37

And you have a comma missing.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 02/04/2022 10:38

@SpringHasSprungYay

Another one who missed a joke...

youvegottenminuteslynn · 02/04/2022 10:38

@Zazdar

And you have a comma missing.
Grin
flower277 · 02/04/2022 10:39

My husband is dyslexic and would write this. He spells as he hears things.

AchillesPoirot · 02/04/2022 10:39

@ImJustMadAboutSaffron

Sempt instead of seemed, missen instead of myself, arr instead of yes. Dialect isn't it?
I’m in Northern Ireland. People frequently write in the local dialect (I don’t know if dialect is the right word for it). Why is that an issue?
SpringHasSprungYay · 02/04/2022 10:40

[quote youvegottenminuteslynn]@SpringHasSprungYay

Another one who missed a joke...[/quote]
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 02/04/2022 10:43

[quote youvegottenminuteslynn]@SpringHasSprungYay

Another one who missed a joke...[/quote]
I once replied to someone on a post asking if he was a greengrocer. He'd written "Had a good night at the dog's and won thort all me birthday's had come at once." He replied and said "dont be stupid." No he didn't get the joke either.

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youvegottenminuteslynn · 02/04/2022 10:54

[quote youvegottenminuteslynn]@SpringHasSprungYay

Another one who missed a joke...[/quote]
Sorry that was to @nearlyspringyay I tagged you accidentally! Glad you noticed it was a joke too and didn't snark like other posters. Who now look rather silly correcting 'mistakes' people made on purpose.

PAFMO · 02/04/2022 10:56

@ImJustMadAboutSaffron

Hilarious. Truly. So, you have form for taking the piss out of people's English on social media?

bakewellbride · 02/04/2022 10:57

I'm sure they tried there best op.

HeArInGhandsgirl11 · 02/04/2022 11:01

YABU some people struggle with grammar and spellings. They are writing it how they hear it.

Marynotsocontrary · 02/04/2022 11:08

Where, were, wear are all homophones and are taught as such in schools.
That must depend on location, surely?

Curious too isn't it that somewhere on Mumsnet there's a thread about words and phrases that annoy people and nobody would accuse anyone of being nasty or horrible had some of these posts appeared there?
I often read the threads in Pedants' Corner and people regularly get told off for being mean!