To not understand why people write "carnt"?

[ImJustMadAboutSaffron]

And why it's not understood that it's not a word as such but a contraction of "cannot"? I see it such a lot.

I see it loads and I just assumed it was my local dialect (NE England), but maybe it is more widespread! I do think it's an unusual one to misspell though because presumably you'd have to override the autocorrect on your phone.

@ChiefWiggumsBoy

I see it a lot as well *@ImJustMadAboutSaffron*. Are you in the NW at all?

I see this and the use of 'where' instead of 'were' which is how it sounds in the local accent.

It's ridiculous though. It's can and cannot. I doubt Ian Beale spells the word The as Vu just because he pronounces it like that!

@Mintymilk some people are dyslexic and some people aren't. The three people in my home can spell the word can't without an R but might spell while as 'why'll'.

I'm in North Yorkshire so maybe it's a northern thing? Like you I've also seen were and where mixed up as well as been and being.

@ohfook

I see it loads and I just assumed it was my local dialect (NE England), but maybe it is more widespread! I do think it's an unusual one to misspell though because presumably you'd have to override the autocorrect on your phone.

I'd assumed the same but I'm in the NW!

Writing carnt doesn’t effect how people understand what has been written.

There where lots of things I didnt understand before I had a dyslexic child…

Becos thay carnt spel?

@Stillmousy

There where lots of things I didnt understand before I had a dyslexic child…

I know someone who had a brain injury and he writes been instead of being. I don't know whether he's dyslexic or has acquired dyslexia as a result of his injury. Would that be likely to happen?

Some people snoozed through school and never cracked a book open since they left.
It really shows.

Got a shudder even reading the title 😂 ‘the smorning’ is another cracker

I never seen it neither and I'm a proper grammar-like person too. Maybe a local thing that peoples write, ? I 'm am thinking.

@mathanxiety

Some people snoozed through school and never cracked a book open since they left. It really shows.

Here here!

(When I see that I'm tempted to ask "where where?" !!!)

I rarely see this but I think it's perfectly obvious why some people write "carnt" - they are sounding it out and writing it as they hear it; it makes sense phonetically to write carnt rather than can't. I don't understand why some people have to be so snobby about spelling.

@OldWivesTale

I rarely see this but I think it's perfectly obvious why some people write "carnt" - they are sounding it out and writing it as they hear it; it makes sense phonetically to write carnt rather than can't. I don't understand why some people have to be so snobby about spelling.

Because it's wrong?

I don’t know OP.
But I do know that my super-bright DS can’t spell “were”. He puts “where” every time.
I just looked through some texts from him. They include “lone” (=loan) and “tearable” (=terrible). He’s had loads of interventions but he just carnt spell.

So what if it's wrong? Maybe they didn't go to school much; maybe they are dyslexic and struggle with spelling; maybe they just can't be arsed. We can still understand what they mean perfectly well.

@OldWivesTale

So what if it's wrong? Maybe they didn't go to school much; maybe they are dyslexic and struggle with spelling; maybe they just can't be arsed. We can still understand what they mean perfectly well.

Maybe so on Facebook. What about in a job application or work correspondence?

@Stillmousy

I don’t know OP. But I do know that my super-bright DS can’t spell “were”. He puts “where” every time. I just looked through some texts from him. They include “lone” (=loan) and “tearable” (=terrible). He’s had loads of interventions but he just carnt spell.

Most of those are homophones which are regularly confused. Were and where don't sound the same. Maybe in other parts of the country they do though?

Usually because they can’t spell it, so they sound it out.
They think the word ‘car’ makes the sound ‘cah’*, so extrapolate that out to ‘car- nt’.

*This only works if you have a non-rhotic accent, so you don’t see it in Scottish people as often, for example.

It’s a common error in dyslexic people.

I've seen it sometimes. I'm afraid it sets my teeth on edge.

@ImJustMadAboutSaffron

Brain injuries can cause dyslexia, yes.

@mathanxiety

Some people snoozed through school and never cracked a book open since they left. It really shows.

And some tried very very hard at school, have a fantastic intellect but can’t spell to save their lives. Some have never had the opportunity to access a decent education.

This belongs in Pendants' Corner, in any other area of Mumsnet, it comes across as nasty, judgemental and completely lacking in awareness of learning disabilities and/or lack of educational opportunities.

You don’t understand why?!

It’s clearly not an autocorrect error, so obviously it’s because they don’t have A1 literacy skills.

I understand that certain errors are grating to read, but generally people can’t help their level of educational ability, or attainment, or any specific learning difficulties they have, such as dyslexia. So let’s not pretend we don’t understand “why”. It doesn’t hurt to be sympathetic.

@Ikeatears

This belongs in Pendants' Corner, in any other area of Mumsnet, it comes across as nasty, judgemental and completely lacking in awareness of learning disabilities and/or lack of educational opportunities.

Isn't that a sweeping generalisation? Not just about the OP and the reason for it, but about anything that questions anything, but about everyone who makes spelling mistakes? Not everyone who can't spell has learning disabilities or lack of educational opportunities, surely?

It's usually the same kind of words that are seen spelled incorrectly - can't/carnt, would have/would of, been/being - they are all things that sound similar or are written phonetically.

I am asking why that is. Not having a pop at anyone, being nasty, judgemental or lacking in awareness. For that matter, though, if someone does lack awareness, isn't this the place to come for that awareness?

Labelling everyone nasty or judgemental is an old chestnut.

Thanks for telling me where to post, though. I was not even aware of Pedant's Corner (I guess it's not about necklaces?). Maybe I'm not pedantic enough to know about it!

Here here!

(When I see that I'm tempted to ask "where where?" !!!)

Since you want a dickish thread, sneering about spelling, OP, I will allow myself to point out that the phrase is “Hear hear”.

Why did you get that wrong?